James Cameron's AVATAR discussion thread

[robomorph]

Re: I saw AVATAR in 3D!

3D tv=expensive fad destined for fail

Not a chance. It's the next thing, better get used to the idea.

At the latest CES (Consumer Electronics Show), Sony unveiled 4 new 3DTV LED sets, with further models from Samsung and Toshiba. ESPN is about to launch an all-new 3D TV channel, and the Vancouver Winter Olympics are being shot in 3D. Add that to major movies like Toy Story 3 and Alice in Wonderland being shot in 3D (with more to follow), and it's easy to see a major market for this developing. The new TVs will even convert 2D to 3D viewing to help the new format become established. And the prices aren't even going to be much dearer than ordinary 2D sets.

The TV of the future will almost certainly be some sort of holographic/3D experience, and this is just the first step towards that. It might not replace 2D viewing anytime soon but it's certainly going to be a major trend in the home theatre market - especially for movie and sports fans.

 

[pixletwin]

Re: I saw AVATAR in 3D!

Avatar was good.

District 9 was far far FAR superior in almost every way.

 

[King Darkness]

Re: I saw AVATAR in 3D!

It's the next thing, better get used to the idea.

No thnx .

 

[Khev]

Re: I saw AVATAR in 3D!

If 3D TV's really won't be any more than $200-$300 more than their current counterparts I see no reason why they wouldn't be mainstream in 2-3 years.

 

[IrishJedi]

Re: I saw AVATAR in 3D!

Avatar was good.

District 9 was far far FAR superior in almost every way.

By the way, even CNN has picked up the story of the sad AVATAR Acolytes: https://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/11/avatar.movie.blues/index.html

 

[Khev]

Re: I saw AVATAR in 3D!

Avatar was good.

District 9 was far far FAR superior in almost every way.

Quit being a "Distard." Did District 9 make you want to go to Africa and have sex with a cockroach? Didn't think so. Fail.

 

[King Darkness]

Re: I saw AVATAR in 3D!

Why would you have to go to Africa to have sex with a cockroach? Dont we have plenty here in America?

 

[pixletwin]

Re: I saw AVATAR in 3D!

Honestly... I sat there thinking "this was a better movie when it was called Dances with Wolves".

It was good. The FX/animation was top notch. But it sure didn't make me want to have sex with a blue alien... you must have something wrong with you if you did.

 

[King Darkness]

Re: I saw AVATAR in 3D!

I dont think this movie was Mormon friendly.

 

[galactiboy]

Amazing this film is still able to hold onto #1... not like it had a lot of competition this week. But I really thought that Sherlock Holmes would do the job early on.

For all the negative reactions people seem to have, its still resonating with audiences. I've been surprised how many people I know that have seen this that never see movies in the theater; and generally really enjoy the film.

 

[IrishJedi]

Re: I saw AVATAR in 3D!

Quit being a "Distard." Did District 9 make you want to go to Africa and have sex with a cockroach?

No. So yet another check in DISTRICT 9's favor.

 

[pixletwin]

Re: I saw AVATAR in 3D!

 

[Shropt]

 

[Wanderer]

I assume you're kidding.

-- If so, its an amusing but ridiculous parody of the bizarre obsession that this movie seems to have engendered.

-- If you're not, grow a pair and quit your whining. "Seek help" if you must ... but I'm not sure a $400/hr. psychologist is going to be able to force you to grow a pair and quit your whining ...

SnakeDoc

Genuine post from some looney over @ the Avatar forums..The fact the o.p mentions he'd hurt his kid is the most disturbing thing about it ...

 

[LOTRFan]

When Star Wars dethroned E.T. as the #1 highest grossing domestic box office film of all time in early 1997 Steven Spielberg commissioned Drew Struzan to paint this full page ad for Variety magazine depicting E.T. handing the crown over to R2-D2.

A year later Lucas commissioned a similar ad showing the cast of Star Wars sinking on the Titanic.

If Avatar overtakes Titanic will Cameron take out a full page ad congratulating himself?

He should have Jake Sulley standing on the bow of the Titanic.

 

[Khev]

He should have Jake Sulley standing on the bow of the Titanic.

"I'm the King of the Universe!" That would go over well with his critics.

 

[ironwez20]

Re: I saw AVATAR in 3D!

Yea D9 was not better then avatar imo, and enough with the dances with wolves crap seriously , i dont recall them having flying dragons taking down helicopters in dances with wolves.

 

[Geil]

Re: I saw AVATAR in 3D!

Not a chance. It's the next thing, better get used to the idea.

At the latest CES (Consumer Electronics Show), Sony unveiled 4 new 3DTV LED sets, with further models from Samsung and Toshiba. ESPN is about to launch an all-new 3D TV channel, and the Vancouver Winter Olympics are being shot in 3D. Add that to major movies like Toy Story 3 and Alice in Wonderland being shot in 3D (with more to follow), and it's easy to see a major market for this developing. The new TVs will even convert 2D to 3D viewing to help the new format become established. And the prices aren't even going to be much dearer than ordinary 2D sets.

The TV of the future will almost certainly be some sort of holographic/3D experience, and this is just the first step towards that. It might not replace 2D viewing anytime soon but it's certainly going to be a major trend in the home theatre market - especially for movie and sports fans.

I don't want to write up another long passage so here are a few points to consider:
- Consumer electronics makers are always struggling to find the next big thing that balances investment vs margin
- Consumers are perfectly happy with the current entry or mid level models as PQ has greatly improved but the margin is oh so low
- no real new tech (240Hz is not real advancement and local dimming and blackest of black most do not care enough to pay for, real large panels cannot be sold for much less without cutting even further into their margins) is coming down the pipeline that can help balance this as they cannot invest into the real new tech in this financial climate e.g. OLEDs etc
- also indicator... have you seen those beautiful superthin and almost no bezel LCDs? tech is not even the latest everything but charging $$$ for it
- margin on these "new" 3D sets are great cause this great tech is really nothing new. Just needs to be a true 120+Hz panel and a way to sync your glasses to the frame rate (look at the NVidia 3D gaming glasses)
- this fits their scheme but convincing a majority of consumers is a different story
- making a quick buck is what this is about
- remember it's not just the TV! new Blu-Ray players, new Blu-Ray movies, glasses and plenty of it.
- Those "simple" glasses (still costing hundreds each) in the theaters are using polarized filters to filter the frames
- the ones we need for 3D TV is based on different tech and would need to be "in sync" and wired, wireless are sure to come at a price
- only way I can see 3D to work at home is 3D projectors that much like IMAX 3D sends two separate intertwined feeds that go through a alternating polarizing filter and only then you can use those glasses you had in the movies.
- I loved the movie on IMAX for it's 3D but I cannot imagine how it will be on my petite 52" at 10ft away
- remember many times Avatars 3D was different because instead of poking at you with individual objects they drag you into the movie by extending out the environment e.g branches of bushes and trees etc and those are the scenes that are immersive

Damn it ended up being so long afterall

 

[Sithlord1975]

Amazing this film is still able to hold onto #1... not like it had a lot of competition this week. But I really thought that Sherlock Holmes would do the job early on.

For all the negative reactions people seem to have, its still resonating with audiences. I've been surprised how many people I know that have seen this that never see movies in the theater; and generally really enjoy the film.

But there isn't alot of negative reaction. Just the 10 people on this board, and few others around the world. But it's a grain of pandoran dust compared to the millions who enjoyed the ride in theatres in 3D.

 

[galactiboy]

Right, not an overwhelming negative reaction... but a decent amount of complaints regarding originality/etc.