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Re: automatic weapon fire a block from my house this morning

Well that's what i mean, and it holds to overpopulation as well, and meanwhile theres other job markets people don't want to or can't fill because they are dis-interested or cannot afford that education and/or we outsource them.

Are you saying that overpopulation is the root cause and therefore, this Christopher Dorner is the outcome?
 
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As this is an ongoing story of great interest to those of us in the LA area I'm leaving this thread open. I will remind members that calling other members names is not tolerated and can get you banned. I'd also like to remind members that political flame wars are not tolerated.


https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/torrance-shooting-dorner-manhunt.html

It amazes me how they can have that many stray bullets. These cops need to take a chill pill and go back to what they were taught. They are trained for a reason.
 
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I'm saying it plays into most of our most serious current problems along with our entire government system and parties being in need of complete overhauls and few being willing to take responsiblity and actually tell people what it is that's really wrong in fear of the media consequences.

I'm saying the overabundance of people like him and people in general and particuarly like him in media recently, all the pyschopaths using guns to systematically murder people or shoot up schools, and then getting attention for it are leading to more people like him.

And as to the updates, I'm hearing generally around 50-60 shots, so they actually unloaded their clips and reloaded several times without ever hearing or recieving any return fire? This is how responsible people handle firearms?
 
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Overpopulation is only a problem when economies cannot keep up. It's impossible to consume more than you produce.
 
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Honestly, I think the LAPD *****ked his head. He already had a troubled mind. I guess what he saw and experienced made him worse.
 
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There is plenty of evidence already as to what kind of effect the LAPD has on people, so I'd say you're onto something.
 
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Police officers are not judges and executioners. Every attempt to find and capture him alive must be made to stand trial.

Just like the police officers who opened fire on civilians who were in the wrong car should be charged and/or sued for their actions.

This is why we have courts. Posting a manifesto is no grounds for executions. If he did murder those people he should stand trial not be killed in a police offer's revenge. You're a police officer not the executioner.

I'm pretty sure civilians are more safe around this guy than the LAPD right now.

But this guy needs to be caught ASAP. For the record I don't have a criminal record.
 
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Police officers are not judges and executioners. Every attempt to find and capture him alive must be made to stand trial.

Just like the police officers who opened fire on civilians who were in the wrong car should be charged and/or sued for their actions.

This is why we have courts. Posting a manifesto is no grounds for executions. If he did murder those people he should stand trial not be killed in a police offer's revenge. You're a police officer not the executioner.

I'm pretty sure civilians are more safe around this guy than the LAPD right now.

But this guy needs to be caught ASAP. For the record I don't have a criminal record.
Tell that to Dredd :lecture but seriously I agree with what you say. These cops need to stop letting emotions getting in the way of doing their job.
 
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End of Watch

Van Hauser said:
One day, mark my words, one day the LAPD is going to bend you over your black and white, and they are going to **** you up the ***. They are going to **** you so long and so hard, you're gonna want to eat your gun just to make it stop. And if...if you don't eat your gun and the ****ing somehow magically stops, they're going to give you freeway therapy. You're gonna end up doing West End Valley daywatch. Spending two hours every day on the ****ing freeway just thinking about the ****ing that they gave you. Bad guys attack from up front. The department comes in from the rear. Watch your six.
 
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I agree! Thanks for the explanation. That's why I worked hard as young kid to get out the ghetto. Because I didn't want to have to subject my kids having to grow up in a place like that. I just seen a lot as kid and it not a place a kid should have to grow up.

And that is part of the reason why i hate some of the sheltered middle-rich upper class white folks i've worked with that stereotype blacks and various immigrants in the workforce without even thinking about how hard a good amount of us people(not just of colour,whites,Asian,Indian etc.) work while couping with various hardships outside of work...they just have no idea how hard some people have it/have had it.

I have had co-workers of various ethnicity where we shared racial jokes/stereotypes back and forth and it was all in good fun and sometimes can bring you closer together, keeps **** laid back and easy going but, that comes over time of getting to know your colleagues and their various personalities/sense of humour.

I remember years ago at my old job i was unloading a truck that came in from South Carolina i believe, and the driver arrived almost half a day early, i was the first to greet him in our recieving area and told him my supervisor would be with him in a few so, he gets chatting with me and he had that southern accent, looked like a tall grubby dork with glasses and started joking about a racoon that was outside and said something about coons some stupid redneck **** joke..aww man and my supervisor at that time was black, i bit my lip the whole time i was around the guy after that,i wanted to rip into this guy but in fear of starting some **** storm i decided not to...and i am sure many people who are victims to this type of **** in the workplace are forced to bite their lip to keep a job..its BS and has to stop because it most definite could create another monster like this Dorner guy.

On the flipside..people who cry "racism" when there isn't any or don't understand what classifies as racism merely to get what they want because they are too lazy are pieces of ****.
 
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Breaking bad isn't the problem unless it's a bunch of immature 12 year olds who don't understand real world consequences vs tv entertainment.

The problem is the real life television aka news that plays the same impending doom nightmare bs stories 24/7 to fill the all day news networks time. The problem is technology killing our attention spans so we don't learn from our mistakes anymore. We see the news as enterainment, whos the next pos pyscho baby killer to get a day in the morbid sunishine. The problem is way too many people having children and figuring out they didn't want them.

Not enough jobs or pay = overpopulation
Higher drop out rate = overpopulation
Global warming from resource consumption = overpopulation
Seeking attention by acting out = overpopulation and news media
More people going crazy = overpopulation
More homeless then ever = overpopulation
More division then ever / less progress = overpopulation and news media

Our infrastructure and economy can't keep up with our dicks. Theres always been pyschos, idiots, failures, theres just more people so more in general now and easier for them to influence culture with so many media outlets available.

Not only our dicks (well, not mine :) ), but we keep letting more and more people into this country which makes it all even worse. I've been saying it for years that the reason why there's so many problems is that there just so many more people. Bigger population = more crazies.
 
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Overpopulation is only a problem when economies cannot keep up. It's impossible to consume more than you produce.

You can only produce what exists. The amount you can produce is determined by the resources that exist, that always have been finite. The idea of growing the economy worked 400 years ago, but now, it really doesn't. Now, things are just being rearranged or changed hands.
That's why overpopulation causes unemployment. The only thing that isn't finite in theory are IDEAS. All physical things like real estate, gold, and the ability to produce food in the world are finite.
Also, like rats in a cage,if there are too few, the rats are lonely. If there are just enough, they are happy, and if there are too many, they fight and kill each other.
 
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Theres plenty when responsible people watch them. I enjoy both, well made horrors anyway. They provide a stress outlet, for some no differant then excersize. It's about why you watch them and what you take away from them. Breaking Bad is for mature audiences, 18 and up. If younger children are watching it that holds to poor parenting. But aside from it's morales what it does do is bring people togeather, gives them something in common to discuss that can be quite thought-provoking and also doesn't shy from showing the consequences of that lifestyle. The biggest most obvious differance is that it's fantasy entertainment, and the problem is that the news media uses similar stylistic approaches now to be more entertaining blurring that line because again why else would you watch a 24/7 news network and not lose interest in the same 5 stories.

I think blaming parents now adays for what their children watch is ignoring the problem at hand. I'm not a parent, but take a look around man, violence is everywhere. Our culture encourages it and accepts it. Video games, Internet , movies, tv shows, the news. It's everywhere, and easily available. It's impossible for parents to keep up with it and keep their children from watching. I see what your saying about fantasy violence, but too much of it is extremely too realistic. Old school horror has evolved into the realistic type. Just one example is that show the following on fox. It's extremely realistic and violent, I've never seen a show like that on a station that everyone gets before.

If our society didn't support all the violence, there wouldn't be so much of it. I believe that's the biggest reason, not overpopulation or the amount of unemployed. I believe that contributes, but only scratches the surface. There are plenty of other countries that set better examples. No, they aren't perfect, but their crime rates are much better than ours. Parents can only do so much to raise children with good moral, it's becoming more like a crap shoot that things will get through to the newer generations of children. If our culture doesn't change, the violence will not. I believe this countries culture will never change if boundaries aren't set better. Teachers and parents are no match for mass media and networking.
 
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Not only our dicks (well, not mine :) ), but we keep letting more and more people into this country which makes it all even worse. I've been saying it for years that the reason why there's so many problems is that there just so many more people. Bigger population = more crazies.

Many countries in the East are in the crapper, so the people flee to the West to seek out a better life for themselves. Unfortunately that leaves countries like ours overpopulated, putting increasing strain on every facet of living.
 
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So the police shoot at innocent civilans in search of this guy and your worried about one cop killer that used to be part of that same police force?


Hmmm..
 
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Many countries in the East are in the crapper, so the people flee to the West to seek out a better life for themselves. Unfortunately that leaves countries like ours overpopulated, putting increasing strain on every facet of living.

Yup happened to The Roman Empire in 465 A.D. Every civilization comes and goes, history could be repeating it self again. Interesting argument though. America is/was built with immigration and people seem to villify immigration. Interesting how the original post/story has seemingly morphed into yet another thread that could be shut down by the mods. :peace
 
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Love to see the odds you would get on this guy being taken alive lol
 
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