Jazzinc Dioramas 1/6 Ultimate Catwoman (Batman Returns, 1992)

[Mr. Awesome]

There's a tiny little thing that concerns me.

These lines you see in the suit texture. I've seen those very same lines in certain.. other figures.

@JazzInc

Can this be toned down or would the material allow it to be? You really have to be very close to it to even notice. Perhaps I'm making something from nothin here.

 

[JazzInc]

There's a tiny little thing that concerns me.

These lines you see in the suit texture. I've seen those very same lines in certain.. other figures.

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@JazzInc

Can this be toned down or would the material allow it to be? You really have to be very close to it to even notice. Perhaps I'm making something from nothin here.

Thank you. I appreciate saying that it is a tiny detail, however, this is only a mock up and it might not be the final fabric as we are still doing many tests. This is really about getting the body shape correct so that we can start the production for the body. The body is the key to move forward on everything else. We need the final production version of that so that we can adjust the size of the clothing, the hands, the boots and everything else. So, we still have many months to figure out the final fabric, and it will be a trade-off between durability and weave.

 

[Knedlo]

There's a tiny little thing that concerns me.

These lines you see in the suit texture. I've seen those very same lines in certain.. other figures.

Agreed, hopefully its not the same material Hot toys are using (for example arkham knight batman, arkham harley quinn ..), it tends to crease very easily. Some time ago I bougt on aliexpress black rubber vinyl sheet for my custom project. It comes in various thicknesses, its stretchy and glossy, so maybe it could be good material for this?

 

[Chopper Face]

I assume the thickness of the suit material at least needs to be determined prior to the finalisation of the body proportions, gloves, boots, corset etc. since a slightly thicker material choice will immediately throw everything else off.
At this scale, we’re only talking fractions of millimetres of difference but every little helps when aiming for ultimate accuracy.

If the ideal thickness is already locked into the decision process, you can just trial a bunch of different materials till you find the most suitable for texture, reflectiveness, flexibility, durability, anti-bunching, anti-staining, crease resistant, yada yada.

I’m loving all the insight here (and with Penguin,) and especially the community engagement and ego-free advice-seeking and implementation of genuine, constructive feedback.

 

[Mr. Awesome]

Thank you. I appreciate saying that it is a tiny detail, however, this is only a mock up and it might not be the final fabric as we are still doing many tests. This is really about getting the body shape correct so that we can start the production for the body. The body is the key to move forward on everything else. We need the final production version of that so that we can adjust the size of the clothing, the hands, the boots and everything else. So, we still have many months to figure out the final fabric, and it will be a trade-off between durability and weave.

I think I understand what you're saying. You're still working out the body so the rest can flow accordingly.

Keep up the great work guys.

 

[JazzInc]

Agreed, hopefully its not the same material Hot toys are using (for example arkham knight batman, arkham harley quinn ..), it tends to crease very easily. Some time ago I bougt on aliexpress black rubber vinyl sheet for my custom project. It comes in various thicknesses, its stretchy and glossy, so maybe it could be good material for this?

If you can give me that link, I am happy to add it to the test batches for materials. Do you have any experience with the durability? If so, how long?

 

[shadows]

Thank you. I appreciate saying that it is a tiny detail, however, this is only a mock up and it might not be the final fabric as we are still doing many tests. This is really about getting the body shape correct so that we can start the production for the body. The body is the key to move forward on everything else. We need the final production version of that so that we can adjust the size of the clothing, the hands, the boots and everything else. So, we still have many months to figure out the final fabric, and it will be a trade-off between durability and weave.

i'm sure that's true, but there's always going to be a compromise between the two? Would there be no way to make it durable and have accurate weave/textures? The company can achieve this later on will emerge the victor. But if we had to choose, I'd personally prefer better durability and have slight inaccuracy.

 

[WolfBoy]

I’d rather durability over perfect accuracy and i imagine most people would feel the same since this costs so much.

 

[Knedlo]

If you can give me that link, I am happy to add it to the test batches for materials. Do you have any experience with the durability? If so, how long?

I bought it here:
https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005...il_item.4.1372f19ckCNiIW&gatewayAdapt=glo2vnm

Durability depends mainly on thickness, i have different thicknesses and all seem pretty durable, 0,2 mm will tear only if stretched really too much, 0,4 mm and more did not tear at all. But if it will be stretched for long time, it may became little bit loose. It also requires special glue for vinyl, it cant be glued with CA or any other common glues. Surely you can find some other disadvantages, but its worth a try

 

[Captain Clown]

I’d rather durability over perfect accuracy and i imagine most people would feel the same since this costs so much.

Same here. As long as it’s shiny and black, and looks decent enough, while allowing her to pose a good bit, I’m more than happy.

It’ll be wildly frustrating if these started tearing and breaking down soon after release.

 

[Chopper Face]

As long as it’s shiny and black, and looks decent enough, while allowing her to pose a good bit

I’ll add smooth/un-textured to the list of my highest priorities.

That suit should look sprayed on as though she just stepped out of a black oil bath.

 

[ZE_501]

I’ll add smooth/un-textured to the list of my highest priorities.

That suit should look sprayed on as though she just stepped out of a black oil bath.

Unless @JazzInc finds a miracle textile I don't think that's a realistic expectation (I hope I'm wrong of course).

Anything that smooth and tight doesn't seem capable of posing without damage, not at 1/6th scale.

 

[Time_killer]

Is the preorder closed on this or can we still get one?

 

[Captain Clown]

Is the preorder closed on this or can we still get one?

 

[Chopper Face]

Is the preorder closed on this or can we still get one?

Looks like OSK still has all SKUs available.

https://onesixthkit.com/index.php?route=product/search&search=Catwoman

 

[JazzInc]

I bought it here:
https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005...il_item.4.1372f19ckCNiIW&gatewayAdapt=glo2vnm

Durability depends mainly on thickness, i have different thicknesses and all seem pretty durable, 0,2 mm will tear only if stretched really too much, 0,4 mm and more did not tear at all. But if it will be stretched for long time, it may became little bit loose. It also requires special glue for vinyl, it cant be glued with CA or any other common glues. Surely you can find some other disadvantages, but its worth a try

Excellent, thank you. I have ordered some and will include it in the tests!

 

[JazzInc]

Is the preorder closed on this or can we still get one?

you can still preorder for now

 

[JazzInc]

I bought it here:
https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005...il_item.4.1372f19ckCNiIW&gatewayAdapt=glo2vnm

Durability depends mainly on thickness, i have different thicknesses and all seem pretty durable, 0,2 mm will tear only if stretched really too much, 0,4 mm and more did not tear at all. But if it will be stretched for long time, it may became little bit loose. It also requires special glue for vinyl, it cant be glued with CA or any other common glues. Surely you can find some other disadvantages, but its worth a try

BTW, how long have you been using this material. Did you notice any flaking or deterioration during that time?

 

[Knedlo]

BTW, how long have you been using this material. Did you notice any flaking or deterioration during that time?

I have it for about 1 year and havent noticed any deterioration, its still as new, but I didnt do any long term stress tests.