How Evil Is Too Evil: Collectibles and Nazis

[karamazov80]

I don't disagree with most of what thecapn says, but Hitler was evil, pure and simple. The worst kind of evil. Without the after-effects of WWI on the German economy, could he have come to power? Probably not. But that doesn't excuse what he or the Nazis did in any way. And of course, not all Nazis were murderers or evil. But many were, and though it may have seemed like no choice to join a regime that did what they did or risk yourself and/or your family being killed, it doesn't take away from what they fought for and stood for. They still deserve blame. I don't know of a perspective you can take on the holocaust that makes it morally justifiable.

 

[ProgMatinee]

There is right and wrong and moral choices to be held accountable for in the afterlife, IMO. But I don't necessarily expect or trust people will live by them while on earth. Everyone is a different shade of imperfect, some being so far to the evil side its disgusting and they should be held as pariahs of humanity by not just those on the "victors" side and to write it off as "they're just being human" opens the door for more extreme evil IMO.

 

[Skiman]

There is right and wrong and moral choices to be held accountable for in the afterlife, IMO. But I don't necessarily expect or trust people will live by them while on earth. Everyone is a different shade of imperfect, some being so far to the evil side its disgusting and they should be held as pariahs of humanity by not just those on the "victors" side and to write it off as "they're just being human" opens the door for more extreme evil IMO.

That did it...

 

[Voorhees27]

I smell religion talk, Dave ......... in before the lock then?

 

[ProgMatinee]

thats why i put IMO. it don't need to go farther than that. I just said it to give context that I know here on earth everyone is imperfect so I don't really expect people who are out there thinking about themselves to necessarily stop to think whether its moral or not.

That EXPLAINS their behavior, but doesn't EXCUSE it.

 

[Skiman]

I smell religion talk, Dave ......... in before the lock then?

thats why i put IMO.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

Tom Cruise was a good Nazi.

 

[thecapn]

I guess I did go offtopic a bit, didn't I?

When it comes to toys, what I mean is history is history, and I would never tell people they should or shouldn't display whatever they want. I would hope that by displaying any historical figure that they make an effort to learn about them, both the good and bad things, and make their own judgements aside from the black and white we're spoonfed in school. And stick by your judgements, regardless of who tells you you're wrong, because if there's no discussion in the world, then there's no compromise and no change.

And here I go sidetracking again...ha!

As far as Hitler goes, he was crazy, no doubt, and I don't mean to make him any less so. I was really referring to the average German person who had no food, struggling to get by who got swept up in propaganda. I don't mean to put Hitler in a "good" light by any means. I'm just saying there's always shades of gray, and making definitive statements about good and bad are all relative. I've been to the concentration camps, read stories of survivors, threw up at the sights and sounds...the Nazis did terrible, terrible things, no doubt. But it's history. Not some movie you can point to and say "good guy," "bad guy," "person to be idolized" and "person to be villified." It's history. Not Indiana Jones!

Plus, as I made reference to before, where do you really place the blame for Hitler? On Germany? I don't think so...I think you place the blame on all the countries who worked on the treaty of Versailles and destroyed the German people. Again, Hitler was awful...but ALL the Allies...the U.S. included...can share the blame for him. Gray. All shades of gray.

And thank you HairlessWookiee, perfect example of what I'm talking about

 

[Valfar]

Few years back, Plan B pulled their Nazi figures from retail.There is a little read up on it in the link below.I remember people causing a stink about here in Canada and it was all over the news for a day or two.

https://www.oafe.net/articulation/0411.php

 

[Kuzeh]

I agree with TheCapn's post for the most part...

But what does any of that have to do with collecting toys?

It's in the Other Topics section?...

 

[The Ween]

I more creeped out by the fanatic TDK collectors than anyone who would collect Nazi figures.

Or Michael Jackson collectors.

Or maybe even Avatar collectors soon.

This is one of my absolute favorite figures I own:

I'm hoping Hot Toys comes out with one. I want one!!!

These dio's kick loads of ass.

These are probally the best dio's done ever in 1/6th scale.

more--> https://vincesgallery.smugmug.com/Hobbies


And P.S don't get the SA mixed up with SS, SS did most of the real slaughter.

OMG......that is awesome! I'm sending that link to my brother. His hobby is trains.

 

[King Darkness]

It's in the Other Topics section?...

Dont just wonder into a thread and quote me when you have no clue as to whats going on. The thread is about collecting questionable items. Read the title.

 

[Kuzeh]

Or Michael Jackson collectors.

Nothing wrong with that actually...

 

[King Darkness]

Or Michael Jackson collectors.

Or maybe even Avatar collectors soon.

Espically those MJ collectors.

 

[Kuzeh]

 

[Skiman]

 

[King Darkness]

You like posting that picture a lot Kuzeh, was the Wacko Jackos ultimate goal with all his plastic surgeries? He got pretty close.

 

[Kuzeh]

You like posting that picture a lot Kuzeh, was the Wacko Jackos ultimate goal with all his plastic surgeries? He got pretty close.

Jeez man... relax... I was just kidding...

 

[hoodonit00]

About time you posted a picture. Always wanted to know if my perception of you was right. Yup, pretty close.

 

[Station]

I get crap from time to time for being a red skull fan. Frankly, I don't get it. I'm in no way a nazi sympathizer and i think what they did was despicable and sub-human. Barring that, they make a damn good villain, the best villains in my opinion and it just makes the red skull that much more evil and bad ass. He's like Kathy Lee Gifford, you love to hate him!