Iron Man Mark II Life Size Bust

[jbinny]

Ok...lets be real people. For one...this bust HAD to have come from the returned pieces. Im sure a mark II in the exact same pose was NEVER PLANNED or a coincidence .....it was used as a quick fix after the complaints started pouring in to recoupe the $$$ invested. They could have made the ES out of 50....this piece is still not worth $800. Then to add insult to injury they label it the Mark III......what the hell SS!....Did the ink used in that extra "I" cost $100??
IMO, this bust is not collectors piece....its more of a "do it yourself kit".
Im willing to bet the 1/2 maquette will follow closely in this busts foot steps and at twice the price.....double the money, double the fun I guess.
I think SS should take a break for IM stuff for a while....

Chris

Actually, you're wrong.

This piece most likely isn't just a bunch of repaints as IT WAS PLANNED. A contact of mine at Marvel confirmed that a MarkII version was in the works, if not already produced, quite some time before the MarkIII was even released.
Misprints happen all the time... get over it. If you think Sideshow is screwing everyone over so bad, quit shoveling money their way. Until then, STFU and quit ripping on a company over something you obviously know nothing about.

Ignorance truly is bliss, isn't it?

 

[quadcent]

choked chicken!???!?!

whhatttt, they don't take livestock as payment

 

[OCP]

Ok...lets be real people. For one...this bust HAD to have come from the returned pieces. Im sure a mark II in the exact same pose was NEVER PLANNED or a coincidence .....it was used as a quick fix after the complaints started pouring in to recoupe the $$$ invested. They could have made the ES out of 50....this piece is still not worth $800. Then to add insult to injury they label it the Mark III......what the hell SS!....Did the ink used in that extra "I" cost $100??
IMO, this bust is not collectors piece....its more of a "do it yourself kit".
Im willing to bet the 1/2 maquette will follow closely in this busts foot steps and at twice the price.....double the money, double the fun I guess.
I think SS should take a break for IM stuff for a while....

Chris

In my opinion, it's the most collectible of the Iron Man busts since it's the only one that's numbered. And if Sideshow makes Iron Man 2 busts, which is likely, this will become very sought after as many collectors will be trying to complete the set.

 

[Atheris]

Actually, you're wrong.

This piece most likely isn't just a bunch of repaints as IT WAS PLANNED. A contact of mine at Marvel confirmed that a MarkII version was in the works, if not already produced, quite some time before the MarkIII was even released.
Misprints happen all the time... get over it. If you think Sideshow is screwing everyone over so bad, quit shoveling money their way. Until then, STFU and quit ripping on a company over something you obviously know nothing about.

Ignorance truly is bliss, isn't it?

Wow....relax on the hostility there pal. If the Mark II was planned...why did it come 2nd?. If it was planned why is it the only version of the bust that are NUMBERED?. If their ever was a Mark II in the works I would bet it wasnt going to share the EXACT same pose as the Mark III..they most likley had something new in the works for that. But when they ended getting back...I dont know "100 busts or so" they thought HEY...PERFECT...instead of dumping more money into the production of a NEW Mark II lets just repaint the ones returned to recoupe the cash. If you cant see that pal....then I have some things I would like to sell you:

Limted edition blue PF hellboy 1 of 1

Limited edition PF Darkness sporting a cowboy hat 1 of 20

Limited edition 1:1 T-800 endo that sings "im to sexy for my skin" 1 of 5




Chris

 

[Skiman]

Wow....relax on the hostility there pal. If the Mark II was planned...why did it come 2nd?. If it was planned why is it the only version of the bust that are NUMBERED?. If their ever was a Mark II in the works I would bet it wasnt going to share the EXACT same pose as the Mark III..they most likley had something new in the works for that. But when they ended getting back...I dont know "100 busts or so" they thought HEY...PERFECT...instead of dumping more money into the production of a NEW Mark II lets just repaint the ones returned to recoupe the cash. If you cant see that pal....then I have some things I would like to sell you:

Limted edition blue PF hellboy 1 of 1

Limited edition PF Darkness sporting a cowboy hat 1 of 20

Limited edition 1:1 T-800 endo that sings "im to sexy for my skin" 1 of 5




Chris

Binny, I would jump all over this one

 

[jbinny]

Wow....relax on the hostility there pal. If the Mark II was planned...why did it come 2nd?. If it was planned why is it the only version of the bust that are NUMBERED?. If their ever was a Mark II in the works I would bet it wasnt going to share the EXACT same pose as the Mark III..they most likley had something new in the works for that. But when they ended getting back...I dont know "100 busts or so" they thought HEY...PERFECT...instead of dumping more money into the production of a NEW Mark II lets just repaint the ones returned to recoupe the cash. If you cant see that pal....then I have some things I would like to sell you:

Limted edition blue PF hellboy 1 of 1

Limited edition PF Darkness sporting a cowboy hat 1 of 20

Limited edition 1:1 T-800 endo that sings "im to sexy for my skin" 1 of 5




Chris

Why wouldn't it share the exact same pose, it's a bust. Not too many variations on a shoulders-up pose.
If you don't believe me about the MKII, ask Mike or quadcent. I believe they're the only two I shared this info with when I heard about the MKII bust. Heck, I was predicting it before the MKIIIs even shipped.
Don't believe me about my contact at Marvel? Take a look at quadcent's collection and ask him where the Marvel sample pieces came from.

Talk all you want, but you're just proving your ignorance.

 

[quadcent]

b b b b b but i'm a canadian

honestly i don't know wth that statement means, i just threw it out there

 

[The Mike]

He is right. I've known about the Mark 2 since the Mark 3 was announced. It was what a lot of us were waiting on. The idea was to create an armory of sorts with the different designs. It isn't a repaint but even if they took the MK3 returns they'd still have to spray it and stamp it which automatically makes it more than a repaint because of the retooling of the original.

For Iron man 2 it looks like the MK4 and the MK5 while have structural differences share the same look from the shoulders up, so I would imagine we'd only get one offering from IM2 probably the MK5. Imagine placing them all together and you'd get the progression from MK2, to MK3 to MK3 BD to an MK4 or MK5. It creates an armory that is more affordable than 1:1s like in Stark's armory.

That isn't the issue, the issue is simply that the QC at SSC needs to be reworked severely to stop mistakes on high ticket items nothing more.

 

[quadcent]

for the amount that these things actually cost ssc, it's not worth their time to rework, strip down a piece like the mark III, convert him over to a markII and repaint him at the labour rates that they'd have to pay over here. it's just easier and cheaper to reorder a completely different sculpt from china.

now the markIII BD version is another story. since the returns were most likely going to go into the garbage anyways. i think they just took a hammer and chisel to them and added some paint and presto another way to sell a bunch of defective pieces.....

 

[roms]

I just got this email from SIDESHOW today:

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Dear Collector,

Thank you for your patience in the fulfillment of your Iron Man, Mark II, Life Size Bust.

We pre-authorized your order for this item (#2976) on the 6th of November. However, there has been an extended delay in receiving this item into our warehouse from the port and the charge card pre-authorization will drop off. We are now expecting to receive this item the week of December 7th, at which time we will rerun the pre-authorization amount. Please have the appropriate funds available at that time.

We apologize for this delay and any inconvenience that this may have caused. If you have any questions or concerns regarding this order, please feel free to contact me directly.


Best regards,

Michael Tolentino
Customer Service Coordinator
Sideshow Collectibles
2630 Conejo Spectrum Street
Thousand Oaks, CA 91320 USA

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It's really great & very professional of SIDESHOW for informing & updating their customers for instances like these.

I am pretty sure this collectible will be well worth the wait!

 

[Bodie The Cursed]

FIASCO!!!!!!!

 

[jbinny]

FIASCO!!!!!!!

Lupe?????????????

 

[Fritz]

I checked my account and I wasn't charged yet so I guess I'll wait until December.

From all the pictures I've seen, this is the best looking Iron Man bust so far and the one to own.

Now, when's the Stealth version coming?

 

[Darth Lam]

Just got an email saying that my waitlist is going to convert! I'm very excited to get this bust, regardless of what the label will say.

 

[Cozmictoyz]

He is right. I've known about the Mark 2 since the Mark 3 was announced. It was what a lot of us were waiting on. The idea was to create an armory of sorts with the different designs. It isn't a repaint but even if they took the MK3 returns they'd still have to spray it and stamp it which automatically makes it more than a repaint because of the retooling of the original.


That isn't the issue, the issue is simply that the QC at SSC needs to be reworked severely to stop mistakes on high ticket items nothing more.

Well, to be honest there would be no "re-tooling" involved on a repaint, so I'm not sure what you mean there. Resin statues and busts typically come out of silicone molds and there are no "tools" involved with the exception being the electronics and the base, but they are identical on both so again no re-tooling needed. Depending upon the cost of the casting itself it could very well be cheaper to sand it down and put on the new paint job.

Now, that's not to say that the MK2 wasn't planned all along, which I"m sure it was, but it's also entirely possible that they used some of the returned MK3's in order to achieve this.

Keep in mind that factories don't like to stop and start production runs, so if SSC really planned on doing both from the beginning it would have been more cost effective for them to produce enough castings to do both the MK2 and MK3 from the get go. But to stop and start projects like that is a hassle for the factory, because if SS came back 2 months later and said OK make 100 more but make it this color, it would require the factory to set up the entire line again and presumably push back other projects they were working on.

Of course anything is possible, especially since SSC has a long standing relationship with that factory, but in general it's just easier to do any variant repaints along with the regular production run.

 

[nash]

Well, to be honest there would be no "re-tooling" involved on a repaint, so I'm not sure what you mean there. Resin statues and busts typically come out of silicone molds and there are no "tools" involved with the exception being the electronics and the base, but they are identical on both so again no re-tooling needed. Depending upon the cost of the casting itself it could very well be cheaper to sand it down and put on the new paint job.

Now, that's not to say that the MK2 wasn't planned all along, which I"m sure it was, but it's also entirely possible that they used some of the returned MK3's in order to achieve this.

Keep in mind that factories don't like to stop and start production runs, so if SSC really planned on doing both from the beginning it would have been more cost effective for them to produce enough castings to do both the MK2 and MK3 from the get go. But to stop and start projects like that is a hassle for the factory, because if SS came back 2 months later and said OK make 100 more but make it this color, it would require the factory to set up the entire line again and presumably push back other projects they were working on.

Of course anything is possible, especially since SSC has a long standing relationship with that factory, but in general it's just easier to do any variant repaints along with the regular production run.

if it was just a repaint, it wouldnt have the rivets now would it?

The Mark III Battle damage....now that is a repaint.

 

[Cozmictoyz]

Well, that all depends really but I don't think it would be that difficult to add in that detail. Without having one myself to look at closely it would be hard to say one way or another.

I'm fine giving them the benefit of the doubt, but my point was more about that fact that there would be no "re-tooling" involved, at least from a machine tool standpoint. You can make changes to the mold to add rivets if you so chose or even just hand detail those in.

 

[aficionado]

Don't know what the big deal is.

What's the difference between the PF Hulk EX ?? paint.

What's the differnece between the PF Spiderman. Paint, color, camera.

What's the difference between the Talon PF, Cape.


This bust is a 100 edition Mark II. End of story.


No one should care how or when it was made, now, and even less will care a year or two from now, when this baby will be selling for
$2000+

 

[quadcent]

Don't know what the big deal is.

What's the difference between the PF Hulk EX ?? paint.

What's the differnece between the PF Spiderman. Paint, color, camera.

What's the difference between the Talon PF, Cape.


This bust is a 100 edition Mark II. End of story.


No one should care how or when it was made, now, and even less will care a year or two from now, when this baby will be selling for
$2000+

didn't buy it now, and i def won't buy then. cause i'm sure the shaking during shipping will leave the chrome paint in the bottom of the box..

 

[jbinny]

Well, that all depends really but I don't think it would be that difficult to add in that detail. Without having one myself to look at closely it would be hard to say one way or another.

I'm fine giving them the benefit of the doubt, but my point was more about that fact that there would be no "re-tooling" involved, at least from a machine tool standpoint. You can make changes to the mold to add rivets if you so chose or even just hand detail those in.

It was planned and they aren't repaints. You missed out and you're bitter about it now... we'll leave it at that.