Hot Toys The Last Jedi Luke Skywalker 1/6 Figure

[SilverStar17]

Did it not?

You're the one who insinuated he can leave in it. Does that mean it worked?

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

You're the one who insinuated he can leave in it. Does that mean it worked?

Ok smart guy I will try to answer a question which cannot be answered. We don't get to know because Rian Johnson wrote a completely ridiculous, unrecognizable Luke Skywalker into TLJ. Even the actor himself has expressed this numerous times.

 

[SilverStar17]

Ok smart guy I will try to answer a question which cannot be answered. We don't get to know because Rian Johnson wrote a completely ridiculous, unrecognizable Luke Skywalker into TLJ. Even the actor himself has expressed this numerous times.

So you're saying he can leave in it, but saying you're not sure if it worked or not, correct?

The rest of your post is irrelevant to your initial claim.

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

So you're saying he can leave in it, but saying you're not sure if it worked or not, correct?

Best read what I wrote again, internet smart guy

 

[SilverStar17]

Best read what I wrote again, internet smart guy

Ok. We're back to square one. Your premise is Luke could have just left in his x-wing, that everyone needed to pay attention. Did it work?

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

Ok. We're back to square one. Your premise is Luke could have just left in his x-wing, that everyone needed to pay attention. Did it work?

I'm not going to repeat myself, I already answered the question.

 

[SilverStar17]

I'm not going to myself, I already answered the question.

So yes, you don't know. But yet you know that he can leave in it. Thanks.

 

[ajp4mgs]

The X-Wing working or not doesn't matter. Early in the movie, he asks Rey something along the lines of, "Do you expect me to be able to take down the First Order with a lightsaber?" That was establishing his thinking on how effective he could be against Kylo, Snoke, and company with the Resistance in the shape it's in. How he would leave the planet doesn't matter, because he knew that being there would be futile. I think he probably had decided to help once he saw R2's Leia hologram again. At that point, he could have gone in the Falcon. His choice not to was because he knew better.

Ultimately, whenever he realized that he needed to help, he also knew it needed to be in a different way. I saw it as smart instead of cowardly to do the hologram idea. Imagine if that was actually the real Luke instead: wouldn't Kylo still unleash the same firepower? The result wouldn't have helped Leia, or the Resistance. Luke used his mastery of the Force to take a smarter approach to helping Leia. If you look at it as a cowardly choice, you have to believe that going with Rey (or going in his X-Wing) would have been more effective. I don't see how it could have been. Kylo is obsessed with killing Luke, and we've known that since Force Awakens. He makes that pretty clear in TLJ too. Giving Kylo exactly what he wants would have been dumb.

It's not the same as confronting Vader; killing Luke was not Vader's preference, and certainly not his priority at any point in the OT. If it had been, Luke wouldn't have lived long enough to help the Rebellion the way he did. Luke knows that. If you want to see Luke as a coward, I won't be able to change your mind with this explanation, and I respect that. I just hope you can see how "coward" can be replaced with "wise" when thinking about Luke's approach to helping his sister.

 

[Dresky]

I'm no engineer, but a plane that's been sitting at the bottom of the ocean for maybe 15 years probably won't work anymore.

The Force can't fix circuitry that's been eaten by seasalt, even if he had R2's help.

 

[SilverStar17]

The X-Wing working or not doesn't matter. Early in the movie, he asks Rey something along the lines of, "Do you expect me to be able to take down the First Order with a lightsaber?" That was establishing his thinking on how effective he could be against Kylo, Snoke, and company with the Resistance in the shape it's in. How he would leave the planet doesn't matter, because he knew that being there would be futile. I think he probably had decided to help once he saw R2's Leia hologram again. At that point, he could have gone in the Falcon. His choice not to was because he knew better.

Ultimately, whenever he realized that he needed to help, he also knew it needed to be in a different way. I saw it as smart instead of cowardly to do the hologram idea. Imagine if that was actually the real Luke instead: wouldn't Kylo still unleash the same firepower? The result wouldn't have helped Leia, or the Resistance. Luke used his mastery of the Force to take a smarter approach to helping Leia. If you look at it as a cowardly choice, you have to believe that going with Rey (or going in his X-Wing) would have been more effective. I don't see how it could have been. Kylo is obsessed with killing Luke, and we've known that since Force Awakens. He makes that pretty clear in TLJ too. Giving Kylo exactly what he wants would have been dumb.

It's not the same as confronting Vader; killing Luke was not Vader's preference, and certainly not his priority at any point in the OT. If it had been, Luke wouldn't have lived long enough to help the Rebellion the way he did. Luke knows that. If you want to see Luke as a coward, I won't be able to change your mind with this explanation, and I respect that. I just hope you can see how "coward" can be replaced with "wise" when thinking about Luke's approach to helping his sister.

But, he had an x-wing. Didn't you pay attention?

 

[OneSixthRoy]

The X-Wing working or not doesn't matter. Early in the movie, he asks Rey something along the lines of, "Do you expect me to be able to take down the First Order with a lightsaber?" That was establishing his thinking on how effective he could be against Kylo, Snoke, and company with the Resistance in the shape it's in. How he would leave the planet doesn't matter, because he knew that being there would be futile. I think he probably had decided to help once he saw R2's Leia hologram again. At that point, he could have gone in the Falcon. His choice not to was because he knew better.

Ultimately, whenever he realized that he needed to help, he also knew it needed to be in a different way. I saw it as smart instead of cowardly to do the hologram idea. Imagine if that was actually the real Luke instead: wouldn't Kylo still unleash the same firepower? The result wouldn't have helped Leia, or the Resistance. Luke used his mastery of the Force to take a smarter approach to helping Leia. If you look at it as a cowardly choice, you have to believe that going with Rey (or going in his X-Wing) would have been more effective. I don't see how it could have been. Kylo is obsessed with killing Luke, and we've known that since Force Awakens. He makes that pretty clear in TLJ too. Giving Kylo exactly what he wants would have been dumb.

It's not the same as confronting Vader; killing Luke was not Vader's preference, and certainly not his priority at any point in the OT. If it had been, Luke wouldn't have lived long enough to help the Rebellion the way he did. Luke knows that. If you want to see Luke as a coward, I won't be able to change your mind with this explanation, and I respect that. I just hope you can see how "coward" can be replaced with "wise" when thinking about Luke's approach to helping his sister.

Good post

 

[SilverStar17]

Indeed it was.

 

[KerotanFrog]

The X-Wing working or not doesn't matter. Early in the movie, he asks Rey something along the lines of, "Do you expect me to be able to take down the First Order with a lightsaber?" That was establishing his thinking on how effective he could be against Kylo, Snoke, and company with the Resistance in the shape it's in. How he would leave the planet doesn't matter, because he knew that being there would be futile. I think he probably had decided to help once he saw R2's Leia hologram again. At that point, he could have gone in the Falcon. His choice not to was because he knew better.

Ultimately, whenever he realized that he needed to help, he also knew it needed to be in a different way. I saw it as smart instead of cowardly to do the hologram idea. Imagine if that was actually the real Luke instead: wouldn't Kylo still unleash the same firepower? The result wouldn't have helped Leia, or the Resistance. Luke used his mastery of the Force to take a smarter approach to helping Leia. If you look at it as a cowardly choice, you have to believe that going with Rey (or going in his X-Wing) would have been more effective. I don't see how it could have been. Kylo is obsessed with killing Luke, and we've known that since Force Awakens. He makes that pretty clear in TLJ too. Giving Kylo exactly what he wants would have been dumb.

It's not the same as confronting Vader; killing Luke was not Vader's preference, and certainly not his priority at any point in the OT. If it had been, Luke wouldn't have lived long enough to help the Rebellion the way he did. Luke knows that. If you want to see Luke as a coward, I won't be able to change your mind with this explanation, and I respect that. I just hope you can see how "coward" can be replaced with "wise" when thinking about Luke's approach to helping his sister.

Great post! Luke did what be could to save everyone. A final sacrifice. And he denied Kylo Ren the satisfaction of killing him. Double win.

 

[Cap'n Cook]

Great post ajp4mgs.

But, he had an x-wing. Didn't you pay attention?

 

[tjdavis1138]

I thought at first Chewie went back to get him after dropping Rey off at Kylo's place. I've only seen the movie once, maybe that doesn't work within the timeframe?

 

[McFly]

To me Luke's entire arc is about, how do we reconcile mythology and reality? In TFA, Luke Skywalker has become a legend, a myth. But the reality of his own journey from his perspective is steeped in impulsiveness and failure. Luke has retreated from the story because the stark reality of his own flaws (which he had throughout the OT, and which have been reinforced for him many times by his mentors) has created the impossibility of living up to that legend. Rey turning up, offering him back his father's lightsaber – that's his worst nightmare, the myth catching up with him. So of course he's going to reject it.

Spoiler

But the reason why TLJ worked so well for me was, Luke realises that he can deliver on the legend – face down the entire First Order with a lightsaber, confront Kylo and achieve a victory of sorts (saving the lives of his sister and the remnants of the Resistance) – but he has to "reach out" with the Force, the thing he's come to distrust most because of the ways it's amplified his own weaknesses, to achieve it. This communion brings him the peace he needs – he can finally go out with both sides of his nature, who he really is and the myth he has become, reconciled. For me it doesn't conflict at all with the character we saw in the OT - he's still fundamentally ruled by his impulses, not all of them good. The kind of impulses that make you think about killing your own nephew in his sleep because you're afraid of what he might become if you fail – even if ultimately you're one of the good guys and you're not going to act on that impulse. It wasn't the arc that I imagined, but I love it a whole lot. Just my 2c worth.

 

[Sithblade]

That's because he was conceived by Disney and Johnson from start to finish as a defeated, depressed hermit who had given up. If Liam Neeson can do it at the same age, then Hamill could have worked out and kicked *ss. Instead they gave him hobo clothes, told him to grow a grey beard (well, sometimes black and sometimes grey[emoji38]) and act like they don't have Prozac in the SW galaxy. Or... maybe that's what the sea cow udder was for...[emoji38]

You're mistaking what Hamill was told to do by director and script with what Hamill was actually capable of.

I thought Luke would be more like a Qui Gon Jinn type of Jedi in the sequels. More doing the right thing/maverick style which didn't necessarily go along with the old Jedi code.

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[Smash]

Great post! Luke did what be could to save everyone. A final sacrifice. And he denied Kylo Ren the satisfaction of killing him. Double win.

Yep. He goes out on his own terms, in peace, becomes a legend, does something totally badass while doing so.. I thought it was pretty awesome.

In terms of what I wanted visually, I REALLY wanted to see ole greenie light up with the dark exile costume. But, in terms of story, I think part of the significance of using the Blue saber at the end was that 1. It's the saber he starts his journey with, fitting to end with it. 2. It's the weapon that Rey is trying to give him to take back, which he rejects twice prior. He finally "accepts it" in a way, and saves everyone.

I still think I'll grab this figure though.. I liked the scenes he had in it, especially when he was explaining the old Jedi to Rey, the short fight with Rey, or where he blew up that hut. Was pretty badass IMO.

And I guess, it wouldn't be accurate, but I could still pose him with a saber lol.

 

[RandomHero]

The X-Wing working or not doesn't matter. Early in the movie, he asks Rey something along the lines of, "Do you expect me to be able to take down the First Order with a lightsaber?" That was establishing his thinking on how effective he could be against Kylo, Snoke, and company with the Resistance in the shape it's in. How he would leave the planet doesn't matter, because he knew that being there would be futile. I think he probably had decided to help once he saw R2's Leia hologram again. At that point, he could have gone in the Falcon. His choice not to was because he knew better.

Ultimately, whenever he realized that he needed to help, he also knew it needed to be in a different way. I saw it as smart instead of cowardly to do the hologram idea. Imagine if that was actually the real Luke instead: wouldn't Kylo still unleash the same firepower? The result wouldn't have helped Leia, or the Resistance. Luke used his mastery of the Force to take a smarter approach to helping Leia. If you look at it as a cowardly choice, you have to believe that going with Rey (or going in his X-Wing) would have been more effective. I don't see how it could have been. Kylo is obsessed with killing Luke, and we've known that since Force Awakens. He makes that pretty clear in TLJ too. Giving Kylo exactly what he wants would have been dumb.

It's not the same as confronting Vader; killing Luke was not Vader's preference, and certainly not his priority at any point in the OT. If it had been, Luke wouldn't have lived long enough to help the Rebellion the way he did. Luke knows that. If you want to see Luke as a coward, I won't be able to change your mind with this explanation, and I respect that. I just hope you can see how "coward" can be replaced with "wise" when thinking about Luke's approach to helping his sister.

Finally, some sense about Luke.

 

[Darth Lam]

I'm no engineer, but a plane that's been sitting at the bottom of the ocean for maybe 15 years probably won't work anymore.

The Force can't fix circuitry that's been eaten by seasalt, even if he had R2's help.

Why would he even need the X-wing? I for one was excited to see Luke fly through space using the Force. Because that's a thing. Make a Space Luke, Hot Toys!