Jurassic World (SPOILERS!)

[Irvy]

They could have at least built an older rex animatronic for a great introduction. Here, have some more weightless cgi things.

 

[Bo Shrek]

Hey how come we have not sent trained Lions into war to help fight our enemies? Sounds ridiculous right??

 

[Master Wayne]

They could have at least built an older rex animatronic for a great introduction. Here, have some more weightless cgi things.

This is precisely why I have no interest in seeing this film. Even the lackluster Jurassic Park III had several superb full scale animatronic dinosaurs.

 

[CallMeTheDoctor]

I think nostalgia is what makes people so antsy about CGI or animatronics. My point? In 10 years either one is going to look like ****. Honestly, CGI sometimes ages way better.


I don't really care though. As long as it looks like a dinosaur and not a fox with rooster legs, I'm good to go.

 

[Khev]

Hey how come we have not sent trained Lions into war to help fight our enemies? Sounds ridiculous right??

Trained animals have been used by the military for decades.

 

[Khev]

I think nostalgia is what makes people so antsy about CGI or animatronics. My point? In 10 years either one is going to look like ****. Honestly, CGI sometimes ages way better.

There were no animatronics used when the T-Rex chased the jeep in JP1, nor when it attacked the gallimimus or fought the raptors at the end. I guess those scenes sucked.

 

[Bo Shrek]

Trained animals have been used by the military for decades.

Dogs and Dolphins....

 

[Irvy]

This is precisely why I have no interest in seeing this film. Even the lackluster Jurassic Park III had several superb full scale animatronic dinosaurs.

I was just watching the Winston studio vids las night about the Spino , that thing was even bigger than the rex build. Shame it had to appear in a crappy film.

 

[a-dev]

Yeah the problem with the whole idea is that for the particular purposes the Raptors would be used - 'kill the enemy' - well, they'd all die and likely fail at the objective. The best weapon against guns is a greater number of more powerful guns.

 

[jye4ever]

Some people get so caught up in animatronic vs cgi that they forget about the movie itself.

The ending of JW is so awesome who cares if it's an animatronic or cgi, just enjoy the heroic moment.

Step back and enjoy the bigger picture.

If the flow of the movie is working, who cares how it was made.

 

[Biojex]

Yeah the problem with the whole idea is that for the particular purposes the Raptors would be used - 'kill the enemy' - well, they'd all die and likely fail at the objective. The best weapon against guns is a greater number of more powerful guns.

And robots. .

 

[Khev]

Yeah the problem with the whole idea is that for the particular purposes the Raptors would be used - 'kill the enemy' - well, they'd all die and likely fail at the objective. The best weapon against guns is a greater number of more powerful guns.

Who says the dinosaurs wouldn't have guns?

But apparently InGen was thinking beyond Raptors anyway. The full size Indominous was supposed to be a smoke screen for their desire to create weapons of war that could camouflage, hide their thermal readings, and track enemies' heat signatures at "1/3 the size."

Wu pretended to be surprised at what Indominous was capable of but he specifically designed it that way. Part of his "deal" with Hoskins that he mentioned as he got in the helicopter at the end. Good old fashioned Weyland-Yutani stuff.

 

[jye4ever]

Yeah the problem with the whole idea is that for the particular purposes the Raptors would be used - 'kill the enemy' - well, they'd all die and likely fail at the objective. The best weapon against guns is a greater number of more powerful guns.

So you're saying if we send a billion trained spiders against ISIS it wouldn't work.

 

[jye4ever]

Who says the dinosaurs wouldn't have guns?

Can't wait for Jurassic Universe.

 

[Khev]

No more unrealistic monster movies Hollywood. I want that **** grounded in reality yo. Next time Godzilla steps out of the ocean I want his bones to shatter and collapse under to the weight of the muscles that would be required to move him.

 

[DEADDACK_33]

Off for my second viewing of Jurassic World! In IMAX 3D this time!

 

[greygoose]

This is precisely why I have no interest in seeing this film. Even the lackluster Jurassic Park III had several superb full scale animatronic dinosaurs.

So you won't watch a movie that doesn't use animatronics? I guess that means you haven't watched many movies over the past few years then? JW is miles better than JPIII and the CGI is great in most parts to the point where people have thought the I-Rex was an animatronic when is was all CGI.

 

[Master Wayne]

So you won't watch a movie that doesn't use animatronics? I guess that means you haven't watched many movies over the past few years then? JW is miles better than JPIII and the CGI is great in most parts to the point where people have thought the I-Rex was an animatronic when is was all CGI.

I can tell the difference between the two. With ease. For my money, practical effects just look better than digital 9 times out of 10. Look at the legendary practical effects used in John Carpenter's The Thing from 1982 compared to the hideous CG-laden "effects" of The Thing remake from just 2011. One aspect of the problem is that the motion picture studios are conscious and envious of the big money that video games are making these days. They are increasingly pushing for visual effects in their films to more closely resemble video game animation, in an effort to draw in the younger gamer crowds. Why do you think all the remaining great makeup men are struggling or retiring?

I don't hate CGI. I think it has a place and a practical application that can be very effective when used appropriately. My problem with CGI is it has become the go-to tool of lazy filmmaking. The artistry and majesty of creating effects and creatures practically is time consuming, so most modern filmmakers can't be bothered with it and instead outsource the job to pixel pushers months after the cameras have rolled to fix it for them. I'm sorry, but this doesn't impress me.

I watch plenty of films, and judge them based upon their own merits. Pacific Rim was an excellent example of a film that blended practical and digital effects as needed. The cockpits, sets, and smaller creatures were all real, while all the massive stuff was digital. Mad Max: Fury Road, while primarily awesome practical stunts, utilizes some digital to enhance what the cameras had first captured. Practical is real, it has weight and heft and it informs actor performances and catches the cinematographer's lights and shadows, right there on the set. It should always be considered before turning to cartoons. Guillermo del Toro once said that CGI should be the punctuation, not the sentence. I agree with his sentiments exactly.

Jurassic World took the lazy route. No effort was made to blend practical with the digital, unlike it's predecessors, and given that the story also sounded mediocre, I concluded that it's not worth my time or money.

 

[jye4ever]

You are missing a fun movie with a great ending over being hung up on how it was made.

 

[greygoose]

I would have liked to have seen an animatronic T-Rex used but no scene of her in the movie required it to be as it was fast paced fight scenes. The I-Rex and raptors would have been the only dinos that could have gone the animatronic route however I was impressed with the I-Rex CGI, especially during the close up scenes, which in the past would have used an animatronic. The raptors would have benefitted from more practical use, during the day scenes anyway.
The Apatosaurus scene was well done using the animatronic, it felt like a living (well dying) animal.