Hot Toys The Last Jedi Luke Skywalker 1/6 Figure

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Totally agree. I can certainly understand the frustration of those who wanted to see him and Rey going off on some epic, action-packed adventure together, but I thought the direction Rian chose was far more interesting and probably allowed for a much more complex performance from Hamill than we would have gotten otherwise. And I just loved seeing a different side to Luke and seeing how different he had really become over time.

Anyway, I'm definitely looking forward to this figure.

I was in the camp that, on the way to VIII, wanted Luke to do some badass stuff, kill all the Knights of Ren, green lightsaber, etc. But I think, while that would have been cool, what we got meant more to me anyway.

For one thing, I did get the super badass Luke that I wanted at the end, and I was reminded about the difference in how a Jedi could handle things vs a sith for example. Like, I wanted him to go Rogue One Vader on some people initially, but that wouldn't fit the character or the Jedi as a whole. He did the most badass thing we've seen any Jedi do and saved everyone without hurting someone.

The biggest takeaway with Luke in TLJ for me was that it's okay to fail, and never too late to come back, even for a hero like Luke. It's something that we hear as adults a lot but for me it doesn't really sink in, I guess. Seeing my childhood hero be the one to fail and give up, but come back and be a legend was meaningful. Whether it be a career change, divorce, family deaths, depression, whatever - it's a reminder that it's okay for adults and people even in their 40s/50s to feel that way, and that they can still come back from it.

That's just my two cents, but it's more meaningful in the long run than I think it would have been otherwise. I don't think I could have related if Luke was just force godmaster never-done-any-wrong after ROTJ.

 

[QuiGonFishing]

Luke? Oh yes. That's what they used to call me. Luke Skywalker. That was my name.

I am Luke Forcewalker and I come back to you now, at the turn of the tide.

Ha! Perfect! No one batted an eye when it was Gandalf. Why not Luke the Off-White/Less Black!

 

[QuiGonFishing]

Totally agree. I can certainly understand the frustration of those who wanted to see him and Rey going off on some epic, action-packed adventure together, but I thought the direction Rian chose was far more interesting and probably allowed for a much more complex performance from Hamill than we would have gotten otherwise. And I just loved seeing a different side to Luke and seeing how different he had really become over time.

Anyway, I'm definitely looking forward to this figure.

Agreed. Luke and his character arc was one of the very few things I liked about TLJ.



Interesting theory, but I’d tread carefully with that. I can very easily see trying to do too much with that out of desperation to keep Luke Skywalker alive in the saga, that it’d feel more like an MCU tactic where nobody dies.

I personally thought Luke’s demise at the end of TLJ was fitting for the character. His journey in life concluded exactly how it began, with him being a hopeful farm boy staring at a binary sunset, to him being an old Jedi Master once again filled with the same hope he had as that farm boy, staring at the same binary sunset with the binary sunset score playing.

I was in the camp that, on the way to VIII, wanted Luke to do some badass stuff, kill all the Knights of Ren, green lightsaber, etc. But I think, while that would have been cool, what we got meant more to me anyway.

For one thing, I did get the super badass Luke that I wanted at the end, and I was reminded about the difference in how a Jedi could handle things vs a sith for example. Like, I wanted him to go Rogue One Vader on some people initially, but that wouldn't fit the character or the Jedi as a whole. He did the most badass thing we've seen any Jedi do and saved everyone without hurting someone.

The biggest takeaway with Luke in TLJ for me was that it's okay to fail, and never too late to come back, even for a hero like Luke. It's something that we hear as adults a lot but for me it doesn't really sink in, I guess. Seeing my childhood hero be the one to fail and give up, but come back and be a legend was meaningful. Whether it be a career change, divorce, family deaths, depression, whatever - it's a reminder that it's okay for adults and people even in their 40s/50s to feel that way, and that they can still come back from it.

That's just my two cents, but it's more meaningful in the long run than I think it would have been otherwise. I don't think I could have related if Luke was just force godmaster never-done-any-wrong after ROTJ.

Believe me, I understand and appreciate the complexities of the character you all appreciated, and I appreciated many of those complexities myself. I think it was exactly appropriate for Luke to feel the way he did at the beginning of the film, and his reluctance to, in his mind, corrupt a new promising Force Sensitive student with his clearly lacking technique of Jedi training.

And remember, he did consent to give her a taste of that training (perhaps even with an eye towards fully training her if she showed any promise or inspired him anew), but when Luke got a glimpse of just how powerful Rey's potential was, THAT'S when he really ran screaming away, fearful that he could create yet another Kylo Ren.

But the place where it always breaks down for me is that even if Luke is unable to find it within himself because of his failures, he is The New Hope. Someone, Yoda, Ben, Qui-Gon......Leia should have been able to reach him, stir him, re-awaken him to take on that mantel.

You could easily argue that he gave New Hope to The Resistance in his last actions to protect them, and we may have to live with that as the answer. And maybe his function as The New Hope was never to be a teacher, or even a soldier, but instead TO BE The New Hope itself. Maybe Luke's sacrifice will actually be the spark to light the flame that burns the First Order down - through Rey and Finn and Poe to defeat Kylo and the First Order, and through Broom Boy and un-named others to build it all back.

But as a firmly entrenched lover of the OT, the New Hope IS Luke, no matter what some new fangled Disney inductees want to foist on me. So even if Luke's place was not to be a teacher or a warrior, Luke HIMSELF, alive and in person, needs to be present, in the flesh, to see this last Lucas inspired trilogy entry to conclusion. THEN, and only then, will Disney, or whomever else owns the franchise, be free to take the saga to another place and let brand new characters lead the way.

So that's the hill my fandom is prepared to die on. Take all the creative license you want after the three Roman Numeral Trilogies are complete, and I'll be there cheering them on. But the PT/OT/ST belongs to a baby, and boy, and a man named Luke Skywalker...

 

[SilverStar17]

I was in the camp that, on the way to VIII, wanted Luke to do some badass stuff, kill all the Knights of Ren, green lightsaber, etc. But I think, while that would have been cool, what we got meant more to me anyway.

For one thing, I did get the super badass Luke that I wanted at the end, and I was reminded about the difference in how a Jedi could handle things vs a sith for example. Like, I wanted him to go Rogue One Vader on some people initially, but that wouldn't fit the character or the Jedi as a whole. He did the most badass thing we've seen any Jedi do and saved everyone without hurting someone.

The biggest takeaway with Luke in TLJ for me was that it's okay to fail, and never too late to come back, even for a hero like Luke. It's something that we hear as adults a lot but for me it doesn't really sink in, I guess. Seeing my childhood hero be the one to fail and give up, but come back and be a legend was meaningful. Whether it be a career change, divorce, family deaths, depression, whatever - it's a reminder that it's okay for adults and people even in their 40s/50s to feel that way, and that they can still come back from it.

That's just my two cents, but it's more meaningful in the long run than I think it would have been otherwise. I don't think I could have related if Luke was just force godmaster never-done-any-wrong after ROTJ.

My sentiments as well regarding Luke.

Though to touch on your “without hurting someone” remark, I’ve personally never really bought into the “no kill under any circumstance” as a guideline from a morality standpoint with a lot of these characters, because I don’t think that if you merely defend yourself against evil that is engaging in proactive violence to try and hurt/kill you or others, that it means you’re immoral if you defend yourself or others against their actions, or that you’re going to turn out just like them. Of course killing or any sort of violence is always the last option for anything, but if it comes to that, the one who made that call is the person who decided to make themselves a threat by engaging in proactive violence against others after being given an opportunity to cease their actions.

Point is if Luke were to indeed engage Kylo in lightsaber combat with the intent of striking him down in a fair fight in order to defend others against his engaging in proactive violence to harm others, I wouldn’t have been averse to that. I like to think that the “Jedi way” is merely not striking down an assailant after that threat has already been neutralized, such as the way Anakin did with Dooku in RotS, and the way Luke refused to do with Vader in RotJ, as well as the way Kenobi didn’t finish off Anakin in RotS out of malice after neutralizing him.

I was happy with the ending we got with Luke though, because he did indeed neutralize the threat.

 

[QuiGonFishing]

My sentiments as well regarding Luke.

Though to touch on your “without hurting someone” remark, I’ve personally never really bought into the “no kill under any circumstance” as a guideline from a morality standpoint with a lot of these characters, because I don’t think that if you merely defend yourself against evil that is engaging in proactive violence to try and hurt/kill you or others, that it means you’re immoral if you defend yourself or others against their actions, or that you’re going to turn out just like them. Of course killing or any sort of violence is always the last option for anything, but if it comes to that, the one who made that call is the person who decided to make themselves a threat by engaging in proactive violence against others after being given an opportunity to cease their actions.

Point is if Luke were to indeed engage Kylo in lightsaber combat with the intent of striking him down in a fair fight in order to defend others against his engaging in proactive violence to harm others, I wouldn’t have been averse to that. I like to think that the “Jedi way” is merely not striking down an assailant after that threat has already been neutralized, such as the way Anakin did with Dooku in RotS, and the way Luke refused to do with Vader in RotJ, as well as the way Kenobi didn’t finish off Anakin in RotS out of malice after neutralizing him.

I was happy with the ending we got with Luke though, because he did indeed neutralize the threat.

Agreed. Very well said. And that sentiment goes a long way. Not necessarily confined to works of fiction.

And now, I'll step aside while you finish writing your response to my last post above

 

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Believe me, I understand and appreciate the complexities of the character you all appreciated, and I appreciated many of those complexities myself. I think it was exactly appropriate for Luke to feel the way he did at the beginning of the film, and his reluctance to, in his mind, corrupt a new promising Force Sensitive student with his clearly lacking technique of Jedi training.

And remember, he did consent to give her a taste of that training (perhaps even with an eye towards fully training her if she showed any promise or inspired him anew), but when Luke got a glimpse of just how powerful Rey's potential was, THAT'S when he really ran screaming away, fearful that he could create yet another Kylo Ren.

But the place where it always breaks down for me is that even if Luke is unable to find it within himself because of his failures, he is The New Hope. Someone, Yoda, Ben, Qui-Gon......Leia should have been able to reach him, stir him, re-awaken him to take on that mantel.

You could easily argue that he gave New Hope to The Resistance in his last actions to protect them, and we may have to live with that as the answer. And maybe his function as The New Hope was never to be a teacher, or even a soldier, but instead TO BE The New Hope itself. Maybe Luke's sacrifice will actually be the spark to light the flame that burns the First Order down - through Rey and Finn and Poe to defeat Kylo and the First Order, and through Broom Boy and un-named others to build it all back.

But as a firmly entrenched lover of the OT, the New Hope IS Luke, no matter what some new fangled Disney inductees want to foist on me. So even if Luke's place was not to be a teacher or a warrior, Luke HIMSELF, alive and in person, needs to be present, in the flesh, to see this last Lucas inspired trilogy entry to conclusion. THEN, and only then, will Disney, or whomever else owns the franchise, be free to take the saga to another place and let brand new characters lead the way.

So that's the hill my fandom is prepared to die on. Take all the creative license you want after the three Roman Numeral Trilogies are complete, and I'll be there cheering them on. But the PT/OT/ST belongs to a baby, and boy, and a man named Luke Skywalker...

I totally get that point of view man. If it makes sense... I really loved what TLJ did with Luke, while wishing he could be alive in IX. I think one of the things for me is that the ending Luke got, especially with the twin suns and the scene he had with Yoda and everything - that was all really great for me and I really don't think Colin or JJ would have given us something that fulfilling (to me). So, in some ways I'm okay with him having that closure since it was done well in my opinion.

That said, if it could have been that Rian was able to do that for IX somehow exactly the way it happened, I probably would have preferred that. While I am excited to see Luke in IX regardless of his force ghost status, I'd love it if he were "alive" for IX.

I don't know if any of that makes any sense haha, but I'm cool with what happened while wishing Luke could have been there one more time. If Luke ends up having a role that carries some kind of emotional weight in IX and isn't just Obi-Wan popping up for 2 seconds in ROTJ to tell Luke he made out with his sister - I think I'll be okay with it.

Either way, I want a the next Jedi Academy to have a giant Luke statue. lol

 

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My sentiments as well regarding Luke.

Though to touch on your “without hurting someone” remark, I’ve personally never really bought into the “no kill under any circumstance” as a guideline from a morality standpoint with a lot of these characters, because I don’t think that if you merely defend yourself against evil that is engaging in proactive violence to try and hurt/kill you or others, that it means you’re immoral if you defend yourself or others against their actions, or that you’re going to turn out just like them. Of course killing or any sort of violence is always the last option for anything, but if it comes to that, the one who made that call is the person who decided to make themselves a threat by engaging in proactive violence against others after being given an opportunity to cease their actions.

Point is if Luke were to indeed engage Kylo in lightsaber combat with the intent of striking him down in a fair fight in order to defend others against his engaging in proactive violence to harm others, I wouldn’t have been averse to that. I like to think that the “Jedi way” is merely not striking down an assailant after that threat has already been neutralized, such as the way Anakin did with Dooku in RotS, and the way Luke refused to do with Vader in RotJ, as well as the way Kenobi didn’t finish off Anakin in RotS out of malice after neutralizing him.

I was happy with the ending we got with Luke though, because he did indeed neutralize the threat.

Oh for sure! I have no issue with violence as a defense with a jedi or anything at all. I guess what I was trying to say is that it was more impressive to me, and made me think about what Yoda said, that Luke found a way to do it without needing to hurt anyone.

 

[davejames]

As much as I would have loved to see him continue, for me it's only the OT that is truly Luke's story, as we followed him from simple farmboy to Jedi Knight who helped to defeat the Empire. The events of the ST are more of an epilogue for the character in my mind, where we see him pass on the mantle to Rey and a new generation.

 

[SilverStar17]

Agreed. Very well said. And that sentiment goes a long way. Not necessarily confined to works of fiction.

Thanks.

And agreed that it goes a long way, beyond just works of fiction.

I totally get that point of view man. If it makes sense... I really loved what TLJ did with Luke, while wishing he could be alive in IX. I think one of the things for me is that the ending Luke got, especially with the twin suns and the scene he had with Yoda and everything - that was all really great for me and I really don't think Colin or JJ would have given us something that fulfilling (to me). So, in some ways I'm okay with him having that closure since it was done well in my opinion.

That said, if it could have been that Rian was able to do that for IX somehow exactly the way it happened, I probably would have preferred that. While I am excited to see Luke in IX regardless of his force ghost status, I'd love it if he were "alive" for IX.

I don't know if any of that makes any sense haha, but I'm cool with what happened while wishing Luke could have been there one more time. If Luke ends up having a role that carries some kind of emotional weight in IX and isn't just Obi-Wan popping up for 2 seconds in ROTJ to tell Luke he made out with his sister - I think I'll be okay with it.

Either way, I want a the next Jedi Academy to have a giant Luke statue. lol

Oh for sure! I have no issue with violence as a defense with a jedi or anything at all. I guess what I was trying to say is that it was more impressive to me, and made me think about what Yoda said, that Luke found a way to do it without needing to hurt anyone.

Agreed. While I do wish Luke was alive for IX, I did like the ending they gave him and thought it was very fitting for the character.

 

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As much as I would have loved to see him continue, for me it's only the OT that is truly Luke's story, as we followed him from simple farmboy to Jedi Knight who helped to defeat the Empire. The events of the ST are more of an epilogue for the character in my mind, where we see him pass on the mantle to Rey and a new generation.

This is kind of the reason that I want more movies after IX with the new cast. I'm sure many, many, manyyyy people disagree. But, this trilogy feels more of a transition than it does their trilogy. With the writing completely focused on them (and less nostalgia factored into the plot), I really feel like they could shine with some movies of their own.

 

[davejames]

This is kind of the reason that I want more movies after IX with the new cast. I'm sure many, many, manyyyy people disagree. But, this trilogy feels more of a transition than it does their trilogy. With the writing completely focused on them (and less nostalgia factored into the plot), I really feel like they could shine with some movies of their own.

Yeah a part of me does wish that Rey, Finn, and Poe could have got the same spotlight during this trilogy that Han, Luke and Leia got in the OT. You could see Abrams setting that up a bit in TFA, and hopefully we'll get to see more of it in the next movie.

 

[SilverStar17]

In all seriousness though, as others have stated, I too am looking forward to this figure. Mainly because I really want to use the Ahch-To dio base that came with TFA Luke with it. I think that will look really nifty.

I’m thinking of picking up a second Ahch-To dio base for Training Armor Wonder Woman as well. The landscape of Ahch-To is kind of similar to Themyscira.

 

[ajp4mgs]

Believe me, I understand and appreciate the complexities of the character you all appreciated, and I appreciated many of those complexities myself. I think it was exactly appropriate for Luke to feel the way he did at the beginning of the film, and his reluctance to, in his mind, corrupt a new promising Force Sensitive student with his clearly lacking technique of Jedi training.

And remember, he did consent to give her a taste of that training (perhaps even with an eye towards fully training her if she showed any promise or inspired him anew), but when Luke got a glimpse of just how powerful Rey's potential was, THAT'S when he really ran screaming away, fearful that he could create yet another Kylo Ren.

But the place where it always breaks down for me is that even if Luke is unable to find it within himself because of his failures, he is The New Hope. Someone, Yoda, Ben, Qui-Gon......Leia should have been able to reach him, stir him, re-awaken him to take on that mantel.

You could easily argue that he gave New Hope to The Resistance in his last actions to protect them, and we may have to live with that as the answer. And maybe his function as The New Hope was never to be a teacher, or even a soldier, but instead TO BE The New Hope itself. Maybe Luke's sacrifice will actually be the spark to light the flame that burns the First Order down - through Rey and Finn and Poe to defeat Kylo and the First Order, and through Broom Boy and un-named others to build it all back.

But as a firmly entrenched lover of the OT, the New Hope IS Luke, no matter what some new fangled Disney inductees want to foist on me. So even if Luke's place was not to be a teacher or a warrior, Luke HIMSELF, alive and in person, needs to be present, in the flesh, to see this last Lucas inspired trilogy entry to conclusion. THEN, and only then, will Disney, or whomever else owns the franchise, be free to take the saga to another place and let brand new characters lead the way.

So that's the hill my fandom is prepared to die on. Take all the creative license you want after the three Roman Numeral Trilogies are complete, and I'll be there cheering them on. But the PT/OT/ST belongs to a baby, and boy, and a man named Luke Skywalker...

Fantastic post! As far as the last sentence, I just can't see the whole 9-part Skywalker Saga as merely a Luke saga. I see it as being about the family, their role in a galactic struggle, and especially about their enduring legacy. The PT was about the father; the OT was about the son; and the ST is about what that resulting Skywalker legacy will end up being.

In the PT, we see Anakin torn between the light and the dark. The more powerful he became, the closer he kept getting to serving the dark side. His personal destiny was always going to be critical to the fate of the entire galaxy; and he ultimately chose to follow the dark path.

In the OT, we see Luke (and Leia to a lesser extent) discovering a connection to the Skywalker legacy. As Luke himself grew more powerful, he would face some of the same choices his father faced. Luke rejected his father's path. While Anakin's dark past could not be erased, the Skywalker story didn't need to keep repeating it, or be defined by it. Luke was indeed the "new hope," and he restored (or redefined) how the Skywalkers would influence the destiny of an entire galaxy.

In the ST, we've been watching Kylo take it upon himself to reclaim the Skywalker legacy as that of Vader (dark) rather than that of Luke (light). What happens to Kylo in Episode IX will determine the ultimate direction of the Skywalker legacy. Light? Or dark? And that outcome will dictate the direction of the galaxy. Peace? Or tyranny? Luke (maybe Leia somehow; and perhaps even Anakin) might still influence the outcome to determine whether the Skywalker legacy ends with the hope from light, or with the fear from darkness.

It's still very much a Skywalker saga, but it's not necessarily all about Luke. For those of us who grew up with the OT, it is indeed easy to believe that Luke should always be the centerpiece. But for those who grew up with the PT, Luke may not be as central; it's more about Anakin/Vader. And now some are growing up with the ST where both Anakin and Luke had already paved the way for Ben/Kylo to decide how to use his immense Skywalker power to define how the family legacy will ultimately shape the future of the galaxy. And if Rey isn't a Skywalker by birth, her role may also still end up being crucial in how their legacy will be forever defined. Her story with Kylo is obviously unfinished.

Luke means a great deal to my generation, but the Skywalker saga has already had one third of the story play out without Luke in it (until baby version at the end of ROTS). It can be seen as just as much about Anakin. And, more generally, it's about whether it's Luke's legacy or Anakin/Vader's legacy that will win out.

 

[SilverStar17]

 

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In all seriousness though, as others have stated, I too am looking forward to this figure. Mainly because I really want to use the Ahch-To dio base that came with TFA Luke with it. I think that will look really nifty.

I’m thinking of picking up a second Ahch-To dio base for Training Armor Wonder Woman as well. The landscape of Ahch-To is kind of similar to Themyscira.

Same here. Planning on having Luke on an Ahch-To base, with Resistance Rey standing to his side.

 

[cerealkeller]

I was in the camp that, on the way to VIII, wanted Luke to do some badass stuff, kill all the Knights of Ren, green lightsaber, etc. But I think, while that would have been cool, what we got meant more to me anyway.

For one thing, I did get the super badass Luke that I wanted at the end, and I was reminded about the difference in how a Jedi could handle things vs a sith for example. Like, I wanted him to go Rogue One Vader on some people initially, but that wouldn't fit the character or the Jedi as a whole. He did the most badass thing we've seen any Jedi do and saved everyone without hurting someone.

The biggest takeaway with Luke in TLJ for me was that it's okay to fail, and never too late to come back, even for a hero like Luke. It's something that we hear as adults a lot but for me it doesn't really sink in, I guess. Seeing my childhood hero be the one to fail and give up, but come back and be a legend was meaningful. Whether it be a career change, divorce, family deaths, depression, whatever - it's a reminder that it's okay for adults and people even in their 40s/50s to feel that way, and that they can still come back from it.

That's just my two cents, but it's more meaningful in the long run than I think it would have been otherwise. I don't think I could have related if Luke was just force godmaster never-done-any-wrong after ROTJ.

This right here is why TLJ is so meaningful for someone like me who grew up looking at my heroes as infallible which made them less relatable over time. Like in life when you stumble, you feel like you failed and it is hard to think that you can come back. Having a look at my childhood hero not only failing but blaming what happened on the Jedi teachings instead of himself was hard to see at first. But having Yoda come back to teach him one more lesson, to not only accept his failures but use them to teach the next generation a better way was a far more interesting theme then having Luke instantly joining Rey to take down the First Order.

To have Luke save the day by only providing a distraction for the new heroes to escape was genius. This provides a look at the most Jedi-like behavior we have ever seen. I don't know how Rey could possibly use this example to actually defeat Kylo Ren, but it was a great message that sometimes to save the day you must start by saving what is good anyway possible.




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[chemicals]

Dressed like a hobbit. Would not want on the shelf.

Get a life.

 

[pixletwin]

Get a life.

I don’t understand. Your response implies he said something disrespectful to you. Care to enlighten us why you give such a sweeping pronouncement?

 

[Protozaius]

Couldn't be anything directed at him personally... he wasn't even a member of this forum when Evilface said it. You have to go all the way back to the first page of this thread nearly a year ago to find it.

It's been a year... for all he knows EF has found a life.

 

[LinktheJedi]

hopefully we hear something soon about this figure, it's supposed to be releasing within this window, yet no news or display appearances of this figure whatsoever