Hot Toys TDKR: 1/4th scale Batman [QS001] - Full Reveal & Specs

[BrooklynWolf X]

I take but what I said I thought you were talking about that Frank Jaeger guy. I don' t think T7 means to troll I think he is just upset.



He is probably pissed off how Enterbay can produce such realistic products but the one figure he likes the most Enterbay will not produce and so he has go to Hot Toys for it. However, Hot Toys can't sculpt this figure at all and it probably pisses him off as it is one of his favorite characters. So I agree with T7.





Yeah I agree, I misread Fiend's post, I really apologize for agreeing with him in the first place.



Well TBH it has only failed in collectors like us (which are the minority) that like realism, likeness and accuracy. The majority of people are happy with an inaccurate head sculpt as long as the figure as a whole represents the character.



Yeah the Medicom one is still way better (as far as accuracy goes), the only advantage the Hot Toys one has is that it looks nicer and not cheap looking. Like I said T7 do not waist your time trying to prove your point I just got bashed so hard by someone there in the DX12 thread and everyone started to jump in and bash me even more, then someone agreed what I said and must of explained it beter than me and the person who originally bashed me STFU!

I know it hurts when you want a figure so bad but the company ****s it up but unfortunately on this thread you cant express your opinon most of the time because Hot Toys fan boys outweigh people who prefer accuracy over poor likeness.

Dude, there's a difference between expressing your opinion on something and trolling. The other guy is trolling. How? He travels from thread to thread constantly trashing dx12...EVEN WHEN THE THREAD ISN'T ABOUT THE DAMN THING!!!

Like I said to you earlier, just state your point, move on. If you don't see eye to eye with other members, then drop it.

Let me give you a rough breakdown on how T7 rolls. Just so you have an idea of what we had to deal with.

SSF:dx12 rocks
T7:it sucks
SSF:no it doesn't
T7:it sucks
SSF:whatever dude
T7:it sucks
SSF:we get it. Hey can someone link me Robbie's mout....
T7:it sucks
SSF:OK. We get it. You don't like it, please, stop. Anyway, hey how much is lforignos cap....
T7:IT SUCKS
SSF:.....

'Months later'

SSF:hey look at these new pics with my new camer....
T7:it sucks
SSF:WTH!?

'Days later'

SSF:man, I hope HT does...
T7:it sucks
SSF? Whu?? Wth are you talking about?!
T7:dx12. It sucks.
SSF:this isn't even about batman!!
T7:.......IT SUCKS

DEFINITION OF TROLL

 

[Tyranus7]

Dude, there's a difference between expressing your opinion on something and trolling. The other guy is trolling. How? He travels from thread to thread constantly trashing dx12...EVEN WHEN THE THREAD ISN'T ABOUT THE DAMN THING!!!

Like I said to you earlier, just state your point, move on. If you don't see eye to eye with other members, then drop it.

Let me give you a rough breakdown on how T7 rolls. Just so you have an idea of what we had to deal with.

SSF:dx12 rocks
T7:it sucks
SSF:no it doesn't
T7:it sucks
SSF:whatever dude
T7:it sucks
SSF:we get it. Hey can someone link me Robbie's mout....
T7:it sucks
SSF:OK. We get it. You don't like it, please, stop. Anyway, hey how much is lforignos cap....
T7:IT SUCKS
SSF:.....

'Months later'

SSF:hey look at these new pics with my new camer....
T7:it sucks
SSF:WTH!?

'Days later'

SSF:man, I hope HT does...
T7:it sucks
SSF? Whu?? Wth are you talking about?!
T7:dx12. It sucks.
SSF:this isn't even about batman!!
T7:.......IT SUCKS

DEFINITION OF TROLL

So by definition you are a troll

FACT is I think I can get like 10 post from you calling me a troll... isn't that being a bit repetitive and troll???

 

[BrooklynWolf X]

So by definition you are a troll

FACT is I think I can get like 10 post from you calling me a troll... isn't that being a bit repetitive and troll???

Yeah, I should take a good look at myself

You're probably right that you can find my 10 very justified posts of calling you a troll...

Hmmm...you know what? Just for kicks, lets see how many posts we can find of you talking **** about the dx12? Across ALLLL threads?!

*hint* it's probably in the hundreds....oh but I'm sure you already knew that.



Edit: you DO realize that by your ATTEMPT to insult me, you pretty much validated and confirmed your trolling behavior right? Cause if you didn't know....well...now y'do.

 

[Tyranus7]

Yeah, I should take a good look at myself

You're probably right that you can find my 10 very justified posts of calling you a troll...

Hmmm...you know what? Just for kicks, lets see how many posts we can find of you talking **** about the dx12? Across ALLLL threads?!

*hint* it's probably in the hundreds....oh but I'm sure you already knew that.



Edit: you DO realize that by your ATTEMPT to insult me, you pretty much validated and confirmed your trolling behavior right? Cause if you didn't know....well...now y'do.

Ok, this is like the 10+ post of you calling me a troll again, ...

Why don't you just ignore me... and go back there and kiss your DX12 or whatever you do with him, as you love him so much

And let people who enjoy accuracy, like me or Darkavatar to discuss about it

 

[Darkavatar]

Dude, there's a difference between expressing your opinion on something and trolling. The other guy is trolling. How? He travels from thread to thread constantly trashing dx12...EVEN WHEN THE THREAD ISN'T ABOUT THE DAMN THING!!!

Ok that is really weird.

Like I said to you earlier, just state your point, move on. If you don't see eye to eye with other members, then drop it.

I agree but if you disagree with people, they will start to bash you like they did in the DX12 thread to me, even if you are trying to stop the argument, they try to continue to prove that you are wrong (which you might be) by constant bashing. So you can't make your point and move on because people want to argue to prove you are wrong.

Let me give you a rough breakdown on how T7 rolls. Just so you have an idea of what we had to deal with.

SSF:dx12 rocks
T7:it sucks
SSF:no it doesn't
T7:it sucks
SSF:whatever dude
T7:it sucks
SSF:we get it. Hey can someone link me Robbie's mout....
T7:it sucks
SSF:OK. We get it. You don't like it, please, stop. Anyway, hey how much is lforignos cap....
T7:IT SUCKS
SSF:.....

'Months later'

SSF:hey look at these new pics with my new camer....
T7:it sucks
SSF:WTH!?

'Days later'

SSF:man, I hope HT does...
T7:it sucks
SSF? Whu?? Wth are you talking about?!
T7:dx12. It sucks.
SSF:this isn't even about batman!!
T7:.......IT SUCKS

DEFINITION OF TROLL

Ok from what I have read on this thread he doesn't repeat himself but from what you have shown me, yeah that does sound like a troll. So IDK, all I can say is I agree with the points T7 has said in the thread here.However, after what you have shown me I do not know what to think about T7 now.

 

[BrooklynWolf X]

Ok that is really weird.



I agree but if you disagree with people, they will start to bash you like they did in the DX12 thread to me, even if you are trying to stop the argument, they try to continue to prove that you are wrong (which you might be) by constant bashing. So you can't make your point and move on because people want to argue to prove you are wrong.




Ok from what I have read on this thread he doesn't repeat himself but from what you have shown me, yeah that does sound like a troll. So IDK, all I can say is I agree with the points T7 has said in the thread here.However, after what you have shown me I do not know what to think about T7 now.

It's all about self control. I too have been caught up in heated debates over...well...lets face it, trivial things. Be it pride, passion, when you strongly disagree with someone, then another chimes in, it becomes a vicious circle.

Think of it this way, when you go see a movie, you and a few others dislike it, do you scream out loud how much you hate it? No. You get up and leave, lest you want the entire audience booing you out, or, in some cases, an arse whopping. I know my analogy isn't the best, but it's letting you and others know that if the majority are enjoying a product, you're better off just saying your piece, then move on. They're just as passionate about the hobby/product, even if its on the other side of the coin. It's not about giving up, it's not about having your pride hurt, it's just realizing that your opinion is in the minority and accepting that unpopular views WILL be met with hostility. Of course, if your views are hostile and condescending to begin with, I think it goes without saying that person is unwelcome.

As for T7, I can't stand him and I can't believe I allowed myself to get dragged into his desperate yells for attention. It's unreal how such blatant trolling can carry on like this.

 

[Stanlore]

It's all about self control. I too have been caught up in heated debates over...well...lets face it, trivial things. Be it pride, passion, when you strongly disagree with someone, then another chimes in, it becomes a vicious circle.

Think of it this way, when you go see a movie, you and a few others dislike it, do you scream out loud how much you hate it? No. You get up and leave, lest you want the entire audience booing you out, or, in some cases, an arse whopping. I know my analogy isn't the best, but it's letting you and others know that if the majority are enjoying a product, you're better off just saying your piece, then move on. They're just as passionate about the hobby/product, even if its on the other side of the coin. It's not about giving up, it's not about having your pride hurt, it's just realizing that your opinion is in the minority and accepting that unpopular views WILL be met with hostility. Of course, if your views are hostile and condescending to begin with, I think it goes without saying that person is unwelcome.

As for T7, I can't stand him and I can't believe I allowed myself to get dragged into his desperate yells for attention. It's unreal how such blatant trolling can carry on like this.

It sucks.

 

[BrooklynWolf X]

It sucks.

We get it.....

 

[Darkavatar]

I hate to say it but a lot of people are right about the SSF boards being a bit ridiculous. If you state your opinion and people don't like it, hope you're prepared to be gang raped and crucified..

Yeah I know, someone has his own thread on his opinions of why he doesn't like the PERS system, but I have not bothered to read it because I am sure he would get attacked there by people who love it. Then everyone would start arguing.

It's all about self control. I too have been caught up in heated debates over...well...lets face it, trivial things. Be it pride, passion, when you strongly disagree with someone, then another chimes in, it becomes a vicious circle.

Think of it this way, when you go see a movie, you and a few others dislike it, do you scream out loud how much you hate it? No. You get up and leave, lest you want the entire audience booing you out, or, in some cases, an arse whopping. I know my analogy isn't the best, but it's letting you and others know that if the majority are enjoying a product, you're better off just saying your piece, then move on. They're just as passionate about the hobby/product, even if its on the other side of the coin. It's not about giving up, it's not about having your pride hurt, it's just realizing that your opinion is in the minority and accepting that unpopular views WILL be met with hostility. Of course, if your views are hostile and condescending to begin with, I think it goes without saying that person is unwelcome.

The thing is its just a toy, why to people so offended by it? I was only commenting in the DX12 thread because I guess I didn't agree with what someone said but I said I still respect your opinion. Maybe people got up set when I laughed when clipper king said PERS makes the figure look more realistic. Maybe that is what caused the mess?

I think your movie analogy makes sense we should just shut our mouths if we disagree because it just causes arguments IMO, even when you try to stop it then that is not enough. So I think the best thing to do is not to say anything in the first place.

As for T7, I can't stand him and I can't believe I allowed myself to get dragged into his desperate yells for attention. It's unreal how such blatant trolling can carry on like this.

I wouldn't know, this is only thread I have seen him comment in, probably because I rarely go to the DX12 thread and not many other threads either lately.

 

[BrooklynWolf X]

Yeah I know, someone has his own thread on his opinions of why he doesn't like the PERS system, but I have not bothered to read it because I am sure he would get attacked there by people who love it. Then everyone would start arguing.





The thing is its just a toy, why to people so offended by it? I was only commenting in the DX12 thread because I guess I didn't agree with what someone said but I said I still respect your opinion. Maybe people got up set when I laughed when clipper king said PERS makes the figure look more realistic. Maybe that is what caused the mess?

I think your movie analogy makes sense we should just shut our mouths if we disagree because it just causes arguments IMO, even when you try to stop it then that is not enough. So I think the best thing to do is not to say anything in the first place.



I wouldn't know, this is only thread I have seen him comment in, probably because I rarely go to the DX12 thread and not many other threads either lately.

Well I wouldn't go so far as to not say anything at all. This is a place for collectors to discuss, vent, debate and at times argue over a hobby we all share.
If you can't say anything, it'd be a stifling place no?

it boils down to a point where one person on either side needs to step back and actually realize that "ok, we're going in circles here, no one seems to be backing down nor is anyone understanding my point"...maybe I should stop before things get out of hand...I mean, you said it, we're ARGUING OVER TOYS.

Then you have the little circle where they feel their point hasn't come across from their HUNDREDS of posts repeating the same thing over and over again that they feel the need to spam their trollishness across multiple threads. It's like "y'know what? I don't think they understand my feels....this troll thing people keep calling me? Yeah, I think I'll continue to do that...it seems it's the only way they'll pay attention to me"

 

[Mix Master]

my face reading this thread

 

[batfan08]

The bottom line is that this thing needs work. Put it side by side with some screenshots of Bale, and you'll see. If that doesn't convince you, put the Keaton Bats next to some screenshots of Keaton and you'll see what Hot Toys is capable of versus what they're putting out with this thing. It needs better expressions, better PERS, some proportional fixes, and some reshaping on the cowl. Hopefully, they did that already, but, if not; well, it's not worth it IMO.

 

[Darkavatar]

Well I wouldn't go so far as to not say anything at all. This is a place for collectors to discuss, vent, debate and at times argue over a hobby we all share.
If you can't say anything, it'd be a stifling place no? it boils down to a point where one person on either side needs to step back and actually realize that "ok, we're going in circles here, no one seems to be backing down nor is anyone understanding my point"...maybe I should stop before things get out of hand...I mean, you said it, we're ARGUING OVER TOYS.

Yeah it would be a stifling place but when I mean you can not say anything I mean, I mean you should not say anything bad about a figure by going into detail why it is bad, unless you do it from a crowd that thinks the same way as you. Otherwise people that do not agree with you find it offensive and will do everything in their power to prove you wrong and the argument won't end even if u say lets just agree to disagree. They will only want it to end once you have admitted they are right and you are wrong from my experience.

Going by how many recast heads MRM sold, I thought the DX12 thread would be a place safe to comment on how bad I thought PERS was since clipper king could not understand why people thought it was a bad thing. However, I guess I was wrong.

Then you have the little circle where they feel their point hasn't come across from their HUNDREDS of posts repeating the same thing over and over again that they feel the need to spam their trollishness across multiple threads. It's like "y'know what? I don't think they understand my feels....this troll thing people keep calling me? Yeah, I think I'll continue to do that...it seems it's the only way they'll pay attention to me"

I think I am guilty of that to a point in the past at least but was unaware I was doing it. Nevertheless, I think it was my fault for answering people's request of why a certain sculpt was wrong.

 

[BatBrain]

Every time I see this thread bumped I get my hopes up that we have some news on him.

 

[Darkavatar]

The bottom line is that this thing needs work. Put it side by side with some screenshots of Bale, and you'll see. If that doesn't convince you, put the Keaton Bats next to some screenshots of Keaton and you'll see what Hot Toys is capable of versus what they're putting out with this thing. It needs better expressions, better PERS, some proportional fixes, and some reshaping on the cowl. Hopefully, they did that already, but, if not; well, it's not worth it IMO.

It only needs work for the collector that prefers likeness and realism over the collector that is just happy with having a TDKR Batman character alone (the majority of Hot Toys collectors). Like I said before we are in the minority so in the minds of Hot Toys there is nothing to fix, I am sorry to say.

 

[chemspawn]

New pics please.....

There is nothing more to say about this figure...but be honest! Finally almost all of us we'll buy the 1/4 hottoys bat...

 

[Frank Jaeger]

WOW.. Lots of unnecessary 1up-ing on personal opinions.

I'm not going to drag it out but if you think i was trolling, that's fine.

I was merely stating the fact that you can't call something a fail and **** all over it just because you don't like it. It was both of you that couldn't leave it alone and i was only responding to comments already made by T7.

You've both come into a thread of a figure you both personally don't like just to diss it and say how the enterbay one is so much better, forcing YOUR opinions on everyone else. Not to mention possibly putting people off something they may want to buy because there constantly bombarded by people who can't move on calling it ****, failing that you'll shy some members away because they just don't want an argument.

I was just talking as somebody who doesn't love or hate it, but i do hate reading your mundane arguments. Yes we all know it's not 100% likeness and could be far better. Why don't you make a thread about it so you can all go talk about all much you hate it. Just don't do it in the threads where people are coming to enjoy the figure, and then try to justify yourself. Nobody cares

Why do you all insist on keep coming back to the threads of figures you don't like just to complain about them?

 

[BillPriff]

I'm just ready for final product pics already...it's supposedly a month or less away from release, perhaps by the weekend we get some OMG pics so we can all bicker some more. Last twenty pages or so have been nothing but mud slinging over pers and the cowl shape. You either like it or you don't. It's that simple fellas. Remember bane Proto pics were less than stellar too. And he turned out pretty good! But this is probably hot toys last bale bats for awhile, maybe they saved the best for last? Here's to wishful thinking

 

[BillPriff]

When was the last time this figure was seen? It has been at least 5-6months since the last fresh pics yea?

 

[Frank Jaeger]

It's undoubtably going to be delayed. Hot Toys have had a hard time getting anything out on time recently

The 1/4 Endo has been pushed back, my guess this will be too. Without any changes to the figure!