Hulk PF vs Hulk Maquette

[filip629]

still trying to beat that horse?

Not at all. If you like the PF, more power to you. However, the name of the thread is Hulk PF vs Hulk maquette. I was just giving my opinion on the topic. It does strike me as thread related.

 

[bearmodel]

The PF looks like he's just lumbering foward awkwardly.

DON'T YOU EVER CRITICIZE THE PF AGAIN OR I WILL SMASH YOU!!!!!!!

I see your point but when I look at the PF I see him saying:

"there you are....I'm going to hurt you"

And the maquete says:

"I'm pissed...get out of my way!!!"

There are good things and bad things about both but the Maquette seems massive and the PF is just so powerful looking....

Can't wait to see the full reveal of Hulk Maquette.....and price....

Cheers

Bear

 

[cr`]

pardon my late reply. movie vs comic is always a fun debate... but i'll try to further state my case as to why movie > comic.

Well I did not know that the reviews are up at RT. Good to here it's getting love. However just because the critics like it does not mean it's good. I tend to think it will be.

true, does not mean it's good. it means it will be glorious! look, critics are a hard bunch to please - when you see hundreds of film in any given year, you have to be. and then they have their own standards by which to judge a film. they can see cracks and flaws the casual fanboy might not even see. so for them to be almost universal(only 1 rotten review out of 39, so far) in their love for this film, a superhero film, it's really saying something.

As for your test. I think it depends on weather or not you read comics because everyone you mentioned I think of the comic versions first. Except Blade. Never read him in the comics so yeah I think on Snipes. But when I think HULK, Thor, Spider-man, BATMAN, Cap. America. I always have the comic version pop up. Because that is how I first was introduced and they tend to look better in the comics. Only Iron Man is basically the same looking from Comic to film (though there are plenty of differences)

Now 20 years ago I would have thought of the Reeves Superman because that was the only version I knew. Now I picture the comic.

I think you are way off about the films versions having an advantage. To those who don't read the comics then yes. The film version is what they think of. But if you are a Hulk fan you would probably want something that was a little more Universal and not just one film version Hulk. Now if I was worried about showing my collection off to Average Joe perhaps I would have nothing but film versions though I would tend to argue that some characters will always be pictured as their comic version (Batman, Cap America, Spider-man) but I collect for me and not average Joe.

Now if I love the Hulk in the Avengers film I could see being tempted to get the new hulk but I have a ton of other hulks in my collection so it would be just another version. But If I could only have one I would never pick just a movie version.

if you're exposed to the comics first, then yeah, you might prefer it to the film version. first love is hard to let go. and i cant argue with personal preference.

but what i disagree with is when you said the comic version is the universal version. comic has always been a relatively small niche market when compared to film. it's also more localized whereas film is global. so while you and your friends know the kirby hulk is how he's supposed to look originally, the rest of the world just wont care, as long as he's green and he's mean, just like how he looks in the avenger film. to the world, the film hulk will be the prefered hulk.

you said you dont want a version that is "pigeon-holed" into just one film version. but let me ask you, how many versions of hulk are there in the comics throughout the decades? isn't the pf also "pigeon-holed" into just one version? the hulk in today's comics dont even look like the kirby's version anymore. style and design evolves, for the better(otherwise hulk is still grey). the current superman is not the original superman anymore. ditto with batman, or wolverine, or a slew of other comic characters. the hulk that is in whedon's avenger is actually more representative of the modern hulk, more so than the kirby pf.

and the thing with film is, a great film can achieve universality and transcend generations. it can become timeless. the christopher reeve's superman is not "just one film version", it is the version that is most loved by the world. ditto with downey jr as tony stark. hulk may be drawn on a piece of paper originally, but the character has outgrown his medium and his creator. and i believe, as per next week, the hulk that will forever be ingrained in people's minds will be the living breathing hulk they see in darkened theater, swatting puny aliens like flies and demolishing metropolis in the process. and that's the power of film that comic can never duplicate.

long post. i did aim for much shorter.

 

[filip629]

DON'T YOU EVER CRITICIZE THE PF AGAIN OR I WILL SMASH YOU!!!!!!!

I see your point but when I look at the PF I see him saying:

"there you are....I'm going to hurt you"

And the maquete says:

"I'm pissed...get out of my way!!!"

There are good things and bad things about both but the Maquette seems massive and the PF is just so powerful looking....

Can't wait to see the full reveal of Hulk Maquette.....and price....

Cheers

Bear

It's all good Bear. As I've said before, so long as you like it, that's all that matters. It was never my cup of tea. Different strokes for different folks. I'm waiting for the full reveal and price for the maquette myself.

 

[Theokan]

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Both the PF and Maquette are great. The way I decide is to look at your own collection and see what you are focusing on, if you have Marvel movie stuff than the Maquette makes more sense. If you already have the comic Cap/Thor/Ironman, then Hulk PF makes more sense. Although I have to say one exception, rule of thumb is try not to sell your first love,you'll probably regret that. I'd say keep your Hulk PF even though your collection is movie centric since the Hulk PF is your very first SSC piece, I'm sure it means more to you then just looking cool on your shelve, an equally awesome statue probably won't be able to replace that feeling.

It's because they want the price to skyrocket to even more ridiculous $$$ so they can have an excuse for why such an ugly Hulk is sitting on their shelf. That's just my opinion...so don't sh** in your pants because I said it. Frankly, I could careless if people think my collection is garbage because it's what I enjoy...and I don't collect for other people's approval. So I don't understand their need to always go ape-sh** when someone talks negative on it. I don't want to be all negative about this piece because it does have many positives (sculpt, weight, size, comic accurate, etc), but that face is just something I'd expect from those early horror flicks like Frankenstein.

Sorry, but same goes for almost all Wolverine's made by SS.

You bring up some interesting points here, because for me and many people those are actually positive reasons why we like the Hulk PF and SSC in general. Look at people's collectables and see how many ugly creatures there are; Predator, Alien, Kirby Hulk, Frankenstein Monster, Chucky, Freddy, the list goes on and on. If Ugly isn't your thing then the word "Sideshow" probably means nothing to you, think about the origin of the word, there's a reason why SSC only do Disney Villains.. Sideshow wants to make the "ugly" berserker Wolverine, not the pretty boy version if that ever existed Maybe you should try to understand the company a little more, they aren't interested in romanticizing characters to make them more attractive in the conventional sense, that's not really for their target audience.



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[Shai]

LOL @ all the new Hulk connaisseurs and experts in this thread.Fair Weather poseurs.

 

[Bezzerkerr]

it does have many positives (sculpt, weight, size, comic accurate, etc), but that face is just something I'd expect from those early horror flicks like Frankenstein.

 

[Shai]

Exactly.

 

[JAWS]

pardon my late reply. movie vs comic is always a fun debate... but i'll try to further state my case as to why movie > comic.

You are right it is a fun debate.

true, does not mean it's good. it means it will be glorious! look, critics are a hard bunch to please - when you see hundreds of film in any given year, you have to be. and then they have their own standards by which to judge a film. they can see cracks and flaws the casual fanboy might not even see. so for them to be almost universal(only 1 rotten review out of 39, so far) in their love for this film, a superhero film, it's really saying something.

Oh I am sure it's good. But there have been times when a film has been loved by the masses and it just did not click with me. Avatar is a good example for me. But being that I love comic films I am sure I will love this one.

if you're exposed to the comics first, then yeah, you might prefer it to the film version. first love is hard to let go. and i cant argue with personal preference.

True. Same goes for the those who see the film first. I just tend to think that collectors of this sort of thing probably were exposed to the comics first. I just don't see to many people who just discovered The Hulk shelling out 700.00 to 1000.00 $ for it.

but what i disagree with is when you said the comic version is the universal version. comic has always been a relatively small niche market when compared to film. it's also more localized whereas film is global. so while you and your friends know the kirby hulk is how he's supposed to look originally, the rest of the world just wont care, as long as he's green and he's mean, just like how he looks in the avenger film. to the world, the film hulk will be the prefered hulk.

I guess when I say Universal (did I say that) version I mean the best overall representation of the character. I am talking about the Hulk fan/collector deciding which piece is best for his collection if he can only have one.

you said you dont want a version that is "pigeon-holed" into just one film version. but let me ask you, how many versions of hulk are there in the comics throughout the decades? isn't the pf also "pigeon-holed" into just one version? the hulk in today's comics dont even look like the kirby's version anymore. style and design evolves, for the better(otherwise hulk is still grey). the current superman is not the original superman anymore. ditto with batman, or wolverine, or a slew of other comic characters. the hulk that is in whedon's avenger is actually more representative of the modern hulk, more so than the kirby pf.

I would say the PF is a meld of Modern and Kirby. The face is inspired by Kirby but the Body is more modern. I am not the biggest fan of the PF. But if I had to choose between the PF and the new Maquette and I could only own one I think most Hulk fans / collectors would go with the more comic looking version. Of course there will be a few who collect who never read the Hulk comics but Love the Avengers film and want it because of that.

and the thing with film is, a great film can achieve universality and transcend generations. it can become timeless. the christopher reeve's superman is not "just one film version", it is the version that is most loved by the world. ditto with downey jr as tony stark. hulk may be drawn on a piece of paper originally, but the character has outgrown his medium and his creator. and i believe, as per next week, the hulk that will forever be ingrained in people's minds will be the living breathing hulk they see in darkened theater, swatting puny aliens like flies and demolishing metropolis in the process. and that's the power of film that comic can never duplicate.

Again I am talking about the Hulk fan / collector. Sure most of the world might think of a movie version of any character. I am not so sure about those here in the states. At least anyone over the age of 20 years. But again I say this is about collecting what, you the collector, want to display and not worry what someone over in china might think of it.

In all honesty if you put any Large Green Hulk statue in front of anyone in the world they will know it's the Hulk. Same goes for Batman and Superman. They are beyond the films and the Comics. People around the world knew who Batman, Superman, Hulk, Spider-man and others were before the films ever came out. So again it comes down to what best represents the character. I think since these characters came from the comics and have so much history there then as a collector/fan of a character one would want a great comic version over a great film version. Of course that is just my opinion. I can't pretend to know what other collectors think. We should do a poll.

long post. i did aim for much shorter.

Yeah me to

 

[cr`]

You are right it is a fun debate.

Oh I am sure it's good. But there have been times when a film has been loved by the masses and it just did not click with me. Avatar is a good example for me. But being that I love comic films I am sure I will love this one.

critics's taste and the masses's are different most of the times. i find that i trust the critics's taste better, and for what it's worth the critics were only praising avatar for its visual alone. everybody can see the story is nothing special.

True. Same goes for the those who see the film first. I just tend to think that collectors of this sort of thing probably were exposed to the comics first. I just don't see to many people who just discovered The Hulk shelling out 700.00 to 1000.00 $ for it.

I guess when I say Universal (did I say that) version I mean the best overall representation of the character. I am talking about the Hulk fan/collector deciding which piece is best for his collection if he can only have one.

if he can only have one, i tend to think most collectors would pick the best looking one, regardless of whether it's the comic of film version.

I would say the PF is a meld of Modern and Kirby. The face is inspired by Kirby but the Body is more modern. I am not the biggest fan of the PF. But if I had to choose between the PF and the new Maquette and I could only own one I think most Hulk fans / collectors would go with the more comic looking version. Of course there will be a few who collect who never read the Hulk comics but Love the Avengers film and want it because of that.

Again I am talking about the Hulk fan / collector. Sure most of the world might think of a movie version of any character. I am not so sure about those here in the states. At least anyone over the age of 20 years. But again I say this is about collecting what, you the collector, want to display and not worry what someone over in china might think of it.

just buy what you like. cant argue with that.

In all honesty if you put any Large Green Hulk statue in front of anyone in the world they will know it's the Hulk. Same goes for Batman and Superman. They are beyond the films and the Comics. People around the world knew who Batman, Superman, Hulk, Spider-man and others were before the films ever came out. So again it comes down to what best represents the character. I think since these characters came from the comics and have so much history there then as a collector/fan of a character one would want a great comic version over a great film version. Of course that is just my opinion. I can't pretend to know what other collectors think. We should do a poll.

i think if the movie version did great, then that version can transcend its comic origin, even for comic/toys collectors like us. if ht were to make a 1/6 supes based on the comic, i doubt it would outsell the reeve's version. ditto with ironman.

 

[JAWS]

critics's taste and the masses's are different most of the times. i find that i trust the critics's taste better, and for what it's worth the critics were only praising avatar for its visual alone. everybody can see the story is nothing special.

if he can only have one, i tend to think most collectors would pick the best looking one, regardless of whether it's the comic of film version.

just buy what you like. cant argue with that.

i think if the movie version did great, then that version can transcend its comic origin, even for comic/toys collectors like us. if ht were to make a 1/6 supes based on the comic, i doubt it would outsell the reeve's version. ditto with ironman.

Well HT is all about the realistic paint and it would not really be all that special if they started doing comics. I think, and I could be wrong, that People who collect HT tend to be all about movies.

 

[JAWS]

After watching this reviw Bearmodel, you need to keep the PF

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUVNOOtlvrs&list=UU3tgvaetswxm_nMiCh8YD7Q&index=28&feature=plcp[/ame]

 

[TheHulk]

There is no way I would get rid of my Hulk PF no matter how many other hulk statues come out! This is the CLASSIC kirby hulk for crying out loud. That doesn't mean that I wouldn't buy the other interpretations (Hulk Avengers Maquette)

 

[King Darkness]

Too many words for a Hulk thread.