Is Sideshow gearing itself AWAY from 1/6 Figures?

[dekadentdave]

They catered to a market being ignored and what did they do? They turned around and ignored them. Granted, those lines were never gonna be profitable for them but another company could still produce them and cater directly to that niche market.

 

[nash]

I agree, sideshow is definitely pushing the bar in their statues and the asian companies are pushing the bar in the 1/6th.

 

[King Darkness]

"My toys are better than your toys"

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[TheObsoleteMan]

They catered to a market being ignored and what did they do? They turned around and ignored them

I wouldn't say that. UM, POTA and Buffy had numeorus releases and ran longer than any other recent 1/6 lines I can think of. As much as we may hate to admit it, no line can last forever. If Sideshow did let those licenses go, I don't see HT or Medicom rushing to pick them up.

 

[Ven]

this is the PERFECT example why I stay away from threads like this.

I caved after seeing that pic that king posted... HAHHAHAHHAHAH

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

Except for a slight derailment, I think this has been one of the more civil debates we've had on this board in some time.

 

[Fubeca]

I am beginning to think that Sideshow is gearing itself away from 1/6 Figures and more towards statues,replicas,etc.

What's everyone else's take on this?

Good Riddance! :emperor

 

[EVILFACE]

And what licenses are those? I imagine alot of the ones SS has had are ones no one else wanted anyways.

Hogans Heroes? Get Smart? I doubt there was much trouble getting those.

Good and in demand licenses they don't have are covered already. HT has done Robocop, Rambo, the important Terminators, movie Superman and Batman. Medicom as released some mostly updated Toy Biz Famous Covers looking Marvel characters. DCD has the DC Superheroes.

The only licenses they can make figures from that I'm interested in is a flashback Reese from T2, F13 Roy and Jason 8, Universal Monsters Henry Frankenstein and Ygor, any The Dead, and the Star Wars line.

And as much as I would like, I don't think we will get a Minigun Terminator and Bikercop T1000.

 

[Agent0028]

And yes, arguing with Josh is pointless

I think realizing that is a rite of passage on this board. Once you do it, you're one of us.

 

[pixletwin]

This is what it comes down to for me:

1) Who possesses the licences I love most (LOTR and, yes, $TAR WAR$)?

SSC

2) Who prices 1:6 in a range my wife can live with? (sometimes)

SSC

3) Who has the most kick assery customer service in the toy world?

SSC

Besides all this stuff, Sideshow figures just have something special about them. Even the really crappy ones.

Its OK for you to like Hot Toys/Medicom/Hasbro/whomever more and still be here.

Discussions like this are in the end pointlessly entertaining.

Go Josh Go Josh Go Josh-Josh GO!!!!!!!

(and yes, running ones head into the brick wall that is Josh's resolve is a rite of sorts around here).

 

[rw23]

In the end who really cares what company makes the best, they're just "toys" afterall!

 

[The Josh]

Go Josh Go Josh Go Josh-Josh GO!!!!!!!

(and yes, running ones head into the brick wall that is Josh's resolve is a rite of sorts around here).

I'll take that as a compliement.

 

[Vince]

I think we have to admit Sideshow it producing less figures then they used too. Only two real lines left with SW and LOTR only 4 figures so far.
The Dead is only one per year, and Terminator isn't that much.


I don't think they will give up, but they did end a lot of really interesting lines.

I'm thinking Universal Monsters, Outer Limits, Twilight Zone, POTA, X-Files

All those lines had a lot of potential.
Sure UM was a great line and they made most of the figures, they were all great. But their are still many left to be made !

I hope someday they bring back those lines ...

 

[Ironman1188]

LOTR is probably the most difficult line they've ever done. There's no other reason IMO. Lot's of R&D.



Buffy is the only one and MAYBE Angel that has any shelf life left. POTA and Highlander are so stale they've been pitched. There's a reason nobody is doing products of them anymore.



Are there that many POTA figures overall that could have flooded the market? Buffy did have problems AS I'VE SAID. Delivering characters I think with Buffy was them trying to get everyone out. Buffy fans should open their mind to all the characters IMO. As far as Ramirez I believe his likeness wasn't available and Kurgan would have been nice for those that wanted hum, but for a line that nobody was buying from could be too $$$ to do.



So you're only objective if you think someone is doing better than SS? I don't that's my right and doesn't make me "not" objective.



SS will have no doubts delivering better because IMO they have.



How about IS great.



You're very bitter. Not as bad as Kodiak but man you're getting there. If you cannot refer to Star Wars and Sideshow without the "$" then I'm done talking with you. As you cannot be an adult.

So, lets see. If we don't like $ide$how as much as you, we're beneath you? Thats the impression you're giving. If you still think $ide$how's basic body, that they've been using since the start, can compare to anyone else's on the market, that their sculpts are better than everyone elses, that their accessories haven't ranged from minimal to just plain cheap, than you're not being objective. Sure $ide$how has had some truly great stuff, but their not on par any more.
I'm not bitter, just stating things the way I see them. My opinion. As for you being done talking to me? I wasn't talking to YOU to begin with. Who appointed you the knight in shining armor to defend $$C all the time.
I can't be an adult? You can't read any non-pro $ide$how post without going into attack mode. Hell, if a little "$" sets you off I can't help but wonder what you'd do if you were told to **** OFF.

I wouldn't say that. UM, POTA and Buffy had numeorus releases and ran longer than any other recent 1/6 lines I can think of. As much as we may hate to admit it, no line can last forever. If Sideshow did let those licenses go, I don't see HT or Medicom rushing to pick them up.

Part of that may be that no company wants to take on the license just for the missing characters.
As to this whole likeness issue:
If you're on the arguing side of $ide$how makes the best sculpts out there, then I simply ask you to be openminded and read some threads on this forum as well as others. There are many more threads/posts regarding sculpts being "off", in need of repainting, in need of resculpting, etc... than there are praising them. And thats from a company that HAS the likeness rights.
Hot Toys has loopholed around the likeness rights, and yes they still need repainting, but look how great Ripley and Hicks and Drake are. The sculpts are pretty much dead on, without likeness rights, just buried under some unattractive paint to get them released. And, regarding likenesses, the whole argument of not being able to do Ramirez because of likeness issues falls flat when you look at Brent having been offered.

 

[The Josh]

If all that floats your boat then hippy horray for you.

 

[chamildav]

Before I was aware of Sideshow Toys they were more or less a garage producer founded by sculptors and had begun selling resin and (I believe) vinyl sculptures. They were direct sales items sold in small numbers to specialized collectors. This is a company founded on the abilities of the sculptors.
I started collecting Sideshow figures with the 1/8th scale Universal Monsters which was SS's first significant license. Those were mass marketed in TRU, Target and other brick and mortar retail outlets and I suspect they sold quite a few. They are still among the nicest sculpts created for this medium.
Later they expanded the relationship with Universal and began marketing 1/6th scale figures of the Universal Monsters. These could be found in retail outlets like Spencers Gifts and also were produced in significant volume. Next the James Bond line and various TV licenses such as Twilight Zone, Outer Limits and some of the others mentioned earlier in this thread.
We then started seeing LotR statues and busts, Simpsons, Froud, and various other sculpture lines released, and a change of emphasis from brick and mortar outlets to online etailers and direct sales. The Universal Monsters and other 1/6th licenses continued to be produced but generally in smaller numbers and with an emphasis on cross promtion of lines like Hellboy or Bond to include statues, busts, PF's and other items.
More recently Sideshow Collectibles was able to obtain the ultimate movie license, Star Wars, and has been producing figures at a pretty rapid rate, and in larger volume than weve seen since those old 1/6th monsters at brick and mortar outlet days. And I don't want to leave out LotR 1/6th either as a very important license.
The reason I mentioned all of the things that I did was simply to make the point every product type SSC has ever produced excepting the 1/8th hard plastic figures is currently in production with SSC today. The licenses have changed as they are wont to do, the marketing and sales outlets also, but the 1/6th figures carry on. I don't think 1/6th is going away any time soon. Just some licensed products that many of us here dearly loved are on hiatus. Well, sometimes worse than hiatus. Sad, but hope still lives as long as 1/6th production continues in some form at SSC. I don't believe 1/6th is anything like dead.

 

[Viking28]

Well said cham

 

[The Josh]

Well said cham

I agree very well said.

 

[Ironman1188]

If all that floats your boat then hippy horray for you.

Ok, Everybody!! Let's just agree with Josh. It'll be easier than asking him to just be objective when it comes to $ide$how.

 

[dekadentdave]

Ok, Everybody!! Let's just agree with Josh. It'll be easier than asking him to just be objective when it comes to $ide$how.

Um.... nah.