Hot Toys - DX13 - T2: T-800 (Battle-Damaged Version) 1/6-scale Collectible Figure

[kennykillek]

How are the sculpts getting worse? These two headsculpts are some of the best ive seen from HT.

Maybe headsculpt isn't the right word, exactly, as the detail is clearly getting better with time... maybe I mean likenesses. The likenesses are definitely getting worse. I don't think the DX-10 looks anywhere near as good as the MMS of years ago. Additionally, the new Tony Stark headsculpt, while more detailed than the Mark IV Tony Stark, doesn't really look as much like Robert Downey Jr. It's dissapointing.

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

Maybe headsculpt isn't the right word, exactly, as the detail is clearly getting better with time... maybe I mean likenesses. The likenesses are definitely getting worse. I don't think the DX-10 looks anywhere near as good as the MMS of years ago. Additionally, the new Tony Stark headsculpt, while more detailed than the Mark IV Tony Stark, doesn't really look as much like Robert Downey Jr. It's dissapointing.

I would disagree on both counts, but that's why these are opinions, and not facts.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Curious what you guys think, from a business point of view, was it smart for them to announce this DX13, right as the DX10 is being shipped out? I can see a lot of peeps canceling or not buying the DX10 in place of this. I was a few days from ordering the DX10. When I saw this, i decided to wait.

It was, people us who really want the Fatigues Naked Snake think they won't put that up for order as the Sneaking Suit is ready to ship and it'd take away sales, then this came along and debunked that idea

 

[a-dev]

Okay, discounting the MM, it's $535 over the course of one. That's the worst part, easily. Although I do think this DX has a much, much better value than the last figure, I am dissapointed that Hot Toys thinks this is okay. Especially when considering how expensive these guys have gotten lately, and how Enterbay's figures, which are made with much, much more plastic, are only about 100-200 dollars more.

Well its certainly true these mofos are getting more and more expensive. All it means for me though is cutting out other HT figures. I'm still gonna buy the hell out of these because Terminator has always been my biggest priority toywise.

Maybe headsculpt isn't the right word, exactly, as the detail is clearly getting better with time... maybe I mean likenesses. The likenesses are definitely getting worse. I don't think the DX-10 looks anywhere near as good as the MMS of years ago. Additionally, the new Tony Stark headsculpt, while more detailed than the Mark IV Tony Stark, doesn't really look as much like Robert Downey Jr. It's dissapointing.

I can't agree with the part in bold...at all. Arnie never had a squashed, hagard toadface as MMS117 has seemed to convince people of. That sculpt was great in individual details and features taken in isolation but frankly, bizarre looking as a whole. Butters is about to log on and tell me to STFU.

 

[carbo-fation]

Can't believe I missed this. It looks incredible. One of HT's best releases yet.

 

[kennykillek]

I would disagree on both counts, but that's why these are opinions, and not facts.

Actually, I'm going to have to agree with you guys on the Terminator 2 thing. I guess I'm just blinded by how impressed I was when I saw it years ago. On reflection, the newer one really is better. I apologize.

 

[snoop101]

Maybe headsculpt isn't the right word, exactly, as the detail is clearly getting better with time... maybe I mean likenesses. The likenesses are definitely getting worse. I don't think the DX-10 looks anywhere near as good as the MMS of years ago. Additionally, the new Tony Stark headsculpt, while more detailed than the Mark IV Tony Stark, doesn't really look as much like Robert Downey Jr. It's dissapointing.

I don't see how anyone can think that this....

Isn't an improvement from this...

(those are not my pics btw)

 

[Rzeznikk]

Curious what you guys think, from a business point of view, was it smart for them to announce this DX13, right as the DX10 is being shipped out? I can see a lot of peeps canceling or not buying the DX10 in place of this. I was a few days from ordering the DX10. When I saw this, i decided to wait.

My cousin was just about ready to pull the trigger on the DX10. He was just waiting for Paypal funds to clear his bank, then BAM this DX13 shows up. Cousin is now getting the DX13 instead.

Im sure there are other issues likely the same. I think HT kinda shot themselves in the foot on some early sales for the DX10 because of this. Im sure the DX10 will still sell out because it seems theres still a lot of people that like or prefer the clean look. And its cheaper.

 

[Rotfish]

I can't agree with the part in bold...at all. Arnie never had a squashed, hagard toadface as MMS117 has seemed to convince people of. That sculpt was great in individual details and features taken in isolation but frankly, bizarre looking as a whole. Butters is about to log on and tell me to STFU.

Great explanation, actually. I feel like they kind of dropped the ball on those individual details this time around. Dutch and the T1 Termie seemed more or less fine, so I'm curious as to how they'll handle the upcoming 1/4 versions of those.

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

Actually, I'm going to have to agree with you guys on the Terminator 2 thing. I guess I'm just blinded by how impressed I was when I saw it years ago. On reflection, the newer one really is better. I apologize.

No need to apologize for having an opinion, just don't crap on others for not having the same one.

 

[dominishin]

People who think the 117 Arnold sculpt has a better likeness simply:

1. Don't have the DX10
2. Ignored all of the DX10's good pics
3. Got too used to 117 and have a very warped idea of what Arnold looks like now
4. Crazy blind mofo!

117 only looks good at an angle... head-on is rough.

 

[a-dev]

People who think the 117 Arnold sculpt has a better likeness simply:

1. Don't have the DX10
2. Ignored all of the DX10's good pics
3. Got too used to 117 and have a very warped idea of what Arnold looks like now
4. Crazy blind mofo!

117 only looks good at an angle... head-on is rough.

Pretty much have to agree. Put on the film and hold up the MMS117 head....its off and always was. Great realism and it certainly resembled Arnie but theres no doubt in my mind that DX10 improved the likeness, even if it also didn't manage perfection - and it provided a far preferable new base for the BD sculpts.

 

[robbiethepainter]

Curious what you guys think, from a business point of view, was it smart for them to announce this DX13, right as the DX10 is being shipped out? I can see a lot of peeps canceling or not buying the DX10 in place of this. I was a few days from ordering the DX10. When I saw this, i decided to wait.

The only people getting hurt on this would be the retailers. Doesn't hurt HT because they have already produced the number of figures to fill the orders places by retailers. HT has already been paid. Now its up to the retailers to get these sold. One of the reasons for the required deposits, to help secure the preorders they are banking on.

 

[Wake]

Pretty much have to agree. Put on the film and hold up the MMS117 head....its off and always was. Great realism and it certainly resembled Arnie but theres no doubt in my mind that DX10 improved the likeness, even if it also didn't manage perfection - and it provided a far preferable new base for the BD sculpts.

 

[MagnumOpus]

Pictures don't prove anything about DX10's improvement!

 

[Mr. EcKo]

The MMS version has weird eyes , someone shop the DX eyes on it and look.

That;s what throws it off IMO . the dx is a far superior sculpt

 

[Voorhees27]

Right now, EB's will have to come in at $450 at most to sway me, even if it's better looking, that's about the cutoff for any one thing right now, and man is this set tempting, I could finally do the classic stare down shot looking for the T-1000, grenade launcher aimed, pistol in hand. There's no denying the fun I could have with this set, far more versatile than EB, but I'm trying to be smart with my money and think about which I'd like to look at more on the shelf when I'm done with my photos. It's not an easy decision and there's a number of factors to weight for me, but it's so nice to have options instead of wishes finally. How many DX figures after 02 did we hope were going to be this?

Yup and here we are. Personally, based on your position, i'd go with the EB piece. One beautiful piece is all one needs to represent their favorite films. Everything else is excess. (imo)

I apologize, I wasn't trying to insult your intelligence, just saying that you're willing to overlook a lot of problems that I think should really be acknowledged.

Nobody is forced to buy each and every attempt HT's has made. In fact, up til this point, most people were extremely satisfied with each release. Even though HT's half assed each release, us T2 fans were very happy. These new releases are just bonus imo.

The only people getting hurt on this would be the retailers. Doesn't hurt HT because they have already produced the number of figures to fill the orders places by retailers. HT has already been paid. Now its up to the retailers to get these sold. One of the reasons for the required deposits, to help secure the preorders they are banking on.

100% correct. Sideshow has taken months to well over a year (or more) to sell out of a single HT's release.

 

[EndoSickness]

Just PO'ed this on my regular German shop.
Can't wait...

 

[BadMuthaDude]

Pretty much have to agree. Put on the film and hold up the MMS117 head....its off and always was. Great realism and it certainly resembled Arnie but theres no doubt in my mind that DX10 improved the likeness, even if it also didn't manage perfection - and it provided a far preferable new base for the BD sculpts.

Yes, and as I suspected, people are just refusing to like the DX10, maybe because they spent money on upgrading the MMS or because they didn't like the fact that this character was being redone. Whatever the reason, the lack of objectivity toward the DX10 has become very apparent now that the same sculpt that is a "terrible likeness" is now being praised on the DX13.

I'm cool with people preferring the MMS, but don't say the DX10 is terrible when pics show it clearly isn't, especially if your going to praise this sculpt's likeness when it is the DX10 before production with battle damage added.

 

[Furyan]

OMG I think I need this. How badass. Someone please tell me we are getting a new 1/6 Endo to go with him.