Hot Toys DX09 - BATMAN - Batman (Michael Keaton) - Specs & Pics

[jye4ever]

This very well may be what I do too though I've waited like all you guys for a company to do a definitive figure of 89 forever and now that it's here I'm damn excited. Not to mention theres all kinds of great poses to be made.

I look upon crow's cape as the best the cape can look aesthetically.

They all probably look like that out of the box.

It's all down hill from there.

 

[TheFiend]

I look upon crow's cape as the best the cape can look aesthetically.

They all probably look like that out of the box.

It's all down hill from there.

Looks like I'll be investing in a 2nd cape

 

[jye4ever]

Looks like I'll be investing in a 2nd cape

Me too

 

[jye4ever]

[ame]https://youtu.be/AO9wHdjFS7o[/ame]

 

[Maglor]

I can buy his claims wanting to go back and make a better Batman film. Other than Batman and Robin, his filmography isn't necessarily horrible. He's got quite a few "dark" and un-B&R like films in there.

I'm not defending the guy because hell, he was the director making the choices, but I don't think it's all his fault and I don't think the whole thing is that big of a deal. I don't think he's lying. Most of the stuff he stated like the darker tones, Scarecrow and the year one theme was brought to the table way before 2003 or whenever Nolan came on board anyway.

This whole Batman film franchise has been an evolutionary thing. In the 80s it was in development hell until the late 80s when Burton, Furst and Co. came in. When '89 became a huge success and a phenomenon, then the franchise began and naturally they were going to make a sequel. Then Returns comes out, it's darker and while it's a success, it offends people. WB sees this, drops Burton (which was sort of unnecessary, Returns made back all of it's budget and then some) and want to take Batman in a whole new direction. They wanted family friendly and something more marketable, and that's what they got.

Then you get to Schumacher. They lighten up, take out anything "dark" by cutting it out of Batman Forever. Forever becomes a success so they push the camp and corniness even further and you get Batman and Robin, pretty much the exact opposite of what came before it. It fails big time so even if Schumacher wanted a second chance, he wasn't going to get one.

Now since lightening it up and make it goofy didn't seem to work and resulted in failure, we now have what we're seeing today with the current films with a formula that's working.




But he stated it before Batman Begins as well? Like I said, this was the late 90s where he stated this, well before TDK was even in existence. Schumacher mentions it in interviews and commentaries as well for the DVD anthology boxed set in 2005. A set with interviews that took place before Batman Begins was even considered a success.

- Batman and Robin comes out

- It's a complete POS

- Batman Triumphant (Scarecrow villain) was planned and is put on hold then scrapped due to B&Rs poor performance

- Thought process is to make a darker Batman film, opposite of Batman and Robin by WB

- Schumacher wants to make a Batman Year One film, a second chance so to speak. WB drops him.

- Batman 5 is put on a hiatus (potentially Batman Year One and/or Batman Beyond and/or Batman/Superman)

- Script Treatments

- Darren Aronofsky Batman Year One in development/green lit

- Cancelled

- New 2003 Batman project with David Goyer and Christopher Nolan at the helm

- Batman 5/Batman: Intimidation Game/ Batman Begins

You're sort of missing my point and making it at the same time. Hindsight is 20/20. Of course he said he wanted to make a better and serious Batman film...because he made a mediocre Batman film and followed it up with a laughably terrible one, received by critics and fans with vitriol and apparently a few death threats. Also your pointing out that he said he wanted to make a darker Batman movie after Batman and Robin doesn't mean that later saying that he really wanted to make a serious movie instead of Batman and Robin, and then saying that again after The Dark Knight came out isn't a huge crock of ____.

Well maybe he's full of it, but we don't know that. We'll just have to take his word for it or don't. Maybe he genuinely wanted to make a better Batman film for fans? Maybe he was just saying it because he ____ed up? Who knows? Who cares? I'm not about to analyze some director whom I don't particularly care for.

The Mayor is suggesting that he only stated that he wanted to do a darker Batman film, along the lines of Year One because of Batman Begins and I was simply pointing out that that's not true. He stated things before Begins' conception.

What Schumacher did, or didn't do really never offended me. He made a crappy film (while I don't love Batman Forever, I don't hate or despise it), he defiantly defended it, sure but then eventually took the blame and apologized. What more do people want from him and what more should we analyze? He messed up, the writer messed up and most importantly, Warner Bros. messed up. It's an old discussion, almost as old as the "which is better, Burton Batman films or Nolan Batman films". At the end of the day, to get to Batman '89, you needed to have years of struggle to get it on film. To get to Batman Returns, you needed a ground breaking success. Batman Forever came to be because of conservative folks who were offended by Returns' darkness. Batman and Robin happened because the makers got too zealous with Forever. Finally, to get to Batman Begins, Batman and Robin had to fail. It took 7 years for it to happen, but now, in 2012, does it really matter? No.

There are 6 Batman films, soon to be 7. Some are great, some are not. There's something for everyone. That's all.

Lots of words.

How much did you pay for an extra cape if you dont mind me asking just in case I feel the need to nab one. What mod do you have in mind for the first one?

$54.99 I think. I'd imagine that will come down in price as more get parted out.

 

[vodoun]

Then Returns comes out, it's darker and while it's a success, it offends people. WB sees this, drops Burton (which was sort of unnecessary, Returns made back all of it's budget and then some) and want to take Batman in a whole new direction. They wanted family friendly and something more marketable, and that's what they got.

Seriously... how?

 

[Maglor]

 

[klocket]

I was messing with this figure a lot yesterday... and i still don't like the construction of the cape.

I think the wire is a good idea, but the execution of it in the cape is not very well thought out.

I think they should have put wire vertically as well as horizontally, or maybe even like a thin sculpture mesh throughout the entire cape.

I am thinking of constructing my own 1:6 version using the same technique as the original and the full size one i have for my Batsuit (don't judge me! )...

Yes, i know it might not lay right as it stands but i plan to add wire to it as well.

Aside from the cape, the figure is still astounding!

And on that note another pic:

M.

 

[TheFiend]

$54.99 I think. I'd imagine that will come down in price as more get parted out.

$55? I guess that's not too horrifying

 

[jye4ever]

Great pics Mag

which do you use again, T3i, T2i or T2?

 

[vito81]

Well, at least PAYPAL has refunded my money from hottoysonlinestore, where I tried to buy my Batman...

 

[TheMayor]

The Mayor is suggesting that he only stated that he wanted to do a darker Batman film, along the lines of Year One because of Batman Begins and I was simply pointing out that that's not true. He stated things before Begins' conception.

Schumacher has shown himself to be dishonest in the past. Even on the BandR dvd documentary he says they tried to contact Val for the part of Batman, then Val says on the dvd he never got an offer...someone is lieing...I don't think Val is.

 

[thundergod]

Seriously... how?

If you check out the "extras" on the "Batman Returns" 2-Disc set , there's an amusing interview where Tim Burton describes a conversation with a Warners Exec/producer who is telling him what a great job he did on the movie , but how it would be great if he moved on and made lots more "different " movies ( i.e NOT Batman movies !)
It's also well known that McDonalds dropped their planned promotions when they saw an early cut of the movie and were suitably horrified !

 

[Maglor]

Great pics Mag

which do you use again, T3i, T2i or T2?

Plane ol' T3

 

[jye4ever]

Plane ol' T3

What does the i do

 

[Maglor]

1) The T3i is 18MP. The T3 is just 12.

2) The T3i can take pictures faster - meaning a burst of pictures that you might want to take at a sporting event.

3) The T3i has a bigger screen that swings out and can be articulated for viewing at weird angles.



The screen would be the only draw for me, and it doesn't justify the price difference (for me).

 

[guyver1]

Added some more weathering to the symbol. Really impressed with the sculpting that HT's did with this. Maglor, you're pics are amazing! Fantastic photography skills! I'm working on getting a new camera, hopefully within a week or so...oh well, this is the best I can do for now.

https://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4256535#post4256535

 

[TheFiend]

Well, at least PAYPAL has refunded my money from hottoysonlinestore, where I tried to buy my Batman...

Yeah I read that whole thread! Man, that was some crazy _____e! Im glad you got your money back and I hope the people responsible get what they deserve.

Anyhoo back to Batman.

How is the PERS working out with this one. Feel nice and sturdy? No breakage?

 

[guyver1]

Yeah I read that whole thread! Man, that was some crazy _____e! Im glad you got your money back and I hope the people responsible get what they deserve.

Anyhoo back to Batman.

How is the PERS working out with this one. Feel nice and sturdy? No breakage?

The PERS is solid, a lot more durable and flexible than the Indiana Jones HS and I liked the PERS on the indy just fine. So far the worst is ironically the DX01 Ledger Joker, but then again that was the first attempt at PERS, glad that HTs fixed it.

 

[Maglor]

Can someone explain how the batarang works?

I mean, obviously he holds it in his hand, but what do you do with the rope/ring?