[iminime] (The Cowboy), The Bounty Hunter & The Bandit

[shells075]

Re: [iminime] The Bad & The Ugly - Completing 'The Cowboy'

To be honest here, the more you think about it the more it just confuses people and is really pointless.

In my opinion a much better way to have tackled it would be re-release the head sculpt and clothing set.

You can buy those bodies and gun rig and also those boots. The only things you can't get is the spurs, and snake grip pistol, but i'd put money on aftermarket versions of those will be made at some point.

I think Stevo's toys do pistols with snake grip designs on them.

https://www.stevostoys.com/

Good place to get wild west / cowboy stuff, He makes to order so you might have to wait a while to get your stuff.

Battle gear is also a good place to buy from.

https://www.battlegeartoys.com/

 

[batfan08]

Re: [iminime] The Bad & The Ugly - Completing 'The Cowboy'

. At best what should be done is the discount the trio set would draw cause people buy all 3 in one go should probably reflect for people who have bought blondie before and plan to buy just the other two this time. That is a better decision than giving something less or ensuring a higher price just cause someone missed or dint buy this before. Also, if there is a higher price than the figure should come with something extra or special. Hot toys announced robocop and many bought it. Then they announced a version with different head sculpt. I cried a lot when they announced that. It pains but that does not mean i expect hot toys to "protect my investment" i bought something its my problem whether the cost in market increases or decreases.


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Some of us would love to have the trio set. With just 10 the chances are so low that many of us would even get these!. Lastly who would want just the duo and no cowboy? So if the objective is that only the ones who bought cowboy should buy the rest of the two then i guess the message is clear. But if the objective is to see as many fans can have this piece of art - my view definitely more than 10 sets would be needed. I personally dont see the value decrease if they made 30 more. I am just saying cause how many of the ones who own one are selling? For 2 or 3 sellers to retain short term so called value, why should others suffer ... I think the best way could be to open an interest list and let's see where it lands cause otherwise we are looking at just 10 more fans getting this beauty
some of us lost the opp to buy this for whatever reason. Also many dint know if all 3 would be done for sure. Considering all 3 are being done definitely the trio set is a great idea and should be a few more than 10


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First off: 10 is fine. Keep in mind that these figures are $450+ each, and, for a lot of us, it's hard enough to raise enough for one of them, so, believe you me, if you think that you're going to see 30 people shelling out $1300+ out at once, you're sorely mistaken. Also, if I may, I'd like to give you some advice: don't look a gift horse in the mouth. You're talking about how it shouldn't be their job to protect value, and how improved versions of characters are released all the time, but this isn't really an improved release. It's the same as before, with the exception of the boots.

Then, you're asking for a discount on the trio, rather than the minor mark-up on The Cowboy. Be grateful that they're even re-releasing it. I'm not trying to be an *******, but trust me. I own The Cowboy, and I can say that it is worth whatever IMINIME will charge for the trio. Hell, honestly, I can say that you'd probably be paying more for The Cowboy on the secondary market on its own than you likely will for this entire set, if not for this happening.

 

[Leon 911]

Re: [iminime] The Bad & The Ugly - Completing 'The Cowboy'

First off: 10 is fine. Keep in mind that these figures are $450+ each, and, for a lot of us, it's hard enough to raise enough for one of them, so, believe you me, if you think that you're going to see 30 people shelling out $1300+ out at once, you're sorely mistaken. Also, if I may, I'd like to give you some advice: don't look a gift horse in the mouth. You're talking about how it shouldn't be their job to protect value, and how improved versions of characters are released all the time, but this isn't really an improved release. It's the same as before, with the exception of the boots.

Then, you're asking for a discount on the trio, rather than the minor mark-up on The Cowboy. Be grateful that they're even re-releasing it. I'm not trying to be an *******, but trust me. I own The Cowboy, and I can say that it is worth whatever IMINIME will charge for the trio. Hell, honestly, I can say that you'd probably be paying more for The Cowboy on the secondary market on its own than you likely will for this entire set, if not for this happening.

Sorry for the long post...in advance.

Nothing is ever worth "whatever" is charged so i dont need to be grateful man. If they dont do it, i wont buy it and my world wont come to an end! Also, no one is doing a favor by re realising it. the ones who already bought i hope are true collectors and are not just chasing value hike. As for doing same figure again - Its their choice and that will possibly help them sell more of the other two as well cause at 450 a piece not everyone will buy all 3 (like you rightly said) definitely not the numbers the cowboy sold. Lastly if the trio set is not released, they will lose out on a set of buyers who will not jump in and buy the other two without the cowboy, so makes perfect business sense and helps reach break even in worst case and drive sales for other two. But At 1550 i am shaky as well ...

If costs have increased for production etc all that is beyond me to talk and honestly i dont want to get into on how much they should charge for x figure or y figure. That's not my job.

All i am saying is its a simple rule. They can charge 2000 but protecting value for people who already bought it is a wrong logic to me and even if that logic holds true for the ones who already own it, that should not be iminime job. Next we know we have refunds coming in cause of value of the product dropped


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[PopCultKid]

Re: [iminime] The Bad & The Ugly - Completing 'The Cowboy'

Brother, you have quite a bit to learn about how the gears turn in the custom world

There are certain etiquettes, politics and unwritten rules. It's just the way it goes.

Iminime IS doing those who missed out a favor. It's usually frowned upon when a producer offers a re-run or an extension of a numbered, limited edition offering way after the fact. Edition sizes have been bumped up in the past in the pre-production stage but this is quite late in the game. Everyone who bought one has received theirs, and they have already been secondary market sales. Usually a situation like this sends a thread into meltdown. People go bonkers if there is clamoring for an exclusive accessory to be re-released. The earth isn't shaking and the sky isn't falling. All the people who already own this are staying quiet and not making a fuss.... which is a first so.....

 

[Leon 911]

Re: [iminime] The Bad & The Ugly - Completing 'The Cowboy'

Brother, you have quite a bit to learn about how the gears turn in the custom world

There are certain etiquettes, politics and unwritten rules. It's just the way it goes.

Iminime IS doing those who missed out a favor. It's usually frowned upon when a producer offers a re-run or an extension of a numbered, limited edition offering way after the fact. Edition sizes have been bumped up in the past in the pre-production stage but this is quite late in the game. Everyone who bought one has received theirs, and they have already been secondary market sales. Usually a situation like this sends a thread into meltdown. People go bonkers if there is clamoring for an exclusive accessory to be re-released. The earth isn't shaking and the sky isn't falling. All the people who already own this are staying quiet and not making a fuss.... which is a first so.....

My tutor ... And you know you are. Thanks for all the offline help! ...

I look upto many on the custom thread so dont mean to come out wrong: I completely understand. I am not asking them to make it. They have decided to make it. Personally, my world does not come to an end if they dont make it. But to be honest i dont consider that as a favor. Like i said they can price it for 2000 and they will be right. But protecting value is a wrong logic. For 10 months i have seen someone list a godfather with badly damaged box listed for 1000 usd. I picked one extra for my display for 40 pct the cost with perfect box etc. so value is very very relative.

As for numbered edition, something extra can be done for them if they buy the other two. Something special can be shipped for them if they buy both figures, there are ways to do it rather than make them happy by charging someone else $$.

But as wake indicated the hike is due to production cost. That i accept and that iminime knows better so am fine, i will see my situation and if i have 1550 then i will pick it. If i dont, i will pass it. But am sure many like me wont buy the duo without the cowboy. So its a fairly simple thing but honestly no favors there



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[Jimmy C]

Re: [iminime] The Bad & The Ugly - Completing 'The Cowboy'

With all this talk about Limited Editions and "protecting value"

What happens when Hot Toys or Sideshow or Bros Production or whoever aquires the license commissions Trevor to sculpt the head and hires on some of the other artizans to make the official character from the movie we all know and love ? What happens to the "value" then ?

hypothetically speaking of course

 

[PopCultKid]

Re: [iminime] The Bad & The Ugly - Completing 'The Cowboy'

But as wake indicated the hike is due to production cost. That i accept and that iminime knows better so am fine, i will see my situation and if i have 1550 then i will pick it. If i dont, i will pass it. But am sure many like me wont buy the duo without the cowboy. So its a fairly simple thing but honestly no favors there



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The more you stick around brother, the more you'll see the way of things; that's all I can say. But the Cowboy isn't widely available on the secondary market and when it has gone up, more times than not it's fetched a big nut. The last 2 that went on eBay (regular sets) sold for $1100 & $1200. If I’m not mistaken the sculpt alone as went for about $300. The natives aren't restless and those who missed this the first time around have the chance to score it for way less than those eBay prices. You can either see this as a unusually smooth situation and a MAJOR favor on Iminime's part... or not

 

[Leon 911]

Re: [iminime] The Bad & The Ugly - Completing 'The Cowboy'

Agreed bro. In another parallel thread some similar views from people. Not a direct context but more on value etc...

https://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119856


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[Commtech]

Re: [iminime] The Bad & The Ugly - Completing 'The Cowboy'

The more you stick around brother, the more you'll see the way of things; that's all I can say. But the Cowboy isn't widely available on the secondary market and when it has gone up, more times than not it's fetched a big nut. The last 2 that went on eBay (regular sets) sold for $1100 & $1200. If I’m not mistaken the sculpt alone as went for about $300. The natives aren't restless and those who missed this the first time around have the chance to score it for way less than those eBay prices. You can either see this as a unusually smooth situation and a MAJOR favor on Iminime's part... or not

 

[batfan08]

Re: [iminime] The Bad & The Ugly - Completing 'The Cowboy'

With all this talk about Limited Editions and "protecting value"

What happens when Hot Toys or Sideshow or Bros Production or whoever aquires the license commissions Trevor to sculpt the head and hires on some of the other artizans to make the official character from the movie we all know and love ? What happens to the "value" then ?

hypothetically speaking of course

Hypothetically speaking, that will never happen, and, if it does, it will be a world that I'll be sad to be a part of. Reason being, I'm pretty sure Clint Eastwood went back and purchased all of the rights to his likeness, which means that, for that to happen, it would mean either A.) he has a change of heart (something I'd be fine with), or B.) the rights are now with someone who is much more liberal with them (which would most likely mean that Mr.Eastwood is no longer with us; something that would make me very, very sad).

 

[Leon 911]

Re: [iminime] The Bad & The Ugly - Completing 'The Cowboy'

The more you stick around brother, the more you'll see the way of things; that's all I can say. But the Cowboy isn't widely available on the secondary market and when it has gone up, more times than not it's fetched a big nut. The last 2 that went on eBay (regular sets) sold for $1100 & $1200. If I’m not mistaken the sculpt alone as went for about $300. The natives aren't restless and those who missed this the first time around have the chance to score it for way less than those eBay prices. You can either see this as a unusually smooth situation and a MAJOR favor on Iminime's part... or not

I will never buy a figure with that high a mark up. I can always wait for someone to come up with a custom. Rainman made one and the ones who waited it out got this. And the ones who wait it out will get another. People can pay massive markups if they want to. But i don expect the original seller to keep marking it up just cause ebay has it for higher and on that count i respect wake cause he made it clear its production cost and i understand that. Also i go by his suggestions as i think he is a huge asset to Danny.

Nevertheless i think a trio set is a great idea and would be huge "class act thing" for iminime to do. If i end up buying one and six months later iminime does one for lower price i wont get cranked up all over. I felt the Same ones about a hot toys figure and i think i was wrong. I threw a lot of fluids around when i heard of full Murphy sculpt. But now i think they have the right to make whatever in whichever form and don need to give heads up or otherwise. Each figure is independent and its our choice to buy or sell and sellers dont have any obligation to protect us.

On a lighter note 1550 will be just about less than half my rent in california so i have to first convince my wife else blondie and gang will have a home but not me!


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[Leon 911]

Re: [iminime] The Bad & The Ugly - Completing 'The Cowboy'

Hypothetically speaking, that will never happen, and, if it does, it will be a world that I'll be sad to be a part of. Reason being, I'm pretty sure Clint Eastwood went back and purchased all of the rights to his likeness, which means that, for that to happen, it would mean either A.) he has a change of heart (something I'd be fine with), or B.) the rights are now with someone who is much more liberal with them (which would most likely mean that Mr.Eastwood is no longer with us; something that would make me very, very sad).

He is giving an example. Clint may have an issue but not the whole world. Try to see the larger pic in his message, all he is saying is there are no gurantees and as collectors we should not look for any to begin with.


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[batfan08]

Re: [iminime] The Bad & The Ugly - Completing 'The Cowboy'

No, I'm just saying; that's something that probably won't happen for a while, and, under the circumstances that it would take for it to happen, I'm not sure I want to think about it.

 

[Machew1031]

Re: [iminime] The Bad & The Ugly - Completing 'The Cowboy'

Hypothetically speaking, that will never happen, and, if it does, it will be a world that I'll be sad to be a part of. Reason being, I'm pretty sure Clint Eastwood went back and purchased all of the rights to his likeness, which means that, for that to happen, it would mean either A.) he has a change of heart (something I'd be fine with), or B.) the rights are now with someone who is much more liberal with them (which would most likely mean that Mr.Eastwood is no longer with us; something that would make me very, very sad).

I agree. IMO Hot toys will never touch this. And if sideshow does take this up I don't think the clothing and paint apps with be up to par with Iminime. That being all pending if anyone could ever get Eastwoods likeness rights. Either way I'd still love my Cowboy even if they made 1,000 of them. Such an amazing figure, that I think will stand the test of time

 

[Jimmy C]

Re: [iminime] The Bad & The Ugly - Completing 'The Cowboy'

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SEALED-Cli...313?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c76c4d1f1

I presume this was before Mr. Eastwood "bought the rights to his image" may even be what ticked him off

My point was not to insinuate that you would love your Iminime figs any less if the character was mass marketed by a licensed company.
My point was to those of you who believe Denny owes you the exclusivity and a duty to protect the value of your figure.
The character has proven popular. Why should'nt Denny make more/sell more at the same profit % ? Like, I don't understand; what's it to you that others enjoy the figure.

btw: Anyone care to venture guess as to how many repeat buyers will score the trio and flip the original at E-bay prices ? So the folks who missed the fig the first time around will now get another opportunity to buy the original "Cowboy" with the old boots at inflated prices

 

[Leon 911]

Re: [iminime] The Bad & The Ugly - Completing 'The Cowboy'

very well said and great points there. Thats my biggest worry. That people will cry and still buy the trio set and just start flipping the ones they had before out to the market. And since Denny and wake may just do 10 odd of these many who are not like 24/7 ready to order online will miss out before it even sees the light of the day. May be we should do an interest thread so that wake has an idea on the tentative size he needs to make for the set, based on that he could do 5 or 20 on where the needle lands.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SEALED-Cli...313?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c76c4d1f1

I presume this was before Mr. Eastwood "bought the rights to his image" may even be what ticked him off

My point was not to insinuate that you would love your Iminime figs any less if the character was mass marketed by a licensed company.
My point was to those of you who believe Denny owes you the exclusivity and a duty to protect the value of your figure.
The character has proven popular. Why should'nt Denny make more/sell more at the same profit % ? Like, I don't understand; what's it to you that others enjoy the figure.

btw: Anyone care to venture guess as to how many repeat buyers will score the trio and flip the original at E-bay prices ? So the folks who missed the fig the first time around will now get another opportunity to buy the original "Cowboy" with the old boots at inflated prices

 

[denny kim]

Re: [iminime] The Bad & The Ugly - Completing 'The Cowboy'

The Trio set is very limited and I can say...

Japan, Italy, UK, Indonesia, Brazil will take few.
meaning not many pcs will be going around in USA.

it's just for collectors who cannot really find our custom works in secondhand market.
And I know the heart that they really want it.

I will take the negative opinions, but this will be happening and I believe that this is for many of other collectors in the world.
I still think this will be hard to get when it's on preorder as we limit the number small for trio set.

I hope you understand, I get many opinions and all has their points.
so ..I made a decision.

thanks

Denny

 

[Leon 911]

Re: [iminime] The Bad & The Ugly - Completing 'The Cowboy'

I dont think there are any negative opinions. Infact i personally feel you should do more numbers of these, it will be a shame for is in US to miss out on this.

The Trio set is very limited and I can say...

Japan, Italy, UK, Indonesia, Brazil will take few.
meaning not many pcs will be going around in USA.

it's just for collectors who cannot really find our custom works in secondhand market.
And I know the heart that they really want it.

I will take the negative opinions, but this will be happening and I believe that this is for many of other collectors in the world.
I still think this will be hard to get when it's on preorder as we limit the number small for trio set.

I hope you understand, I get many opinions and all has their points.
so ..I made a decision.

thanks

Denny

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[Leon 911]

Re: [iminime] The Bad & The Ugly - Completing 'The Cowboy'

List for trio set so far:

1) Leon 911
2) shells075
3)
4)
5)
.....


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[Ajkhunter]

Re: [iminime] The Bad & The Ugly - Completing 'The Cowboy'

List for trio set so far:

1) Leon 911
2) shells075
3)
4)
5)
.....


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Did you not read when Denny wrote... the head of the company.. haha