"I inhaled frequently... That was the point"

[El Roranous]

From a psychological stand point I disagree that they know. I think it depends on the reason for the drug use. I think alot of people who use drugs as a form of self medication find that marijuana becomes less effective with time so they move on to the heavier stuff. Much as an alcoholic who starts out with beer moves on to hard liquor. But as far as experiementing I think you are more or less correct. So as far as marijuana being a gateway drug I think the best way to answer that is "it depends".

I disagree with this. I think that a person makes a conscious decision on what they want from drugs before they even do it- otherwise there would be no point to doing them.

Marijuana doesn't have a tolerance effect. Meaning, you don't need more to get the same high. Many people have smoked the same amount of marijuana since they first started.... and since the effective dose is so far removed from the lethal dose it's pointless to smoke yourself to oblivion not to mention impossible to do so.

In contrast a drug like heroine can be taken in the same amounts and have different effects on the body. For example if you take the same amount of heroine everyday for weeks but then take the same amount in a different location you can overdose. There is a strong tolerance buildup with a drug like heroine where a person feels they need more to satisfy their craving. That is part of the addiction- it's physical. That is not present in marijuana.

 

[FeatheredSerpent]

I'll tell what IS a gateway to hard drugs, the f'n Star Wars section

That I will agree with...

 

[noggy]

I'll tell what IS a gateway to hard drugs, the f'n Star Wars section

only watched 1 star wars show it was when the guy killed dark vator

 

[Agent0028]

I think Marijuana is seen as a gate way drug because its what most people start with, but simply smoking marijuana does not make people start doing harder stuff. There are far too many people who smoke marijuana and never move on to other stuff for that to be cause and effect.

 

[King Darkness]

'dark vator'

 

[FeatheredSerpent]

only watched 1 star wars show it was when the guy killed dark vator

hmmmm...not much of a star wars fan are ya...Darth vator??? the guy?? who dat??

 

[El Roranous]

That may be true for you and some people, but what about others? That question doesn't have a specific answer for everyone...maybe it didn't lead to other harder drugs for you but it has for others...

That's like saying Back to the Future the ride doesn't cause heart attacks but to some it might. Well of course. But the percentage is so small it's negligible and not documented by accurate statistical research. All systems have an outlier.

Some people are raised in a racist environment how many will become the next Hitler?

 

[OSCORP]

I think Marijuana is seen as a gate way drug because its what most people start with,

I think most people start with cigs. Now that is a ^^^^ing drug!!!!! I don't see weed or mushrooms as drugs in the typical sense but as tools. ( i don't do em anymore, but that's what i've gotten from them)

 

[Agent0028]

I disagree with this. I think that a person makes a conscious decision on what they want from drugs before they even do it- otherwise there would be no point to doing them.

Marijuana doesn't have a tolerance effect. Meaning, you don't need more to get the same high. Many people have smoked the same amount of marijuana since they first started.... and since the effective dose is so far removed from the lethal dose it's pointless to smoke yourself to oblivion not to mention impossible to do so.

In contrast a drug like heroine can be taken in the same amounts and have different effects on the body. For example if you take the same amount of heroine everyday for weeks but then take the same amount in a different location you can overdose. There is a strong tolerance buildup with a drug like heroine where a person feels they need more to satisfy their craving. That is part of the addiction- it's physical. That is not present in marijuana.

I think we're partially on the same page and partially talking at cross purposes.

 

[King Darkness]

I think most people start with cigs. Now that is a ^^^^ing drug!!!!! I don't see weed or mushrooms as drugs in the typical sense but as tools. ( i don't do em anymore, but that's what i've gotten from them)

I started by hooking at the truck stops

 

[Agent0028]

I think most people start with cigs. Now that is a ^^^^ing drug!!!!! I don't see weed or mushrooms as drugs in the typical sense but as tools. ( i don't do em anymore, but that's what i've gotten from them)

Yeah, I totally agree with that. And for some they never move on and for some they do.

 

[FeatheredSerpent]

That's like saying Back to the Future the ride doesn't cause heart attacks but to some it might. Well of course. But the percentage is so small it's negligible and not documented by accurate statistical research. All systems have an outlier.

Some people are raised in a racist environment how many will become the next Hitler?

hopefully nobody becomes the next hitler...However, if you have studied drugs as you say, you have to admit that all drugs can have negative health effects on the human body. That is all I was trying to point out. Even when there are drugs used for good things and health problems sometimes they have negative effects, especially when they are abused...

 

[El Roranous]

I think Marijuana is seen as a gate way drug because its what most people start with, but simply smoking marijuana does not make people start doing harder stuff. There are far too many people who smoke marijuana and never move on to other stuff for that to be cause and effect.

That's pretty much what I am saying.

And most people may start out smoking marijuana because it's more obtainable and cheaper than other drugs. They may move on because marijuana didn't fulfill what they were looking for from the start. I think everyone has a preconceived notion of what drugs should do and what they want them to do.

 

[noggy]

hmmmm...not much of a star wars fan are ya...Darth vator??? the guy?? who dat??

ROFL nope. I just know there are ships and people and darth vator and :chew

 

[Agent0028]

That's pretty much what I am saying.

And most people may start out smoking marijuana because it's more obtainable and cheaper than other drugs. They may move on because marijuana didn't fulfill what they were looking for from the start. I think everyone has a preconceived notion of what drugs should do and what they want them to do.

Yeah that's what I was trying to say too. I think for some people its not so much a conscious decision as a drive though.

 

[King Darkness]

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[El Roranous]

hopefully nobody becomes the next hitler...However, if you have studied drugs as you say, you have to admit that all drugs can have negative health effects on the human body. That is all I was trying to point out. Even when there are drugs used for good things and health problems sometimes they have negative effects, especially when they are abused...

Definitely! This you are 100% right about.

Marijuana is bad because of the way it enters your body...but that is also the reason it is so effective so quickly. It gets right to your brain through your lungs. It's direct. The pills are less effective because it takes a while for them to work. If you ate it though.... there are no harmful effects. it's like eating any other type of plant.

Everything is bad for you if it's abused. Even exercise.

Abuse starts when it negatively impacts or impairs you and you are not able to function normally, as in do the daily things you need to do.

 

[FeatheredSerpent]

Yeah that's what I was trying to say too. I think for some people its not so much a conscious decision as a drive though.

there are those though that think the pot didn't do anything bad to them, so why not try something else...I had a friend growing up that did this exact thing. So it does happen. I agree everyone is not like that, but it still happens..

 

[FeatheredSerpent]

Definitely! This you are 100% right about.

Marijuana is bad because of the way it enters your body...but that is also the reason it is so effective so quickly. It gets right to your brain through your lungs. It's direct. The pills are less effective because it takes a while for them to work. If you ate it though.... there are no harmful effects. it's like eating any other type of plant.

Everything is bad for you if it's abused. Even exercise.

Abuse starts when it negatively impacts or impairs you and you are not able to function normally, as in do the daily things you need to do.

Now I think we both agree.....

 

[Bannister]

Everything is bad for you if it's abused. Even exercise.

You can never lose too much weight.