[iminime] / Trevor Grove - The Cowboy ~ FULL REVEAL ~

[Leon 911]

^^ I think a paintwork like this would go a long way in creating an awesome statue. Imagine painted hands, single pose and appropriately painted clothing's with semi fabric work... Simply awesome, i came 2-3 times to the thread just to check it out!

 

[SilentSurfer]

I take that back. It actually looks in some pics like Eastwood's left is is lower. Maybe it's not a mistake, but a testimony to Trevor's brilliance that he picked up on it.

 

[Rdeezy]

Yeah I just looked and Trevor is just that good..lol
since I got into 1:6 I've started to notice in everyday life peoples eye position, a lot of peoples eyes are asymmetric! since its one of the first things I notice especially in 1:6 scale

 

[Rahmier84]

Damn Trevor is spot on man! Getting the eye lower like in real life wow! Some sculptors are just way off and I dont think its on purpose.... I can pick out a trev sculpt usually from the slightly elongated upper lip though....its his style I guess

 

[The Skull]

That's the best custom paint job I've ever seen, truly a masterpiece in every sense of the word

I haven't followed your work, I've seen a few of your paint jobs but that's got to be your best yet

 

[pixletwin]

 

[ShortRound]

So because I have an unpainted cast from Trevor makes me the culprit? Interesting. A recaster calling me a recaster. That's ridiculous.

Just for the record, that phony email is from Q to Odell. "Gavin" is the name of Q's 9 year old son. What an idiot.

 

[ShortRound]

The walls are closing in. So you must be pretty close to Q if you know the name and age of his son

His son is always at Frank and son's with him. Everyone there knows his name. I guessed his age.

I know you're in on this too Ecko.

 

[karamazov80]

Let's not engage in witch hunting here. This "evidence" seems sketchy at best, and unsubstantiated accusations aren't productive or welcome.

 

[ShortRound]

Q and Odell are known associates. I have a really bad past with Q. Ended very ugly. This is simply an easy way to attack me.

 

[denny kim]

Personally, Hector and I are very good friend. I do not have any idea what this is about.

But I will not think about it and let it go. I hope there is peace

 

[Hydeous]

How did Q get hold of the DX head?

 

[PopCultKid]

It looks like whatever convo about that happened and got deleted already.

 

[Hydeous]

This issue should be brought up and find a solution so that it should not happen again.

I saw on ebay that he's sold a few dozens of this DX sculpt already, its not fair to the buyers/owners of the DX set and a slap to the collecting community.

 

[armysoldier74b]

This issue should be brought up and find a solution so that it should not happen again.

I saw on ebay that he's sold a few dozens of this DX sculpt already, its not fair to the buyers/owners of the DX set and a slap to the collecting community.

Playing Devil's Advocate:

Lets say Hector did send off the HS to get recasted.

A: He got $300 dollars for renting out the HS.
B. Recaster already made his money back and is now profiting.

and none of that Money went into the Artist's pocket (Except for the DX Figure at retail of course)

I'm using this example, not to cast blame (Pun intended), but to open the Artists eyes.


I'm sure no collector wants to see a Head Sculpt recasted.
To all the painters out there they can care less. They can buy one on the cheap and paint it.

- If you are going to make a Second HS just make it available for everyone that wants one.
- Continue to offer it unpainted through the Cinemascale website.
- If you don't want to be in the business of recasting by offering HS indefinitely, then sell the rights to recast to someone out there.
- A DX item should be more complex ( PF Suitcase, Gurney, Alternate clothing,)

You can only get mad at something for so long before it becomes the norm.
Thats where we are with these recasted HS at the moment. Just look at Q's Ebay and just look at all the recasted HS in there - SMDH
You can blacklist Hector (If it was him), but I have a feeling it won't stop Q from getting his hands on these HS.


Having said all this I am not accusing Hector nor am I defending him.
I am one that believes if you get called out on something you should man-up to it and take it.
I lay more blame on the business model for not adapting.


I end this post with the following disclaimer.

*** I do not in any way support recasters, by purchasing their work or having the artists work recasted. I will continue to pay higher prices for the artist's work so it can support their way of living and so they can continue to provide us with these awesome figures****

 

[batfan08]

For a guy who talks so much about "people taking plastic toys way too seriously," that guy certainly likes to stir up trouble over plastic toys. At the end of the day, the recasters have won. The sculpts are in their hands, and they'll probably continue to get into their hands. If you own an original head, and you believe that the numbers are really important, take solace in the fact that you've, at least got the "exclusive" paintjob. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely would've loved for more people to experience this fantastic piece in person, but, with that in mind, there's a right way and a wrong way, and what Q's doing certainly isn't right. The way I see it, though, this is a hobby. A hobby is supposed to be about escaping your problems and enjoying something you like. This stuff is a bastardization of the very idea of collecting, and, frankly, I'm tired of it. I don't like the idea of Q profiting off of the work and skills of others. I know that opens a whole can of worms regarding likeness rights, and so on, and so forth, but, at the end of the day, someone put a lot of time and effort into creating something of artistic merit, and, frankly, I think that's being overlooked.

This kind of stuff is an affront to the artists, not the consumers. I'm tired of worrying about numbers, and, frankly, I'd much rather enjoy what I have, but, with that being said, I think that, whenever stuff like this frustrates us, we should really reflect and think of why we're in this hobby. I don't know about you, but, when I was a child, I didn't fantasize of looking at numbers on a certificate. With that in mind, I suppose this sort of melodrama is to be expected, as this hobby does entail a certain level of immaturity from all of its willing participants. I mean that, though; I'd say that the primary motivation for 90% of collecting is a sense of nostalgia that all of this stuff brings. If you want to worry about details or likenesses, or anything that might concern the aesthetic appeal, be my guest, but, honestly, the trouble that people start over these things flies in the face of what their purpose actually is. A hobby should never bring you more stress; it's simple as that.

 

[Whodat6243]

I will state this and then expect for the typical sideshow freaks "politics" to go into effect and delete this and ban the name. Proof has shown that this dude gave the head sculpt to Q....before I even posted the video other members called out his name to me. No one on here even knows Q's name let alone family members in which Short round just gave away which Ecko was correct on how do you even know the guy's kid and his age. Its not sitting here causing trouble Batfan......wrong is wrong. I was banned by being "disliked" as Dave never showed me any proof of what I was doing that got me banned. Here proof shows that this dude gave the head sculpt away for recast. Now will he be banned??? NO....sideshow freaks politics will not allow it because he is buddy buddy with the right people. My theory will prove this as I stated...he will not be banned....this will be deleted and the name I'm under will be banned. Why was Mike Ecko's comments deleted? Because he is one of the many that knows what he did? I stated that I was shocked that he was the one to do it....no one gave up a painted head sculpt to be recasted...it was one of the unpainted that was given out and only 3 of those were given out. He stated short round was hurting for cash and rented out the head sculpt to him for $300. Truth is this....all I can say is stop complaining about Q....artists need to stop complaining about Q WHEN PROOF WAS GIVEN AS TO WHO SUPPLIED HIM WITH THE HEAD AND NO ONE DID NOTHING. I see pages and pages of conversations and arguments about Q and wondering who his supplier is....and when one is exposed no one wants to say nor do anything about it....so in that case stop complaining when a head pops up. Of course he is going to deny it and say the email is false....I have over 36 emails of conversation with this guy and he finally came out and stated who gave him the head. Truth hurts but again......everyone wanted to know....now you know....so like I said....let the typical sideshow freaks politics happen....delete this and ban the name.

 

[marlindesign]

It is that simple, but not when we are paying close to $1000 and more for a custom figure. You would expect that what you have bought a limited figure, and it should stay that way. The best solution is to do what RN has done... Open the heads up every few months so these recasters go out of business. I am sure we would all buy from the artist for the same price, rather than ebay as a recast...

 

[Wake]

The video screams "look at me" and is meant to destroy hectors reputation. It Presents no actual proof either. The images of the unpainted cast were posted by hector a long time ago. Trevor is also skeptical of this video. I would ignore it for the time being.

 

[Hydeous]

I personally don't think its Shortround either.

Its possible that Q bought the existing DX set and recast it as well, as he's sold more than a dozen of those to recoup his initial investment anyways.