batfan08
Super Freak
It think it's safe to say we see it differentlyFor me, I see the half flesh tone sculpt and see Ledger, no question. So for me, the paint isn't masking anything. You don't see the same and, well, fortunately for me, that's not my problem. And yes I agree that it's nice that Adam's looks like Ledger as well, but it's missing any emotion or character that Heath put into the Joker. So it's still a fail in my book.
With all that said, I will say that I COMPLETELY understand your position about Yulli and this character. I feel the same way about Kojun and Jack Sparrow. No one usually agrees with me but that's fine. I buy it and modify as I see fit. And maybe that's another reason I don't get so muffed about these things. I may not be the greatest painter, but I'm not too shy to same that I'm talented enough to "fix" or improve upon certain things myself such as the MoS and BvS Superman figures for example. I've been modding figures since Sideshow started the 1/6 LOTR line so alot of things don't bother me. If I see something wrong I can usually fix it to my liking. I understand some ppl don't have that and/or don't feel that they should have to.
But I think you as well as anyone else can agree, there's always room for improvement. I by no means think this is the end all be all Joker sculpt. I don't think there will ever be one. look how many custom ones have been produced over the years...every single one is usually the next big thing and arguably even better than the last. I honestly think it's a matter of everyone finding one that they are individually satisfied with and that can/probably is the BR Joker sculpt for some. Others it might be the DX01, or the Cop sculpt and so on and so forth. Hypothetically speaking, if you absolutely loved this sculpt you'd probably think other's were crazy for bashing it
I know Adam can capture an expressionWhat I was getting at was that the one time he's given the opportunity to do an officially licensed one, he chooses not to. Granted, that could've also been a P1 requirement and he had no choice in the matter. I admit that I don't know that info.
Complaints on the original BB were both the cowl and the mouth areas. The TF EX version was the one with the QC issues and dry looking suit where as the BB suit that was released under the TDK banner stayed nice and semi-shiney.
At the end of the day we all see things differently, and as nuts as it can get, it's part of what makes this community...unique
Personally? It isn't just the Yulli thing. It's that HT thinks they deserve a pat on the back for finally doing a 1/4 scale Joker when it's a step backward in literally every way. The DX 01 included two heads and two outfits, one with moveable eyes, the DX 11 came with two heads creating two distinctive looks, one with PERS, and a table and chair, the QS 001 came with two heads, moveable eyes, interchangeable faces and every single accessory, gadget, or weapon that Batman used with that suit in The Dark Knight Trilogy, even though it was technically only a "Dark Knight Rises" figure. The QS 009 includes two sculpts, a harness to create two distinctive looks, interchangeable faces, and every accessory Batman used in the Batman Begins suit.
This thing comes with the grenade rig, a mask that people already got with the TDKR Batman, 4 guns, only one of his knives, his pencil, and a pipe, and, technically speaking, only one sculpt (and inaccurate socks
). One that doesn't even look all that much like Ledger, as we've seen from multiple parties (not even just the most vocal among us). I don't know if you remember, but I was on your side of the fence with the DX 11. I knew that the sculpts weren't perfect, but, at least, they were trying something different with some expressive looks that, in tandem with the paintwork and other areas of the package, like the sheer massive number of accessories and the fact that it only had a $275 price tag made those forgiveable.I'm not an idiot. I know we were never going to see a 1/4 Scale table or multiple outfits, but why is it that one head of the two is an exclusive that never appeared on screen? Why is it that they clearly are trying to evoke the mob scene with this figure yet couldn't give him his toothy grin that he consistently flashed throughout the scene? Hell, why is it that they couldn't give him a chair or the bench in the jail cell to sit on along with an interrogation sculpt (which, as evidenced by their stupid ass dual headsculpt, they're entirely capable of creating)?
Why? Because they don't have to. Because people are content to ride Howard's **** just because it's Ledger Joker, it's 1/4 scale, and it's Hot Toys. Honestly? Even if they fix the sculpt? I still don't even know that I'd be *that* excited about it, because, between the stupid creative decisions, the relatively barebones release that this figure is, and the fact that this thing is going to come with an accompanying, overinflated price tag (considering the current PO price overseas is what? $50 more than the Begins figure, which puts it to shame in terms of likeness, accessories, and, pretty much everything, really, and that still isn't even considering the added "Sideshow tax" once it goes up for order to US markets.
It isn't just that the sculpts are mediocre. It isn't just that it's a barebones figure. It's that this is an iconic character from an iconic film and one that, frankly, doesn't deserve to be treated this way. When the QS 001 went up, I was like a goddamn kid at Christmas. Even with his weird ass faceplates and great big google moogly eyes and the assorted inaccuracies on the suit, I was so caught up in how overwhelming it was that they had packed this thing with, literally, everything and the kitchen sink, that I got hyped, and then, when everyone pointed out the room for improvement and they listened and delivered, probably, the definitive TDK Batman in any scale? That was a special release; they knew what it could be and they made sure that it was.
It's just disappointing that this is their Quarter Scale Joker. While it's awesome that I can get the pair of Begins and TDK Batman and have a definitive Nolan Batman display, it's still pretty damn sucky that the most iconic villain in the series, and, frankly, one of the most iconic villains in film history doesn't get that same treatment.
