James Cameron's AVATAR discussion thread
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Sithlord1975
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What? Nobody bashing the CG, the trailer, or fanboys today?
Here's the latest pic released. Pretty impressive if you ask me.
Looks amazing. I'm buyin' it. The more I see these aliens and that chick, the more it's gonna make it seem they are part of that world and reality.
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What? Nobody bashing the CG, the trailer, or fanboys today?
Here's the latest pic released. Pretty impressive if you ask me.
That picture is damn impressive.
lightwave000
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According to reliable sources the movie is finished with cutting and now till the end of November James Cameron is doing nothing but working on the CG. They said he has two "versions" of the Avatars and Na'vi. One is more of a matte look and the other is a shinier glossy look. Not sure which he will use. I think the reason so many thought that Davy Jones looked so real from Pirates is because he had that wet look to him which kinda cheats as far as CG goes because its not comparable to a person or skin and easier to accomplish.
If he puts more of a oily or sweat look to the creatures I think people might buy it more but I think this pic is pretty much spot on. I wonder if its one of the finished renders.
They said that if 1 computer was rendering all these shots it would take 1500 years!!!!
agen_kolar
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I actually thought Davy Jones looked unrealistic when he was "wet," like in the end battle of At World's End. He definitely looked realistic when he had "dry" closeups, like his first scene in Dead Man's Chest when he asks the sailors if they fear death, and his first scene in At World's end, where he's sitting at his organ, crying. You can really see the detail put into his skin and tentacles in those scenes.
Anyway, that's a cool new photo - I really hope the CG in this blows me away. It looks good, for sure, but I'm not quite convinced yet. If past James Cameron films have any comparison to this, I'll probably enjoy the movie regardless of the CG.
lightwave000
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Very well put
Part of what made Davy Jones look real is that really a lot of him could have been done with a person in makeup, with added CG tentacles. But for this, there's obviously no other way to do it but full CG.
As for rendering, I think they said that for Transformers 2 if would have taken 1 computer 16,000 years to render the movie.
Pretty impressive what power they have in the render farms. I remember with King Kong they must have been doing like 200 shots a week when they were getting to the deadline. And still no one has had more effects shots in a movie than King Kong.
BadMoon
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This pretty much sums up what I was trying to say about the screenshots. It is a review from the Galdiator blueray but the same can be said about the Avatar Screenshots.
A screenshot represents 1/24 of a second of film. For a 2-hour film, that just 1/172,800th of the total visual information. You just can't properly judge a transfer based upon that little information. Screenshots CAN be illustrative of various kinds of image-related problems. But you really have to see the image in full motion to judge the complete context and impact of anything you see in a single frame grab. There's also the problem of potential alterations or artifacts that result from the frame-grabbing process itself, not to mention any changes resulting from image compression/editing software used by the poster - no matter how well intentioned - to present the frame-grab online. Finally, I've seen enough deliberately Photoshop doctored frame-grabs posted in discussion forums in my day that I just don't trust them. Ultimately, the only real way to judge these things properly is with your own eyes, first-hand, in context, in full motion, presented on proper equipment. Period.
A screenshot represents 1/24 of a second of film. For a 2-hour film, that just 1/172,800th of the total visual information. You just can't properly judge a transfer based upon that little information. Screenshots CAN be illustrative of various kinds of image-related problems. But you really have to see the image in full motion to judge the complete context and impact of anything you see in a single frame grab. There's also the problem of potential alterations or artifacts that result from the frame-grabbing process itself, not to mention any changes resulting from image compression/editing software used by the poster - no matter how well intentioned - to present the frame-grab online. Finally, I've seen enough deliberately Photoshop doctored frame-grabs posted in discussion forums in my day that I just don't trust them. Ultimately, the only real way to judge these things properly is with your own eyes, first-hand, in context, in full motion, presented on proper equipment. Period.
bagelsncheesey
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BadMoon
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Sounds like somebody did a lot of Google work for this post.
What are YOUR thoughts?
I have already posted the multiple times. This is just less douchey.
bagelsncheesey
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BadMoon
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Bamboota
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What? Nobody bashing the CG, the trailer, or fanboys today?
Here's the latest pic released. Pretty impressive if you ask me.
Looks awesome...but her eyes look a little fake
Regardless I love the character design!
lightwave000
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Looks awesome...but her eyes look a little fake
Regardless I love the character design!
YOU LOOK A LITTLE FAKE! I mean....yeah, cool character design ;-)
j/k not really....
but really
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Have to say, after watching the trailer again, I am more impressed. I think maybe you need to get over the initial reaction - they are big and blue and that's fake - to really appreciate the level of detail. At least I did.
Getting more excited....
Getting more excited....
lightwave000
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Have to say, after watching the trailer again, I am more impressed. I think maybe you need to get over the initial reaction - they are big and blue and that's fake - to really appreciate the level of detail. At least I did.
Getting more excited....
Thats how I felt
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Saw the Trailer in actual 3D... Wasn't moved by it at all. Will I see it.. yes. There was almost too much going on that the 3D was almost pointless.
The new Christmas Carol movie in 3D blew this trailer out of the water!!!
The new Christmas Carol movie in 3D blew this trailer out of the water!!!
lightwave000
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Hard to see in this pic but this is one of the 3D posters in some theaters right now for Avatar. Apparently FOX is pulling any auctions on eBay for them. In fact, I was told that the theaters aren't allowed to keep them-they have to send them back when they are done. A guy I know is hooking me up with one, but he said that with some of these kind of posters in the past, if they come up missing in transit when they send them back(employee theft) they will actually send people out to try and recover them. I wonder why, its just a poster. Well its actually really heavy and a little less than an inch thick. They are called lenticular posters. Have any of you seen these in your local theater?
lightwave000
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What would you guesstimate these to be worth? There aren't many available to the public and the few that are on forums are requesting anywhere from $200-500.
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