Hot Toys - TDK - TWO-FACE / Harvey Dent PHOTO Thread

[Voorhees27]

Oh I know, I was just being humorous Connor no but you never know about Marcus. Both Connors should sell well because of the Bale factor.

 

[karamazov80]

Well, Two-Face has seemed unpopular, even after release, he's probably the most, if only, discounted TDK figure. Marcus and Connor seem well received all around, not sure they'll be following Two-Face's footsteps.

Most discounted, perhaps, but all the figures except original suit Bats have gone way down in price. Partly due to the economy, but also partly due to the announcement of the DX figures (2 Face excluded because he isn't as popular, as you say).

I personally think the T: Salvation figures will go down, as well. Yeah, they look nice and all, but the movie hasn't received the over-whelming support of the fans. Lots of people (such as myself) won't buy a nice figure from a crappy movie. And so, just a hunch, but I don't think these will maintain retail price in the long run.

Maybe the Endos will, but I'm just not sure about the humans.

 

[DiFabio]

The figure would have been more popular if they included a third head. Not movie accurate, but I'd buy it.

 

[MaulFan]

I think it would have been more popular if it had been more accurrate. It's an expensive figure and pretty cool looking, but competing with multiple jokers and other lines, I think the character would have struggled even if dead accurrate, then a little inaccurracy leads to even less favor for him. Not saying that he's horribly inaccurrate, but it could be enough in a competitive market for some folks to not feel him worth the money he cost, especially if they would be iffy even about a fully accurrate figure.

 

[EdwardNashton1]

The figure would have been more popular if they included a third head. Not movie accurate, but I'd buy it.

third head?......also i cant see that image -_-

 

[haytil]

The figure would have been more popular if they included a third head. Not movie accurate, but I'd buy it.

Haha - looks almost like Black Mask!

 

[Biojex]

that's a friggin weird pic *shudders*

 

[vodoun]

Reminds me the end of Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade.

 

[SnowRaven0404]

The figure would have been more popular if they included a third head. Not movie accurate, but I'd buy it.

LOL! Three face

also this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycCTiToYZ1A

 

[EVILFACE]

LOL! Three face

also this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycCTiToYZ1A

Ha, that was amusing.

 

[Buttmunch]

I guess this thread is as good as any for this news:

Eckhart was on the Tonight show yesterday for a new romantic comedy he is in. Conan asked him directly about Batman 3. He asked if he was coming back. Eckhart said he thought Two-face was dead and that Heath was indeed meant to go on an be in the next film. He said he would love to come back and play Two-face again if Nolan brings him back.

So nothing really new there, but it is good to know he would come back if asked. Maybe if it was just for the flashbacks of those "5 murders" that everyone likes to bring up. It will be interesting to see what they do, especially since it sounded like the Joker was a vital part of part 3's storyline. I wonder if Nolan will recast if he feels Joker is that important to their planned story. He recasted Rachel because of her importance to the story so it isn't out of the question, but those would certainly be big clown shoes to fill.

 

[MaulFan]

Without knowing Nolan's vision, I don't see Joker as something that needs to come back to drive the story, he seems like a stop along the path Batman's taking. Rachel was more key because she was an element that drove him on that path and she was a significant tie to normality for Bruce. As far as Joker's role, I don't think anything established in TDK lines him up as critical to Batman's character arc and can easily be written off as just the character in his darkest hour and move on.

I'm not sure how I feel about Two-Face coming back, as Nolan portrayed him, he felt like a one film deal, had he been kept the more split persona of comics and the old cartoon, it would be nice to explore that more, but I'm not sure where else you could take Nolan's Two-Face, he seemed more driven on vengeance until it consumed him.

 

[Buttmunch]

I've always felt the cover-up at the end of TDK would come back to haunt Batman and Gordon. And the only real way for that to happen would be to have the truth about Harvey come out. And unless Harvey were still alive to do that, I don't know how a storyline like that would work. But I think it would be a good storyline because it would cast doubt in everything Gotham believes in. Harvey was their white knight and if he could fall, then who couldn't? That is when Batman steps in to become the hero Gotham needs and deserves.

Just a thought.

 

[SnowRaven0404]

Without knowing Nolan's vision, I don't see Joker as something that needs to come back to drive the story, he seems like a stop along the path Batman's taking. Rachel was more key because she was an element that drove him on that path and she was a significant tie to normality for Bruce. As far as Joker's role, I don't think anything established in TDK lines him up as critical to Batman's character arc and can easily be written off as just the character in his darkest hour and move on.

See, I kinda see it like you do too considering the Joker's role in Batman's development. Yeah, there was that whole "you and I are destined to do this forever" part but I can't wrap my head around how Nolan--even if Heath was still around--could use that character in such a way that it's not repetive to what was so wonderfully and uniquely set up onscreen. Nolan doesn't seem to like to repeat the same theme and villains in his Batman movies aside from the main theme of escalation in both films. Even Scarecrow barely got a cameo as it is but it was simply to connect the two films of Batman Begins and The Dark Knight together it seems for those unfamiliar.

I'm not sure how I feel about Two-Face coming back, as Nolan portrayed him, he felt like a one film deal, had he been kept the more split persona of comics and the old cartoon, it would be nice to explore that more, but I'm not sure where else you could take Nolan's Two-Face, he seemed more driven on vengeance until it consumed him.

...plus, wouldn't he need some longterm medical attention to his injuries??

Just saying, he wouldn't have realistically lived too much longer with those injuries. Dent was not accepting any life-saving surgeries and pain-killing meds as it was in the hospital for like what a day or two already? And infection would set in not too long after that, vengeance and grief were his only brief life motives by then.

 

[SnowRaven0404]

I've always felt the cover-up at the end of TDK would come back to haunt Batman and Gordon. And the only real way for that to happen would be to have the truth about Harvey come out. And unless Harvey were still alive to do that, I don't know how a storyline like that would work. But I think it would be a good storyline because it would cast doubt in everything Gotham believes in. Harvey was their white knight and if he could fall, then who couldn't? That is when Batman steps in to become the hero Gotham needs and deserves.

Just a thought.

Yeah, but couldn't a smart enough character make the connection to all that even with Dent dead and gone?

....hence, The Riddler? Hence, we get to see Batman become more of the detective we saw hinted at in the films?

 

[MaulFan]

See, I kinda see it like you do too considering the Joker's role in Batman's development. Yeah, there was that whole "you and I are destined to do this forever" part but I can't wrap my head around how Nolan--even if Heath was still around--could use that character in such a way that it's not repetive to what was so wonderfully and uniquely set up onscreen. Nolan doesn't seem to like to repeat the same theme and villains in his Batman movies aside from the main theme of escalation in both films. Even Scarecrow barely got a cameo as it is but it was simply to connect the two films of Batman Begins and The Dark Knight together it seems for those unfamiliar.

I'm sure something interesting could be done, Joker can function in the background and drive others. I just think, thankfully, he wasn't presented in TDK such that you expect him to be there longterm at the forefront, he can exist as a conversation piece about him at Arkham and be enough to keep him around but nothing in TDK suggests if you don't see Joker in the next movie, something's missing, not like Rachel who was a key tie to Bruce's life.

 

[viezure]

LOL! Three face

also this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycCTiToYZ1A

Also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYwGYh3xzG4

 

[SnowRaven0404]

I'm sure something interesting could be done, Joker can function in the background and drive others. I just think, thankfully, he wasn't presented in TDK such that you expect him to be there longterm at the forefront, he can exist as a conversation piece about him at Arkham and be enough to keep him around but nothing in TDK suggests if you don't see Joker in the next movie, something's missing, not like Rachel who was a key tie to Bruce's life.

This is true. Whatever step Nolan takes with that character of the Joker and also in most likely introducing a new female interest for Bruce now that Rachel is gone, I'm sure it'll be a very interesting plot. He's set up some engaging villains with his two films it's very interesting to know what's the next step with Bruce/Batman's development will be and who are the new bady guys to face him off. The character of the Joker puts him in a bit of a bind professionally and emotionally for a few obvious reasons involving Heath Ledger, but I'm sure Nolan will think of something that will both highly please and not offend anyone including himself, the acting and film community and then the fans and critics too. I don't think a Joker recasting is the answer...it just complicates things further for everyone involved in the film and who will watch it. It would be like recasting Bruce/Batman(especially) or Gordon or Alfred at this point by other actors, they've been accepted as these characters too much that it would be awkward and jarring for the viewer and Nolan seems like the the kinda guy who makes movies for people to think about and love like he does before being about the money. I totally see Nolan pulling out a scene from the beginning of the Killing Joke with a decoy Joker(the guy was almost like a chameleon or maybe he was a ventriloquist picked by the Joker) setup to further ^^^^ with Batman's head and allow Joker to escape Arkham. Anyway, it's a lot of pressure in general to follow up with something bigger or at the very least equal to Batman Begins or The Dark Knight, but he's had plenty of time to think and there's plenty of Batman comics to pull ideas from.

 

[SnowRaven0404]

Also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYwGYh3xzG4

Haha, yeah, I got'm all saved.

 

[EdwardNashton1]

I think the Joker could be recasted, I like the guy from joker blogs