Hot Toys The Last Jedi Luke Skywalker 1/6 Figure

[SilverStar17]

Why would he even need the X-wing? I for one was excited to see Luke fly through space using the Force. Because that's a thing. Make a Space Luke, Hot Toys!

Wrong character.

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

Wrong character.

Why? Anything is possible now in the Rian Johnson universe, star wars now features.... Astral hologram projection, weaponized hyper space, flying through space with no spacecraft, hero Jedi Master Luke as a down on his luck loser, kylo and Rey are uber powerful with little to no training, astral projecting real tangible objects is a thing, Rey and snoke apparently have no story but they are just crazy powerful, dead Jedi ghosts can now set fires and interact tangibly in the real world, random children can channel the force with no training, pointless political commentary, force users can now Skype each other in their minds, etc etc....but yet the idea that Jedi Master Luke, an ace X wing pilot who worked extensively on spacecraft in his youth can make the necessary repairs to his own x wing is completely ridiculous?

 

[Tee-Kay]

The X-Wing working or not doesn't matter. Early in the movie, he asks Rey something along the lines of, "Do you expect me to be able to take down the First Order with a lightsaber?" That was establishing his thinking on how effective he could be against Kylo, Snoke, and company with the Resistance in the shape it's in. How he would leave the planet doesn't matter, because he knew that being there would be futile. I think he probably had decided to help once he saw R2's Leia hologram again. At that point, he could have gone in the Falcon. His choice not to was because he knew better.

Ultimately, whenever he realized that he needed to help, he also knew it needed to be in a different way. I saw it as smart instead of cowardly to do the hologram idea. Imagine if that was actually the real Luke instead: wouldn't Kylo still unleash the same firepower? The result wouldn't have helped Leia, or the Resistance. Luke used his mastery of the Force to take a smarter approach to helping Leia. If you look at it as a cowardly choice, you have to believe that going with Rey (or going in his X-Wing) would have been more effective. I don't see how it could have been. Kylo is obsessed with killing Luke, and we've known that since Force Awakens. He makes that pretty clear in TLJ too. Giving Kylo exactly what he wants would have been dumb.

It's not the same as confronting Vader; killing Luke was not Vader's preference, and certainly not his priority at any point in the OT. If it had been, Luke wouldn't have lived long enough to help the Rebellion the way he did. Luke knows that. If you want to see Luke as a coward, I won't be able to change your mind with this explanation, and I respect that. I just hope you can see how "coward" can be replaced with "wise" when thinking about Luke's approach to helping his sister.

Sums it up pretty well.

After viewing the movie for the first time, i was in the camp of disappointed fans. Since the sequel was announced, i definitely expected Luke to be portrayed as a almighty Jedi Master able of the most incredible physical prowesses.
Slashing thru batallions of troopers, taking down walkers and fighters all by himself and his mastery of the Force. Needless to say i was disappointed Luke didn't even clashed lightasber with Kylo. Even now, i'm sure i would enjoy such a display of power on the big screen.
Yet, taking time to analyse TLJ and trying to figure out Rian Johnson and Co way of thinking, i believe what they tried to achieve remains totally loyal to the Star Wars mythology. I also believe that is what Mark Hamill meant when, at first, he said he disagreed fundamentally with Rian Johnson's take on Luke Skywalker.

Setting aside the whole state of mind Luke was in when we meet him on Ahch-to, how he felt about the Jedi failure and his own, i would just touch on Rian Johnson vison of Luke handling the situation in the end.
Surely Jedi are as much warriors as they are monks and Johnson could have offered fans what they expected, Luke Skywalker taking on the FO on Crait and facing Kylo. yet, he took (almost?) everyone by surprise having Luke saving the Resistance by using his Force abilities in the most spiritual way (The Jedi/light side way) instead of going the corporeal/brutal way (The Sith/Dark Side way) slashing his way through killing troopers and eventually dying at the hands of Kylo.

Remember, Jedi use the Force for Knowledge and defense, never for attack. With that in mind, Rian Johnson take on Luke and where he brings the character makes total sense... at least for me.

 

[Darth Lam]

Wrong character.

So easy to mix them up because they're twins!

 

[Smudger9]

Luke's beard color is a really weird thing. Why does he have a grey beard in reality, but a black beard in his force projection (like in the flashback to the Kylo attempted murder)? Can you "augment" your look as a force projection? Like you can give yourself a bit of a nose job and major abs?

It'd be great for Jedi dating. You show up at the restaurant as a force projection, and the woman is like "wow, he's hot!" but your physical self only shows up later in the evening (after a few wines and in the dark) when you definitely want to be physical you, not force projection you.

You've answered your question in your post. He appeared as he did, because that's what he looked like before he disappeared. That's either because Luke chose to project himself in that form for obvious reasons, or it's how the other characters have interpreted his force presence. I guess we'll have to wait for the novelisation for the true explanation.

 

[SilverStar17]

Why? Anything is possible now in the Rian Johnson universe, star wars now features.... Astral hologram projection, weaponized hyper space, flying through space with no spacecraft, hero Jedi Master Luke as a down on his luck loser, kylo and Rey are uber powerful with little to no training, astral projecting real tangible objects is a thing, Rey and snoke apparently have no story but they are just crazy powerful, dead Jedi ghosts can now set fires and interact tangibly in the real world, random children can channel the force with no training, pointless political commentary, force users can now Skype each other in their minds, etc etc....but yet the idea that Jedi Master Luke, an ace X wing pilot who worked extensively on spacecraft in his youth can make the necessary repairs to his own x wing is completely ridiculous?

Why is it the wrong character? Because Luke isn't the character that flew through space using the Force, that was Leia. Hence, wrong character. Didn't you pay attention?

So easy to mix them up because they're twins!

True!

Yep. He goes out on his own terms, in peace, becomes a legend, does something totally badass while doing so.. I thought it was pretty awesome.

In terms of what I wanted visually, I REALLY wanted to see ole greenie light up with the dark exile costume. But, in terms of story, I think part of the significance of using the Blue saber at the end was that 1. It's the saber he starts his journey with, fitting to end with it. 2. It's the weapon that Rey is trying to give him to take back, which he rejects twice prior. He finally "accepts it" in a way, and saves everyone.

I still think I'll grab this figure though.. I liked the scenes he had in it, especially when he was explaining the old Jedi to Rey, the short fight with Rey, or where he blew up that hut. Was pretty badass IMO.

And I guess, it wouldn't be accurate, but I could still pose him with a saber lol.

I personally like the way he went out as well, for the reasons you enumerated. Though I'd be lying if I said I wish it didn't happen until Episode IX and have the ST end with that. But I liked Luke in this film, as well as Kylo and Rey. That triangle is the only thing I found interesting about the film.

 

[Smash]

I personally like the way he went out as well, for the reasons you enumerated. Though I'd be lying if I said I wish it didn't happen until Episode IX and have the ST end with that. But I liked Luke in this film, as well as Kylo and Rey. That triangle is the only thing I found interesting about the film.

Yeah, same here. But I think, at least for me, I recognize that as another thing I WANT just because I want it. In terms of story, I see why they did it. Luke going out after doing the most badass thing ever is probably cooler than him doing the most badass thing ever, and then dying later with no real emotional charge attached to it. And he can still pop up as a ghost if they want in 9.

And frankly, I think the reality of it is that Luke steals the show whenever he is on screen - and everyone knows that. They need to focus on the new cast in this last movie. If they had 5-6 more movies to explore, then maybe they could wait and have that option to kill him later. But I think that it would have been hard to keep him alive and do justice to the character, while trying to shift the focus to the other cast members all in one film.

So yeah, there's some stuff I personally would have preferred, but I'm aware it would probably hurt the overall story, if that makes sense.

 

[SilverStar17]

Yeah, same here. But I think, at least for me, I recognize that as another thing I WANT just because I want it. In terms of story, I see why they did it. Luke going out after doing the most badass thing ever is probably cooler than him doing the most badass thing ever, and then dying later with no real emotional charge attached to it. And he can still pop up as a ghost if they want in 9.

And frankly, I think the reality of it is that Luke steals the show whenever he is on screen - and everyone knows that. They need to focus on the new cast in this last movie. If they had 5-6 more movies to explore, then maybe they could wait and have that option to kill him later. But I think that it would have been hard to keep him alive and do justice to the character, while trying to shift the focus to the other cast members all in one film.

So yeah, there's some stuff I personally would have preferred, but I'm aware it would probably hurt the overall story, if that makes sense.

Makes total sense indeed, and I concur with it.

It's just a minor personal preference that I wish he could have passed away at the conclusion of the trilogy, but as I've said before in this thread, I also realize this trilogy is meant to focus on a new set of characters and the OT characters in this trilogy are meant to be in a role that just helps advance the arcs of this new set of characters.

Plus, obviously Leia unfortunately may not have a physical presence in Episode IX, so I'm glad we got to see Luke go out helping his sister and her remaining group, as sort of his apology to her.

I'm not going to lie, I was on the verge of shedding a tear when Luke was sitting on that rock looking at the sunset, his body drained, and he became one with the Force with that dramatic SW theme being played as the score for that scene. Seeing a childhood character go out in the way he did was a bit moving.

 

[TonTon]

Yeah, same here. But I think, at least for me, I recognize that as another thing I WANT just because I want it. In terms of story, I see why they did it. Luke going out after doing the most badass thing ever is probably cooler than him doing the most badass thing ever, and then dying later with no real emotional charge attached to it. And he can still pop up as a ghost if they want in 9.

And frankly, I think the reality of it is that Luke steals the show whenever he is on screen - and everyone knows that. They need to focus on the new cast in this last movie. If they had 5-6 more movies to explore, then maybe they could wait and have that option to kill him later. But I think that it would have been hard to keep him alive and do justice to the character, while trying to shift the focus to the other cast members all in one film.

So yeah, there's some stuff I personally would have preferred, but I'm aware it would probably hurt the overall story, if that makes sense.

This is what's kind of weird to me. There's one movie left and they've relied so much on the older characters to carry the movies--and they were planning to do that in 9 with Leia supposedly. Poe was barely in the first movie, and the three characters have yet to have a single scene with the three of them together to the point that it's not even clear they would have . They've suddenly thrown in another character (Rose) and have failed to introduce any new interesting aliens/droid main characters outside of BB-8. Are these characters supposed to be done after this trilogy?

 

[Smash]

This is what's kind of weird to me. There's one movie left and they've relied so much on the older characters to carry the movies--and they were planning to do that in 9 with Leia supposedly. Poe was barely in the first movie, and the three characters have yet to have a single scene with the three of them together to the point that it's not even clear they would have . They've suddenly thrown in another character (Rose) and have failed to introduce any new interesting aliens/droid main characters outside of BB-8. Are these characters supposed to be done after this trilogy?

It's honestly a bit strange to me too, but I understand the mindset I guess.

I know people will disagree with me, but I honestly think part of the issue was giving too much focus to Han in VII. The script originally had Poe dying, so I believe that was the reason for his lack of screen time. But some rewrites and reducing the Han time to something more like Luke in TLJ could have allowed for more Rey/Poe/Finn.

I'm also pretty sure the main "trio" of the trilogy was always supposed to be Rey/Kylo/Finn. I'm not a fan of Rose, not particularly because I have any specific issues with her character, but just because it creates another thing for JJ to deal with in IX, and it's time that could have been spent on Poe/Finn or something.

We'll see how IX goes. I'm all for focusing on the main characters, but as long as it's together and not 4 different side stories. Kylo and Rey's story line is the most interesting to me in this trilogy. If they introduce 9 a few years after 8, and actually do a good job with it - it'll kind of be a bummer if they have to wrap up so quickly. I've been enjoying Kylo's character a lot, and just one more movie with him makes me sad lol

 

[SilverStar17]

Perhaps Rose will turn out to be the "Lando" of the ST.

 

[Smash]

Perhaps Rose will turn out to be the "Lando" of the ST.

Wearing Poe's clothes and flying his X-Wing while BB8 is like wtf lol

 

[KerotanFrog]

Wearing Poe's clothes and flying his X-Wing while BB8 is like wtf lol

Nah, I think BB-8 will just roll with it.

 

[okieh 2]

Did anybody find pics of Luke in final battle anywhere ? - no pic in the Visual Dictionary and also couldn‘t find one on google

 

[vito81]

Did anybody find pics of Luke in final battle anywhere ? - no pic in the Visual Dictionary and also couldn‘t find one on google

I've got a few, bad quality, let me know if I can post here because they're spoilers.... or not?

 

[okieh 2]

Could you send them via PM?
Would be great!

 

[vito81]

Could you send them via PM?
Would be great!

Here are them, sorry very bad quality...

Spoiler

 

[okieh 2]

thanks man ! - that's the Luke I would like to buy

 

[SmokeUpJohnny]

thanks man ! - that's the Luke I would like to buy

Ditto. I'm way more interested in this version than in Bitter, Hobo Luke (I see THAT look every day when I look in the mirror). ;-)

 

[Cap'n Cook]

Chuck Norris Luke FTW.