'International Edition' Patiet Zero PF?

[Kibishii]

Still, it sounds like this is something SS planned to do very late in the game, so bringing it to light might have been difficult on their part. The ES on these limited edition collectibles are supposed to be worldwide, and SS should stick with them when a # for an ES is decided upon...

However, I like the idea of helping other collectors attain a piece for their collection. If this was SS's motive here, than that is cool.

I know for a fact most people wouldn't have cared if the news of the International Edition had been included in the newsletter. I think a lot of people are worried that SS will continue setting an ES and then adding more later.
BTW, SS thanks for the amazing PZ PF...It really is a sight to behold!

I think this really is the point of this thread and sums up alot of people's feelings. For those of you that ES doesn't matter, then why should Sideshow or any high end collectible even bother with ES? Why: Because ES makes these collectibles limited and having a given, limited production differentiates that product from mass produced items. Once a company produces product where the ES becomes unreliable or irrelavant, that companies is in for trouble.

The point is that Sideshow did bother with listing a Worldwide ES and upped that after the fact and never announced it; personally, I think they should have announced bumping the ES right from the get go and that may have helped make nice over the piece and fans would probably have understood; keeping it quiet just hit some people as shady. The fear is that Sideshow will start doing this anytime "valued collectors" are left out. It is really cool that Sideshow is taking steps to help those outside of the US get this piece, but it should have been done much differently.

Still very impressed that Sideshow stood up and addressed the issue head on!

 

[iron.jedi83]

EX PZ PF 100
regular PZ PF 300
International Edition PZ PF 125

now if you think about it each version is different. even if the IE one just has "International Edition" written on the bottom of the base, its still different. this isnt like the Doom PF or i believe the Hulk PF where they actually increased the ES, this is a different run with a change on it to make it International Edition. its not like your going to go on EBay to get the Reg PF and when you receive it, it will have "International Edition" on it cause the guy you bought from thought that both the Reg and IE were the same. Heck you might have a hard time tracking down the IE one if you really wanted one since they only made 125 of those

 

[Trustey]

Haha. Man this thread and peoples outrage is funny.

All I can say is...

Does +125 de-value the statue? Not by much at all, if any.

However,

Very shady move (becoming a trend) on Sideshows part. They should have just listed it on the items page and been up front about what is in fact an edition size increase. It's like sending the cops out on ticket rampages for taxation, cmon just call it what it is. You wanted some extra $ off this and saw an easy buck.

 

[Darklord Dave]

Haha. Man this thread and peoples outrage is funny.

. You wanted some extra $ off this and saw an easy buck.

I think Dusty made it clear that the money is negligible to Sideshow. It's the relations with the international dealers (and through them, the international fans) that is important. You can't keep the most popular stuff away from your international dealers or they'll just stop dealing with you. Maintaining these relationships is far more significant than bringing in a couple of bucks that wouldn't even pay for one of the banners at the SDCC booth.

 

[DinoLast]

I agree with what you are saying here. However I also expect an element of truth in advertising. A L.E. of 300 should be a L.E. of 300. End of story. And as far as flipping goes, I've probably got S.S. pieces that are older than you are.

Do you know how hard it is to be an overseas collector?
It's bloody hard and it costs a lot more money because of shipping and Tax, plus we have less allocation in Europe.
P!TU rocks, because he gets it, and you don't

 

[Bamboota]

You guys need to stop with the P!tu praising! I can see his head getting bigger and bigger and bigger....

 

[Shai]

Seems there will always be some controversy around the Patient Zero character....


I think Sideshow and the statue compagnies in general should stop putting ES on their products.Look at Hot Toys and other action figures..Their stuff still becomes valuable....Not because of ES but because different other factors (like popularity of character,quality of sculpt,ect).Without ES people would buy what they actually really want and would stop buying with the intent of makin money..

 

[brewt1mer]

Wow. Why all the hate toward Pitu? He is not employed by Sideshow. He does what he does because he loves it. He's the definition of 'kid at heart'. And how on earth does Pitu have anything to do with the Patient Zero International Edition??

Anyway, I suppose many of you remember the issue with Dr. Doom a few years ago? When the edition size was upped after the fact, due to a mistake processing manual orders taken at Comic-Con? (and that was the EXCLUSIVE edition)

This time, instead of upping the edition size (which, by the way, has not hurt the secondary market value of the Exclusive Doom AT ALL), they made a new edition to appease their international distributors. Yes, THAT is why it was done, no matter what conspiracy theorists would like to believe... does anyone REALLY think it was done only for the MONEY?? In the grand scheme of Sideshow's yearly business, 125 extra Patient Zeros is a pretty minute amount of cash (and you have to remember that distributors don't even pay retail price for them). Think of it as another form of customer service and going the extra mile - only this time the customer is not a specific individual, but their very important global distribution partners. And that's all I've got to say about this

yes collectors in the uk such as myself would like to have the chance to get our hands on limited runs before the usa collectors gobble them all up...its only fair isnt it!!!

 

[Something Sexy]

I think Dusty made it clear that the money is negligible to Sideshow. It's the relations with the international dealers (and through them, the international fans) that is important. You can't keep the most popular stuff away from your international dealers or they'll just stop dealing with you. Maintaining these relationships is far more significant than bringing in a couple of bucks that wouldn't even pay for one of the banners at the SDCC booth.

That also helps my point about the money though. Yes, they did this to keep up relations and not make immediate money BUT if they didn't do it they in the end could think this would hurt their relations with international dealers and maybe stop some of them from stocking or purchasing their stuff and in the end hurt their profit. In the end it is still about making a profit, that is why it is in business. Someone at SSC just saw the big picture, hurt them now and they may now buy from us later.

 

[Kibishii]

I really think this thread has run its course...now we just need some pictures of Tom Cruise, dolphins, and crying babies.

 

[Something Sexy]

I really think this thread has run its course...now we just need some pictures of Tom Cruise, dolphins, and crying babies.

I agree, I hope my friendly discussion didn't come off as whining. I am glad everyone who wanted this statue could get one, especially people from overseas, I can't image how hard it must be to collect some of this stuff sometimes.

 

[jbinny]

I really think this thread has run its course...now we just need some pictures of Tom Cruise, dolphins, and crying babies.

what about Tom Cruise riding a crying baby dolphin?

 

[DarkDaysinVegas]

the damn thing needs more cow bell!

 

[DarkDaysinVegas]

Jake what do you think about the Patient Zero PF?

 

[xenofreak]

I really think this thread has run its course...now we just need some pictures of Tom Cruise, dolphins, and crying babies.

I've been waiting for the perfect time to use this:

 

[Darklord Dave]

I think Sideshow and the statue compagnies in general should stop putting ES on their products.Look at Hot Toys and other action figures..Their stuff still becomes valuable....Not because of ES but because different other factors (like popularity of character,quality of sculpt,ect).Without ES people would buy what they actually really want and would stop buying with the intent of makin money..

I actually agree with this. But then there would be an outrage because they aren't numbered. Part of why these things are collectible is the limited number.

SSC reveals the edition size and HT doesn't, but they don't continue to produce them - they just release a new version. Both are still collectible.

 

[DinoLast]

I agree with Shai too. Look at some of the Weta Sideshow busts and statues that do not have ES, hasn't stopped them increasing in value

 

[Patient Zero]

I love numbered collectibles, I do not see the problem with them, or doing a PZ international EX.

If anyone has International PZ 009, let's work out a deal.

 

[Mesa]

I would probably be more upset if SS didn't disclose the ES or number the items. I like knowing that there is a sequential order to the items. May also help in the counterfeit department too.

Please SS, do not listen to this numberless nonsense.

 

[Fritz]

It took over a week to sell out the regular so to me there was plenty of time for international dealers to get some or to allocate a portion of the edition size for international distributors.

However, I totally agree that making more money wasn't the sole reason behind this. Like Dave said, the profits from 125 more pieces don't make that much difference to Sideshow.