Hot Toys - TDK - TWO-FACE / Harvey Dent PHOTO Thread
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Hot Toys is tough with photo threads. Only a small handful get him to start from overseas dealers, takes another month before the majority have them, and with Batman, the DCD deal where they come much later makes it even screwier.
Trust me, when I get my Two-Face there'll be no shortage of photo content here.
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LockJaw
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after watching the film tonight
(Christmas gift!)
i can say that Harvey's pants were damaged
mostly on the thigh
i wonder how HT made the suit have that burnt look to it
it'd be amazing to use the same process but on the pant leg
oh and the bone that's exposed, wasn't that white
so good job HT on their end
the only real things that need improvement are the nose hole, smaller eye socket, they have the shape right but it'd need to be reduced, photoshop it down and you have an idea of how it looks, and pretty much just a repaint, to look more pinkish and gray, and BLAM-O, all done
(Christmas gift!)
i can say that Harvey's pants were damaged
mostly on the thigh
i wonder how HT made the suit have that burnt look to it
it'd be amazing to use the same process but on the pant leg
oh and the bone that's exposed, wasn't that white
so good job HT on their end
the only real things that need improvement are the nose hole, smaller eye socket, they have the shape right but it'd need to be reduced, photoshop it down and you have an idea of how it looks, and pretty much just a repaint, to look more pinkish and gray, and BLAM-O, all done
laudanum09
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sounds like a bit more than BLAM-O...i think i'll wait till i see a really good mod and try and emulate that. any ideas on how to go about the nose hole? theres a scar on his nose about where the hole would be but not quite. i suppose you could just try and hollow it out yourself with an exacto knife or something?
LockJaw
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true true
an exacto knife perhaps
but could be safer to try something else
i'm not an expert on making modifications on an actual sculpt
the only real sculpt modifications i've seen on a figure was on two Jokers
i think it's Spliff's Joker, and Les' DCD Joker sculpt
he has a photo of a white unpainted head that looks like it had some modding done to it
an exacto knife perhaps
but could be safer to try something else
i'm not an expert on making modifications on an actual sculpt
the only real sculpt modifications i've seen on a figure was on two Jokers
i think it's Spliff's Joker, and Les' DCD Joker sculpt
he has a photo of a white unpainted head that looks like it had some modding done to it
cerealkeller
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Nail on the head. Aaron Eckhart deserves much more praise than what he has gotten. Overshadowed by Heath as the Joker so it's understandable. I ordered one from Studiosunny so I hope he arrives next week or the next. Waiting for Joe on my second Two-Face.
Ya, Eckhart did a great job with the role, Two-Face is just not a character prone to offering the entertainment value the Joker does, Ledger or not, the character alone just offers up unpredictable entertainment.
My only dissappointment with Two-Face was being an element to a film and not a focal villain/character of his own. A Batman with him as the only vilain with more focus probably could have delved into some more interesting character aspects. He works as one person damaged and jaded by events, but I'd have loved to see a Two-Face who truly is like two people in his mind and battling with that duality.
My only dissappointment with Two-Face was being an element to a film and not a focal villain/character of his own. A Batman with him as the only vilain with more focus probably could have delved into some more interesting character aspects. He works as one person damaged and jaded by events, but I'd have loved to see a Two-Face who truly is like two people in his mind and battling with that duality.
cerealkeller
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True. I was hoping for more duality and inability to make decisions on his own without the coin. One of my favorite moments in Arkham Asylum was the way his therapist tries to deal with this problem by giving him Terot cards. He looses the ability to decide to urinate, too many outcomes. More of this kind of inability to make decisions would have been great, maybe not to the extent of peeing himself, but you get the picture.
I think saving more of Two-Face for a third film would have been beneficial to the character, but as it stands, I'm still very satisfied with the choices Nolan made.
One cool thing i noticed the last time I watched TDK, did anyone else get the impression that after Two-Face flips the coin for his own fate and it lands clean side up he looks slightly disappointed? Almost like he doesn't want to kill the kid but is forced to because of the fate the coin has given him? That's the impression I got and I actually like it better that way as it still shows the duality Harvey is dealing with. I maybe reading too much into it
I think saving more of Two-Face for a third film would have been beneficial to the character, but as it stands, I'm still very satisfied with the choices Nolan made.
One cool thing i noticed the last time I watched TDK, did anyone else get the impression that after Two-Face flips the coin for his own fate and it lands clean side up he looks slightly disappointed? Almost like he doesn't want to kill the kid but is forced to because of the fate the coin has given him? That's the impression I got and I actually like it better that way as it still shows the duality Harvey is dealing with. I maybe reading too much into it
The Drizzle
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I think Nolan's deal is he is trying to make "villains" more of a plot device and less of the classic notion of an opposing "bad guy"- in Nolan's world, I'm not even sure they'd be considered villains, as much as threats or obstacles that are in many ways caused by the extremism of Batman's war on crime; unfortunate effects of Batman's existence "upping the ante" in Gotham City.
One cool thing i noticed the last time I watched TDK, did anyone else get the impression that after Two-Face flips the coin for his own fate and it lands clean side up he looks slightly disappointed? Almost like he doesn't want to kill the kid but is forced to because of the fate the coin has given him? That's the impression I got and I actually like it better that way as it still shows the duality Harvey is dealing with. I maybe reading too much into it
Yeah, it does seem like he's somewhat uncomfortable with accepting the coin's "choice". That's another way to me that the Nolanverse version of Harvey differs- with comic book Harvey, he's a threat that lives to fight another day. With TDK's Harvey, he's not a villain, he's a tragic character- bad things just keep pushing him and pushing him into a more desperate place where he is no longer able to stop the ball rolling, and he doesn't care what happens to himself. Just looking at him, I would think his disfigurement would be fatal left untreated- I think infection or gangrene would set in. He knew he was going to die, and he was going to get some revenge before he did. I think death was probably a welcome release for him. He just isn't the comic book Two-Face really in any way. That's what I think makes the Nolan films so good- he finds a way to make these garish villains make sense. The Joker/Mob angle was genius.
laudanum09
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i like what you've said. I was thinking about two-face for a bit this morning and all of his post-scarring rampaging...well...no one called him 'two-face' and he didnt go out and fashion a suit for himself and have a lair split into a good and bad side. Everyone was calling him harvey, and that really struck a chord. instead of a split personality we get the raging anti-hero side of harvey that we saw while he interrogated the goon in the alley. And it never really strays from crime drama by heading into bond villain territory...all of his scenes are confrontations with people 'responsible' for what happened to him, interrogating them for more information almost like a twisted detective or dirty harry story.
also it never really occured to me...what joker did to harvey is exactly what he tried to do to gordon in the killing joke, except with harvey he succeeds.
The Drizzle
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Yeah, really!
I'm not sure what Harvey would have done had the Joker not come along. He might have just lay there moping. This was all about losing Rachel- after losing her, nothing mattered to him any more. He had it all, and in a short period, he lost it all. Joker just came along, and riled him up and sort of set him on a destructive course. Harvey may have already thought about it, but Joker pushed him to act on it.
That's why I look so forward to the next movie- how in the world will they make more villains work without making them look like silly bad guys?
laudanum09
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i dunno...i was thinking that the mob or whatever remains of it will try and set up batman even more since he's now both, well presumably, fighting crime and running from the cops. in tdk he could at least show up to a crime scene and work with gordon but now he's totally excommunicated. I think a mix of mob wars vs. some more subtle freaks (croc as psycho muscle and penguin as like an arms dealer, bring back the scarecrow) combined with batman somehow trying to redeem himself in the eyes of the city. i also wouldnt mind talia al ghul but id prefer if they went further with the crime drama route.
JGouse0498
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IOne cool thing i noticed the last time I watched TDK, did anyone else get the impression that after Two-Face flips the coin for his own fate and it lands clean side up he looks slightly disappointed? Almost like he doesn't want to kill the kid but is forced to because of the fate the coin has given him? That's the impression I got and I actually like it better that way as it still shows the duality Harvey is dealing with. I maybe reading too much into it
That's exactly what I got from it too. Harvey doesn't want to do this, but he feels so victimized that he desperately wants revenge. Look at his expression and body language when Batman says "You don't want to kill the boy, Harvey." And then his response: "It's not about what I want. It's about what's fair!"
Harvey doesn't want to do this, but he feels he has no choice in the matter.
That's why he flips the coin in the order he does.
First, he flips for Batman because he considers Batman most responsible for setting things in motion by going after the mob, which leads to the Joker's reign of terror that killed Rachel.
Second, he flips for himself because 1) he doesn't want to go on living ("There is no escape from this!") and 2) he doesn't want to have more blood on his hands.
I personally like how this version of the character had more of Harvey in its because it made it more believable. Harvey has gone insane, but it's not to such a depth that it'd be hard to believe.
Evrybdyluvsjosh
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so...um....more pictures? Or a U.S. release date? This discussion of the characterization of Dent is great and all, but I really want more pictures!
You're going to have to wait, there's not even a half dozen folks on this board with this figure to post picture, I think there are only 2 right now.
Unfortunately with these TDK figures, photo threads can be a bit premature when they're started and only a handful of folks have it.
Toys2 customers can expect to have him shipped to them over the next few weeks, not sure about anyone else, and as far as I know, the DCD release is still at June so anyone getting him that way's going to be waiting some time.
