Hot Toys Giger Alien

[Batty]

The skull and color looks a lot better.

 

[draekus]

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What do you guys think of this?

Good improvements IMO. Send it to HT. Hopefully they haven't begun tooling yet and can still make changes.

 

[abake]

It amazes me that they can do so well on Preds, but seem to refuse to pull off accurate Aliens of any movie. There's always some dumb stuff they do differently than the actual design. I can't believe they waited this long to be this wrong.



Hands: Failed. What do they have against the second thumb looking right? They did it right on the AVP Aliens, and screwed it up slightly on the Dog, but this is just ridiculously off. It's not a fifth finger; it's a second thumb.

Skull: Failed. Less is more and more is crap. They put too much detail into the skull and made it wrong. Do they honestly think they are improving on something when they do this crap?

Dorsal Pipes: Could be better. The top center one looks totally wrong though. The others on the Aliens Warrior were pretty much the only accurate things to that piece even though they were too short.

Mouth: Could be way better, but I'm giving that some credit just because it's rubber over articulated frame.

Body: Very good with two exceptions.
-First, the shoulders should have a more pronounced ribbed tubing on them. Hot Toys kinda of rolled that under and made it less visible.
-Second, what is with the buff looking calves? They should be straighter like the forearms.

Feet: Excellent!

Tail: Excellent!

Head & dome shape and sculpt: Excellent!

First Alien to come with a base: 'Bout damn time!

If they convert this into an Aliens Warrior at some point, count me in, but I don't need this figure unless they do some major work on it before release. So far Preds and Aliens have never gotten reworked before final release, so I doubt it. Money saved.

NECA wins!

Been looking closely at the new pics, and there's a lot of stuff that is very wrong with this alien.

Building on SS's list, here's a few more little details:
Arms: there's some extra ribbing going on the inside of the forearm. Again, are they thinking they are improving on Giger's design?

Neck: it looks wrong, too wide and some of the detailing looks invented.

Hips: again, the seems to be extra tubes/ribbing that weren't there (on second thought, maybe it's not wrong, would have to get a better view)

Legs: fantastically wrong! Again there's ribbing on the inside of the calves, and as SS pointed out, what's with the muscle? Also, the three "bars" on the back of the leg (towards the ankle) look to be the wrong shape.

Feet: can't see much, but it seems they're missing the oxen jaws.

So, overall, taking into account Silent Surfer's list it's a gigantic FAIL in my not-so-humble opinion.
Seriously, it's like they don't want to compete against NECA and Medicom with an accurate representation. Which to me looks like a big F-U to the Alien fans.
It's not a matter of fixing the mouth and skull, it's a matter of re-sculpting the whole damn thing if they want to give us an accurate figure (which they obviously don't care about).

I really wonder, did anybody ever go up to Hot Toys or their president or whoever makes the decisions about the aliens and tell them "hey guys, you know what, the designs made by a surreal artist from Switzerland and brought to film by a genius movie maker aren't really that hot, so why don't you just go ahead and make them better? Oh, and the stuff made by that dude from the states who designed and brought to life amazing creatures in countless films, the stuff he made for one of the best sequels EVER and overseen by one of the great directors, disregard that as well, you know, just give it your twist and make it cooler *wink wink*, you guys RULE!".
Who the ^^^^ told them that?

As far as I can remember, nobody has ever gone up to any toy company asking them to re-invent these things. But we've always been very vocal about having accurate things.

Yeah, Hot Toys cares a lot...
I hope you mediocre bastards come in and read this thread.

Anyway, rant over. They have the reference pics, the mails, the postings on their facebook page and this thread (among many others discussing accuracy), if they care about it, they can do something about it.
Time to move on.

As an imaginary Nostromo alien it's a really nice figure, but I do worry about posing it with the way it's built. It looks like the hips will have even less poseability than the Medicom version.
The color looks really nice, much much better than the Aliens version. The rest of their aliens I've always been fine with the paint apps.

 

[Coorectghosting]

If this were made by Sideshow anyone pointing out these inaccuracies would be immediately attacked and insulted.

 

[abake]

You should've seen the Batman threads in their heyday...

 

[FACEBOX]

This is the reason why I also collect Sideshow Dioramas.
IMO:
Sideshow aliens= accuracy
Hot Toys aliens= posability

It really does suck that they strive so hard to get their Predators as accutate as possible, and basically say "F-it" when it comes to the aliens.

My biggest gripes
AVP: The dome is all wrong
AVP-R: head is too thin and has rehashed aliens feet.
AVP-R: Predalien has a very ugly paint app.
ALIENS: Totally inaccurate and falls apart before it leaves China
ALIEN 3: the mouth is ...fugly.

ALIEN: damnit Hot Toys!
I think I prefer the look of the McF over this.
Sure the alien looks "cool" , but why the loyalty to Predators, and the aliens get the shaft?
Are you Pred Fanboys? I doubt it because Terminator also gets better treatment that aliens.

Hhhh..their treatment of the Aliens is disappointing.

 

[Sabres21768]

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What do you guys think of this?

Now THAT is fookin' awesome!

Come on Hot Toys...take the f*k'n hint.

 

[CelticPredator]

I'd also fix the jaw tendons.....but other wise, thats what I want.

 

[kazukijun]

This is the reason why I also collect Sideshow Dioramas.
IMO:
Sideshow aliens= accuracy
Hot Toys aliens= posability

It really does suck that they strive so hard to get their Predators as accutate as possible, and basically say "F-it" when it comes to the aliens.

My biggest gripes
AVP: The dome is all wrong
AVP-R: head is too thin and has rehashed aliens feet.
AVP-R: Predalien has a very ugly paint app.
ALIENS: Totally inaccurate and falls apart before it leaves China
ALIEN 3: the mouth is ...fugly.

ALIEN: damnit Hot Toys!
I think I prefer the look of the McF over this.
Sure the alien looks "cool" , but why the loyalty to Predators, and the aliens get the shaft?
Are you Pred Fanboys? I doubt it because Terminator also gets better treatment that aliens.

Hhhh..their treatment of the Aliens is disappointing.

I agree totally.
Accuracy is one of the reasons why I never got any HT Aliens figs. They just can't seem to do it right.

The other being the model kit concept, why the hell should I pay so much just to assemble a figure by myself.

 

[plasmid303]

The other being the model kit concept, why the hell should I pay so much just to assemble a figure by myself.

I guess you don't own any of the (non p1) Predators?

The assembly on the aliens wasn't so bad. Certainly easier than the Preds. Do you remember the Robocop figure? That was a nightmare. I thought I was going to break the damn thing.

The Giger alien will require assembly, no doubt.

 

[kazukijun]

I guess you don't own any of the (non p1) Predators?

The assembly on the aliens wasn't so bad. Certainly easier than the Preds. Do you remember the Robocop figure? That was a nightmare. I thought I was going to break the damn thing.

The Giger alien will require assembly, no doubt.

Your right, I avoided all the Preds due to the stupid assembly. Sometimes it's the way they engineer the sockets or how the parts are supposed to fit in.

 

[Devil_666]

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Full body shot. You can't really see it, but I added the 6th finger/thumb. Thoughts?

 

[kazukijun]

much better, but his fingers needs to be more spread out & straight.

 

[Devil_666]

I think those are the relaxed hands!? I guess.

 

[Sabres21768]

That's it!

If HT made that fig...I'd buy more than one.

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Full body shot. You can't really see it, but I added the 6th finger/thumb. Thoughts?

 

[Sachiel]

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What do you guys think of this?

Now that's it!

Better than ol' doppie.

 

[a-dev]

With the announcement of HT marvel licenses and The Matrix my wallet is going to keep taking a pounding. I know this is blasphemy to many here but, if HT leave the Giger Alien as is and I consequently feel no need to buy it, this will be no bad thing.

 

[shockwave]

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Full body shot. You can't really see it, but I added the 6th finger/thumb. Thoughts?

Excellent re-do Devil_666 . Now I will be happy w/this figure. Sooo should we start posting our recommendations to HT? And Devil_666 will you or can one of us post your revised pics please to HT? Thanks.

 

[DSD]

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What do you guys think of this?

That's awesome.

Edit: Devil666, would you care to do another pic in which the skull eyes aren't visible at all?

 

[Crimsonbob]

Awesome stuff Devil_666

They definitely need to put in the clear teeth, i hate the painted silver ones on HT's earlier alien figs. I also think they should fog over the eye/nose part of the skull more (i personally prefer it that way) but the back part being more visable is cool.