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Amazing....that poor guy...he probably get death threats also from TLJ haters.....
People , its a movie.....I mean why not "Mark Hamill is an *******"? I have said this before, Hamill knew what was going on, and he stayed with it. But people give him a pass, and make it about Disney and RJ, and some mythical agenda...
Ford WaNTED Han to DIE! Why not blame him for that? Everyone was angry about that? But did anyone blame HF? Nope!
Hamill was playing Luke and could have bowed out at any time, (and given up his payday!")
But he didn't, so according to the logic that the "people who made TLJ are A'hols", then Mark is just as big an a'hole for letting them do this to the beloved Luke and cashing his check at the end of the day.....
Hypocrisy ....pure and simple.
I am sure folks will respond...He couldn't help it , Disney had him under contract...RJ had his kids held hostage...blah blah blah....
In the end he could have bowed out and missed his payday......but he didn't so all you RJ haters, I hope you hate Hamill just as much.....if not read the line in bold above and repeat it over and over...
People , its a movie.....I mean why not "Mark Hamill is an *******"? I have said this before, Hamill knew what was going on, and he stayed with it. But people give him a pass, and make it about Disney and RJ, and some mythical agenda...
Ford WaNTED Han to DIE! Why not blame him for that? Everyone was angry about that? But did anyone blame HF? Nope!
Hamill was playing Luke and could have bowed out at any time, (and given up his payday!")
But he didn't, so according to the logic that the "people who made TLJ are A'hols", then Mark is just as big an a'hole for letting them do this to the beloved Luke and cashing his check at the end of the day.....
Hypocrisy ....pure and simple.
I am sure folks will respond...He couldn't help it , Disney had him under contract...RJ had his kids held hostage...blah blah blah....
In the end he could have bowed out and missed his payday......but he didn't so all you RJ haters, I hope you hate Hamill just as much.....if not read the line in bold above and repeat it over and over...
That Mark Hamill shirt would be *hilarious* to wear at the next SW Celebration.
Lol @ people legitimately thinking Mark doesn't like Rian.
But you must be right. Mark definitely hates Rian. In fact, he hates him so much that he continued to hangout with him well after TLJ came out and even after home video came out (https://twitter.com/rianjohnson/status/1000799117470150656?lang=en). And how Mark went through with making TLJ even though he could have absolutely just walked away from it and lost the paycheck if he didn't like it that much. Oh right, and also how Mark continues to follow and interact with Rian on twitter even though their work together is long finished. And I'm pretty sure Mark having nothing but nice things to say about Rian is all a front, even though they're not working together. And yes, I'm a BLIND FOOLISH IDIOT for using my brain and assuming that Rian was joking with Mark when he called him a mother****er, which everyone including Mark laughed at and Rian said with a joking tone. Shucks.
Anyway, thanks for the laugh. Poor Mark being a victim to all of this and being forced to do the movie, which he could have broken contract on anytime he wanted! I feel so bad for Mark having to pretend to still be friends with Rian even though they aren't working on anything together! I'm sure Rian kidnaps him when they hangout and tells him to smile or he'll ruin his childhood too! :'(
That Mark Hamill shirt would be *hilarious* to wear at the next SW Celebration.
They'd be more machine than man after the fans were done with them.
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Good points all. Though in my mind at least, the x-wing thing got solved with your idea. It was like a band-aid that stretches right over that aspect/part.
These are kind of fascinating discussions because it brings up questions of what defines Star Wars - like do you need a young Luke-type hero, and a dastardly black-clad villain with red saber, and a bearded old wise man, a superweapon, and a wider war with underdogs vs the massive army... in order for it to be SW (even beyond the expected basics of interplanetary locales, SW tech, etc. etc)? I guess you do. Maybe there's a fear if you don't you lose that essence - or audience expectation. And at what point does "homage" or "nods" turn into a rip-off - like the ROTJ throne room vs Snoke ship part you mention?
I really hope they do another Rogue One-type story, because that idea of grafting onto the OT (the BTTF2 idea of characters on an adventure in close proximity to story we know well) seems to have worked out the very best out of EVERYTHING post-OT. RO "felt" more like a SW movie than the ST and the PT combined, but the failure of Solo has likely sunk the prospect of a "adventure set in the week before ESB" type movie, and it also creates the "lack of recognizable/repeatable main characters" issue.
It's amazing how much HT messed up the TFA Luke boots - I think all of them are supposed to be some variation on his ANH boots, yet the ones they did for the TFA fig looked awful.
Cmon - not really fair. Hamill isn't Ford. He doesn't have a fleet of planes and a likely half a billion in the bank. Hamill needs acting work, or... work... and Luke is his only shot at a major payday. If he was close to Ford, in terms of wealth and/or career, I'd buy your argument. But it's just lame to suggest a guy who doesn't have a career and presumably has a bank balance that reflects that would just give the middle finger to Disney and walk away.
RJ had a pretty wide range of options to operate under for TLJ and he created what he did. To say that one of the actors who was brought into bring it to life should share the blame is kinda out there in terms of logic. Hamill may be an asset to the SW brand, but he's not someone whose word Disney would listen to.
This whole thing needs to blow over but I gotta agree, Hamill had like no juice with Disney. They straight up showed him that in the first movie by bringing him back and giving him exactly no lines. The movie is the directors vision. Ford is a different case cause he’s one of the upper eschellant performers in Hollywood that write their own parts.
I think im going to hold my nose and order this figure. It was his best appearance in the series so far. Damn you HT!
And damn me for being such a SW mark, even after TLJ!
I think im going to hold my nose and order this figure. It was his best appearance in the series so far. Damn you HT!
And damn me for being such a SW mark, even after TLJ!
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This is complete nonsense.
I personally think that for a movie to feel like Star Wars it really needs the OT aesthetic. McQuarrie-esque designs with that lived in feel. Once you break out of that mold then it becomes incredibly hard to not fully cross over into generic sci-fi Fifth Element/Battlestar Galactica/Star Trek territory. TPM felt like SW because even though it was a different era George set a good portion of it on Tatooine and then the final battle was very OT-ish with the space battle, lightsaber duel in the reactor room, and Gungan battle.
AOTC and ROTS lost the SW feel in more ways than one and ended up having more in common with "Cool World" than the OT IMO.
Think of the OT as being like "Braveheart" for a moment. Let's say that someone said "hey I want to make more Braveheart movies, and I'm going to really open up the timeline. I'll make some prequels that take place 2,000 years prior to William Wallace set in Egypt and some sequels set 700 years later in contemporary Los Angeles." Sure those could all be legitimate tales set in the same "universe" but once you move that far from the original aesthetic then there really isn't much point in even saying that the films are connected at all. If someone were to make more "Braveheart" films, with or without William Wallace, then the assumption is that they will be set around the 13th or 14th century in or around Scotland and feature highlanders, knights, broadswords and all that.
"Solo" nicely breaks the family drama/Force pupil/Empire vs. Rebels (minus Mimban of course) themes but still felt like SW due to it's adherence to the OT aesthetic. Keep that aesthetic and I think they can tell all manner of alternate stories. Westerns, heists, Samurai films, you name it.
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I hate many things about the HT TFA Luke, but the boots hadn't been one of those things. There's a ton of work I have to do to this figure, and I was hoping boots would at least be the one thing I wouldn't have to modify.
What is it about them that you think make them look awful? Your word is pretty much gold with me, so I'm really curious what it is about these boots that needs to improve.
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You do realize that had he just walked away from the film there would have been some fairly big consequences for him right? I mean he doesn't just get to come in and make any decision that he wants. He's under contract and if he breached that because of creative differences there probably would have been legal/financial implications for him as well as he'd be on the outs with Disney which is one of the biggest companies in Hollywood.
On top of that like someone else mentioned Hamill isn't Ford. Ford made a huge name for himself. Hamill played one of the most iconic film characters sure, but he's had far less work in live action big films overall. Most of his career has really been as a voice actor.
I think Mark probably doesn't hate Rian Johnson, but I do think its clear he didn't agree with a lot of the decisions made in regards to his character,
Hamill is not poor. He makes tons of money off these films...he told me himself...
I do not agree, as an actor you can take a role or not. Many female actors will not do nude scenes and have that written in their contracts. Hamill , had a choice to leave the role when he read the script, but he stuck with it (as would I ). Its a payday for him and his family and he is an actor and not what some people think (that he's their childhood hero).
Let me be clear, I , personally don't hold anyone responsible (mainly because I like the film) But if people are going to rip apart the director, then they should hold the actors that brought the story alive in some way.
Unfortunately, what we have here is a whole lot of hero worship...and people who will attack the director , while leaving the principal players as "Innocent little lambs" taken advantage of by the mean old "Disney Corporation". Especially with Ford, he must have made it part of his contract to have Han die...forcing ANY director to write that in.....yet Ford gets a pass for that. The amount of monies paid make no difference in the actors chice to take part in the story. Any of they could have walked if it offended them. In reality, money is what they wanted....and screw the story.....that the "hero's" people need to wake up to...
What a stunning , logical response...
No he isn't but thankfully Hamill is more professional than Ford (at least on set.) Harrison Ford is my favorite actor of all time but there's no denying that he and Hamill have pretty opposite behavior when it comes to their Star Wars characters not being handled the way that they want. Ford was just as annoyed with Lucas in ROTJ that he didn't get to do anything cool or have an epic death so he just phoned in his performance and sleepwalked every minute he was in front of the camera. Compared to Hamill who would disagree with the director in TLJ but still give his best performance of the Saga.
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Han Solo is a side character in the Skywalker Saga. Obviously a fantastic and great character, but still not the main character. Ford wanting Solo to die sucks but it doesn't matter because he's not the hero. That's why I don't care about Han nearly as much. Plus to me TFA is a Han Solo movie, he's in it so much. And he's the same old Han.
Mark Hamill is Luke Skywalker. He's the only one who can play that character. They're not going to re-cast. No matter what, Hamill had to do the movie. Everyone signed off on the script, this wasn't a fan project. As much as I would have loved for him to wipe his ass with the script and give it back to RJ I don't fault him because without him there is no movie. The whole thing comes crashing down, lots and lots of people who aren't the movie stars don't get work because of his decision and the fallout would be absurd to say the least. That's aside from the lawsuit Mark would get, I can only assume he was signed onto do 3 movies (at least). He's got to show up to do them or Disney could literally sue him for a billion dollars.
Mark Hamill is Luke Skywalker. He's the only one who can play that character. They're not going to re-cast. No matter what, Hamill had to do the movie. Everyone signed off on the script, this wasn't a fan project. As much as I would have loved for him to wipe his ass with the script and give it back to RJ I don't fault him because without him there is no movie. The whole thing comes crashing down, lots and lots of people who aren't the movie stars don't get work because of his decision and the fallout would be absurd to say the least. That's aside from the lawsuit Mark would get, I can only assume he was signed onto do 3 movies (at least). He's got to show up to do them or Disney could literally sue him for a billion dollars.
Interesting stuff. These are matters that GL, Disney and all the ST filmmakers have struggled with, and presumably continue to struggle with.I hate many things about the HT TFA Luke, but the boots hadn't been one of those things. There's a ton of work I have to do to this figure, and I was hoping boots would at least be the one thing I wouldn't have to modify.
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It's that the puttees ("socks" part) are about 10% undersized and the boots are about 10% oversized (and additionally, the HT sole also being proportionately about 10% too tall, giving it a tad more "70s platform shoes" look than the costume has,) combined with a very odd overall shortened body proportion of the HT figure that makes it look like an adult with an obese child's body wearing XXL size boots but with child's socks.
1/6 is weird - where it only takes 10% here or there on both sides to throw things out, even if at a glance it all seems roughly correct.
I believe what the core problem was is that there are very few ref pics of Luke in his TFA outfit that show the boots, and the common one you have used there is actually somewhat distorted (partly due to his foot being so far forward and partly due to lens/low angle.) In the wider, more neutral studio shot (taken with a longer lens, so less distortion) - the only other pic I've seen that shows the whole outfit and boots - shows the boots as more in proportion to the body than the common pic.
I'm boring of TLJ talk... back to the figure (again)...
The face sculpt actually looks pretty good IMO minus the beard being kinda narrow on the sides. It's mostly the hair that distracts me. I guess if you have him in an action pose it's alright, but even when he's moving around in the movie it's not slicked back like that. Would be curious to see someone attempt a photoshop of the sculpt with better hair.
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What the??? What? I have no fathomable idea what logic you're applying to your argument?
You profess to know Hamill personally, which leads me to believe you work in the industry in some way? If you do, you must be working in a different industry than me, because nothing you've stated makes any sense whatsoever. Hamill is no Ford, regardless of how much money he makes "off these films." Ford is one of the biggest super-stars that has ever lived - AND - he wouldn't have done it (TFA) if they hadn't have let him (Solo) die. Hamill disagreed with RJ's depiction of Luke, stated it, but moved forward as a professional, trusting the director to make it work. Unless the actors are rookies, desperate for a "break," they will always question the director to ensure they are in good hands, and have their full trust in their abilities and vision. And sometimes they don't get the vision, but trust the director to pull it off. Sometimes that pays off, and sometimes it doesn't - particularly if you are trying something different (which is exactly what RJ did).
Also, the whole system works on a tier basis. There's basically an unwritten equation that is used based on what they think the actor, directed, etc is worth (dollar value return). And I can tell you, Hamill isn't worth squat to a distributor (as anything other than Skywalker). Ford, however... and even then, his value isn't what it once was.
Furthermore, no one needs to "attack" everyone else involved in the film - as you said, they are just doing a job. RJ wrote and directed it. The buck stops with him, and the producers. Poor Kelly Marie Tran isn't a bad actor, she just had a poorly written character (as did everyone else in the film). Domhnall Gleeson is a masterful actor, but a complete embarrassment in TLJ - but that's not his fault, clearly it was the script, and the way he was directed.
As RJ stated in his own defense, it's his story, his film. So he needs to grow up and wear the criticism, because if you want to play in this arena, this is what happens. Not everyone will not like a film; look at Avatar, the highest grossing film worldwide (nearly 3 billion) and there's many people that don't like it.
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