JND Studios 1/6 scale Heath Ledger Joker figure

[DarthAlias]

JND releases their batch 1-2 weeks after their unboxings. May not see anything until next week.

 

[TheBatman]

You still get some fanboy drivel around here. People who lash out at others for giving constructive criticism. Brand loyalty and such and such...

Luckily since @TheBatman blocked me, I've not encountered it as much.

I did not block you. I was banned for getting into an argument with some dude over at the InArt Joker threads. I was being harassed yet I was the one banned.

 

[cpoll36]

I like the the base with the manhole cover. I'd really like one of those at least. Not too fussed about the rest

 

[Gipetto0812]

From James Park:
Style video guide coming over the weekend
Will start to ship next week on Monday

 

[Bleah]

Looks better there.

 

[Hologram AI]

Yeah digging the neutral sculpt there. Still looks overly textured but likeness looks good. Second sculpt is still just odd.

 

[Stanlore]

Called it the JND photos were too hi-res detailed, where the in-hand product lays in the middle between that and the soft filter live stream.

No, its not the greatest Joker ever made, but it looks similar to the prototype which is what i ordered. Happy to display this in my collection.

 

[Cap'n Cook]

Clothes still look so cheap.

 

[cokebabies]

He looks like he's been putting up drywall.

 

[intothevoid]

No amount of styling will make that sculpt look like Ledger.

 

[HyperDrive]

Some of y’all are oddly ok with dropping these large amounts saying things like “it’s good for mass production.”

Can this apply here? @Gipetto0812

 

[Gipetto0812]

Can this apply here? @Gipetto0812

It can, but I haven’t bought it

Not to mention, I haven’t used that phrase for this piece.

I’ve said that I’ve liked it, and thought about getting it. But I think it’s over priced and have mentioned I feel like I could get my ideal version by getting the HT and InArt sculpts redone while using the parts I have instead of spending money on this. I’ve also expressed my disappointments with this piece but they’re the same disappointments I’ve had with the proto, so nothing has changed in my feelings towards this.

Also, to keep things in context, I said that in regards to feeling like a drop in quality with the InArt Ron from proto to production. I’m not seeing that here. Taking likeness out of the equation, the JND figure itself looks like the prototype, if not better. I don’t see a drop from proto to production here.

 

[dominishin]

That coat texture reminds me of the dx11 bathrobe.

 

[Bravomite]

The technology used for the figure is really cool and interesting - however, I want my big 12 inch toys to be really realistic action figures that I can pose without fear of them falling apart or degrading. For that reason I dislike phicen or any rubber or silicone used on figures. That's just a personal preference.

If I were to buy this figure (and even with above preface, I did consider it) then I would have problem because all my other Dark Knight figures won't match, none of them are silicone. Same issue with catwoman (even though she looks great)... I think I got the ocd guys.

Regardless of all the tech it's the portrait likeness that can kill a figure and change people's perception on what is or is not an acceptable amount to spend. Unfortunately, for JND theirs just isn't that good and this is magnified because Hot Toys and Inart have just released theirs and at a much lower price point (in my opinion they all miss the mark but at a lower price its easier to take). Now at JND pricing you are naturally going to be compared to customs and there is no more fertile ground than custom ledger jokers! Even customs from five years ago look more accurate in the portrait department than this figure and it's not a patch on what the top artists are knocking out today.

The paint also suffers because they have gone for some weird mash up of interrogation style make up but not corresponding hair and the outfit also does not align with this look. It's an artists impression of ledger joker and that is not going to cut it in this space. Ledger joker fabs are accuracy nuts (me included) and were spending crazy money on accurate print socks years ago - they need the accuracy.

The clothing was supposed to be the better than customs, the best jacket ever. So far the tailoring does not look good enough to match the hype that they created.

There is space for JND in this market but if you go for the ledger joker crown at this price point you have to be the best. You have to be the most accurate yet, you need the best jacket, the sculpt is got to make people think twice about customs, the rooting needs to be accurate color wise but also to Heath's hairline and the make up needs to be on point and align with a scene that matches the rest of the look of the figure. Without these it does not matter how great the advancement is in materials that you have used, you have failed at the fundamental challenge.

This is why they are being torn down. They have the hubris to market this as the rolex of ledger joker figures to such an extent that customers believed that JND would upgrade the figure in production to equal that expectation. Unfortunately, they delivered a figure that is close to a prototype that already missed the mark.

 

[BrooklynWolf X]

The technology used for the figure is really cool and interesting - however, I want my big 12 inch toys to be really realistic action figures that I can pose without fear of them falling apart or degrading. For that reason I dislike phicen or any rubber or silicone used on figures. That's just a personal preference.

If I were to buy this figure (and even with above preface, I did consider it) then I would have problem because all my other Dark Knight figures won't match, none of them are silicone. Same issue with catwoman (even though she looks great)... I think I got the ocd guys.

Regardless of all the tech it's the portrait likeness that can kill a figure and change people's perception on what is or is not an acceptable amount to spend. Unfortunately, for JND theirs just isn't that good and this is magnified because Hot Toys and Inart have just released theirs and at a much lower price point (in my opinion they all miss the mark but at a lower price its easier to take). Now at JND pricing you are naturally going to be compared to customs and there is no more fertile ground than custom ledger jokers! Even customs from five years ago look more accurate in the portrait department than this figure and it's not a patch on what the top artists are knocking out today.

The paint also suffers because they have gone for some weird mash up of interrogation style make up but not corresponding hair and the outfit also does not align with this look. It's an artists impression of ledger joker and that is not going to cut it in this space. Ledger joker fabs are accuracy nuts (me included) and were spending crazy money on accurate print socks years ago - they need the accuracy.

The clothing was supposed to be the better than customs, the best jacket ever. So far the tailoring does not look good enough to match the hype that they created.

There is space for JND in this market but if you go for the ledger joker crown at this price point you have to be the best. You have to be the most accurate yet, you need the best jacket, the sculpt is got to make people think twice about customs, the rooting needs to be accurate color wise but also to Heath's hairline and the make up needs to be on point and align with a scene that matches the rest of the look of the figure. Without these it does not matter how great the advancement is in materials that you have used, you have failed at the fundamental challenge.

This is why they are being torn down. They have the hubris to market this as the rolex of ledger joker figures to such an extent that customers believed that JND would upgrade the figure in production to equal that expectation. Unfortunately, they delivered a figure that is close to a prototype that already missed the mark.

 

[Lokki]

The technology used for the figure is really cool and interesting - however, I want my big 12 inch toys to be really realistic action figures that I can pose without fear of them falling apart or degrading. For that reason I dislike phicen or any rubber or silicone used on figures. That's just a personal preference.

If I were to buy this figure (and even with above preface, I did consider it) then I would have problem because all my other Dark Knight figures won't match, none of them are silicone. Same issue with catwoman (even though she looks great)... I think I got the ocd guys.

Regardless of all the tech it's the portrait likeness that can kill a figure and change people's perception on what is or is not an acceptable amount to spend. Unfortunately, for JND theirs just isn't that good and this is magnified because Hot Toys and Inart have just released theirs and at a much lower price point (in my opinion they all miss the mark but at a lower price its easier to take). Now at JND pricing you are naturally going to be compared to customs and there is no more fertile ground than custom ledger jokers! Even customs from five years ago look more accurate in the portrait department than this figure and it's not a patch on what the top artists are knocking out today.

The paint also suffers because they have gone for some weird mash up of interrogation style make up but not corresponding hair and the outfit also does not align with this look. It's an artists impression of ledger joker and that is not going to cut it in this space. Ledger joker fabs are accuracy nuts (me included) and were spending crazy money on accurate print socks years ago - they need the accuracy.

The clothing was supposed to be the better than customs, the best jacket ever. So far the tailoring does not look good enough to match the hype that they created.

There is space for JND in this market but if you go for the ledger joker crown at this price point you have to be the best. You have to be the most accurate yet, you need the best jacket, the sculpt is got to make people think twice about customs, the rooting needs to be accurate color wise but also to Heath's hairline and the make up needs to be on point and align with a scene that matches the rest of the look of the figure. Without these it does not matter how great the advancement is in materials that you have used, you have failed at the fundamental challenge.

This is why they are being torn down. They have the hubris to market this as the rolex of ledger joker figures to such an extent that customers believed that JND would upgrade the figure in production to equal that expectation. Unfortunately, they delivered a figure that is close to a prototype that already missed the mark.

I believe the Phicen / TBLeague figures are using TPE and not Silicone in the bodies - which is why they breakdown so quickly. I think A LOT of companies are misleading people when they say they are using "medical grade silicone" - when in truth, they're straight up using TPE....