Hot Toys MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

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Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

I remember a time when there were plenty of HT fanboys crapping on Enterbay because, well, HT.

At least we had some sort of choice back then. Enjoy your HT Marvel dolls now.
 
Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

Well, at least then Hot Toys would hand their unused licenses to companies that would actually use them :lol

Sometime ago I thought that maybe HT bought some licenses without even planning to make figures from them, just so other companies can't touch these licenses. Like spending money so the competition can't make money. Sounds crazy, I know, but their announcing Batman Returns in 1/4 as well as Terminator Police Shootout on the same scale (I think Predator too?) but never actually making them made me think that. Pretty convenient timing too given that Enterbay 1/4 scale figures were getting good feedback from collectors then.

Just a crazy theory. So all you HT experts-slash-pro bono apologists need not jump on me.
 
Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

My 2nd bats flew in today with sideshow 3po so had bring out r2 for 3po.



 
Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

Sometime ago I thought that maybe HT bought some licenses without even planning to make figures from them, just so other companies can't touch these licenses. Like spending money so the competition can't make money. Sounds crazy, I know, but their announcing Batman Returns in 1/4 as well as Terminator Police Shootout on the same scale (I think Predator too?) but never actually making them made me think that. Pretty convenient timing too given that Enterbay 1/4 scale figures were getting good feedback from collectors then.

Just a crazy theory. So all you HT experts-slash-pro bono apologists need not jump on me.

It's a pretty straight forward business policy. Companies do it all the time. You don't get to be the leading company in anything by playing nice. And I'm sure HTs relationship with Disney is getting better and better. I wish Enterbay or Blitzway would get the 1/6 license from DC. Don't get me wrong, I love what Hot Toys have done and are doing, but I think Blitzway could really nail this franchise.
I feel that Hot Toys wants to do this, but Marvel and Star wars are just keeping them too busy. The Wonder Woman seems rushed and half-assed. Maybe they have more time now, with Civil War out of the way, but then there's Rogue 1 and Doctor Strange. They just keep coming.
 
Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

My 2nd bats flew in today with sideshow 3po so had bring out r2 for 3po.




A bit of german voice dubbing trivia: Michael Keaton's voice actor, Joachim Tennstedt, also provided the voice for C-3PO. Face to face here, literally.
 
Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

Just in case anyone is on the waitlist holding their breath for the single Batman...

I jumped on the waitlist on 4/15. I received an email on 5/10 that my waitlist reservation would convert to an order on 5/12. On 5/12 it officially became an order.

If you ordered around then you might get lucky like I did. :yess:
 
Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

These are still readily available on BBTS.
 
Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

Just in case anyone is on the waitlist holding their breath for the single Batman...

I jumped on the waitlist on 4/15. I received an email on 5/10 that my waitlist reservation would convert to an order on 5/12. On 5/12 it officially became an order.

If you ordered around then you might get lucky like I did. :yess:

Yep, me to. Converted last week and I got him yesterday.
 
Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

Old school Batman v Superman :)

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Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

It's a pretty straight forward business policy. Companies do it all the time. You don't get to be the leading company in anything by playing nice. And I'm sure HTs relationship with Disney is getting better and better. I wish Enterbay or Blitzway would get the 1/6 license from DC. Don't get me wrong, I love what Hot Toys have done and are doing, but I think Blitzway could really nail this franchise.
I feel that Hot Toys wants to do this, but Marvel and Star wars are just keeping them too busy. The Wonder Woman seems rushed and half-assed. Maybe they have more time now, with Civil War out of the way, but then there's Rogue 1 and Doctor Strange. They just keep coming.

What about the comics licence? Hot Toys is focused on the movies so maybe some other company can do characters from classic comic books.
 
Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

Does anyone think HT will make a Penguin and Catwoman from BR too?
 
Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

Does your Batman returns have right arm closer to the body? Mine one hand is close one is not that close and it looks weird...
 
Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

Why did they stop making the joystick PERS?
 
Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

Why did they stop making the joystick PERS?
Because it was so fragile and prone to breaking. This way is so much better
 
Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

I'm not sure it is really. It can be difficult getting the eyes aligned properly.
 
Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

Because it was so fragile and prone to breaking. This way is so much better

I never had any of them break. Even the DX01.


I wish the cape had more material so you could create more wrinkles in below the cowl. Gorgeous figure though. Got Bruce in the pose as he first appears at the ball. Right hand in the pocket.
 
Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

I've owned/own all the DX figures except for Michael Jackson, Bruce Lee, Indiana Jones, Captain Jack Sparrow and Luke. None of the PERS have broken on my Batmen, Jokers or Terminators. Then again, I'm the type of person that moves them once out of the box to check and make sure the eyes aren't broken, then never touch them again. I know damn well that if I move the eyes on one of my Batman or Joker figures, now, something would happen. I'm sure of it. I'd rather they be neutral then broken. I'm not going to take my chances.

With this Returns one, I love that they're not parallel. I can move them any time I want without consequence. If I want to make him cross eyed for ****s and giggles, I can do that. There's more freedom with it and less worry. Does it take a little longer to get them perfect? Sure, but I'll take that over some mechanism breaking or being slightly cross eyed.

I actually got another Batman off of ebay for a pretty great price (I want to do something cool with it). This one was a dud though, not perfect like my other ones. The sole/socket of the boot was shattered and slipped out from under the boot, the belt was unpainted in parts, gauntlet blade was missing, and the left leg at around the knee is just hanging there. My seller is great and going to contact Sideshow, so it shouldn't be a problem.

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If I get a replacement, I'll take pics of what the body looks like underneath before I break it/scrap them. There's a substantial amount of fat suit, padding, foam and fabric underneath the suit. I was actually really surprised. Without all that bulk, I bet it would pose better. No idea why they thought it was a good idea to pad out the stomach, hips, shoulders and thighs. He should really be thinner and more lythe.

I mean, it's pretty nuts how intricate the tailoring is underneath the rubber suit. They have a black fabric leotard for the arms and legs. This crazy detailed white fat suit with stitched padding that replicates the squared off pectoral muscles for the armor (that's probably why that one person had a dent from Hong Kong, it wasn't stitched properly) and so many sections of padding and thread work. It makes me wonder why Hot Toys has their workers go through all that trouble WITH a highly articulated True Type body, when they don't even do the suit right and insist on making it a static, one piece rubber onsie. There's so much potential here for the perfect Batman. Had they put in all that effort into a wet suit with armor overlays like I've been saying from the beginning, it would be the same amount of work/cost and be accurate and more articulated.
 
Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

Anyone have any advice on how to tighten the hips on the Bruce body? The legs have good resistance going outward, but going forward and back is noticeably looser.
 
Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

Just grabbed one of these for under $200 :rotfl
 
Re: Hot Toys – MMS 293 & 294 Batman Returns: Batman and Bruce Wayne (Keaton) Set

I wonder what magnets would be like on the inside of the tips with added heavier magnets to give it some weight...
 
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