jye4ever
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I actually agree with you! But I did edit my post to clarify what I meant, so you probably missed that. I don't think Affleck Batman is an urban legend and I agree with you, I think the Cyborg saying "hurr durr, I didn't think you were real" is lame. You're right about that. Cyborg is basically an idiot. I'm sure there are a lot of those in Gotham.
I'm just saying, as long as Batman doesn't start getting chummy with the cops and Gotham, I don't care how some people perceive him. That's all. A statue in his honor and martyrdom is Superman-tier, not Batman's style. Same goes with that ****ing Botanical garden gala in Batman and Robin where the two of them are standing around like celebrities or something. You know what I mean? I wasn't really fixating on the urban legend thing, just talking about the public perception of Batman.
BvS Batman is fine, though I have my doubts with JK Simmons Gordon. It's gonna be some silly ****. The more movies you have of Batman, the sillier he seems to get. He starts out as this creature of the night (Batman 1989, Batman Begins, Batman v Superman), but then he regresses and starts getting goofy.
The only time that works, for me, is the 60s show where Batman and Robin are badge wearing deputies of the law.
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I never want to see that **** again.
And my boy Keaton Batman is the best Batman as far as public perception goes. I think. He keeps to himself, he barely talks, he doesn't let people take pics of him, he stays in the shadows, he doesn't work with the GCPD because they're below him. He starts out as an urban legend, a vigilante that is hated. Public servants and the police try to cover him up and the gangland thinks Batman is some mob enforcer. It's good stuff. Then he gains the city's trust by preventing the Joker chemical attacks and he's like "hey, if you bitches ever need me for important terrorist ****, shine that light in the sky and I'll be there". Then when they do, he shows up, takes care of business, and leaves. No mingling.
I love that scene in Batman Returns where Gordon is trying to shake his hand while thanking him and Batman just disses and ignores him before exiting the scene. Gordon is like "looks like the gang is back in town, thanks for saving the day" or something, and Batman just mutters "we'll see" without even looking or acknowledging him or the mayor. Drafts for Returns actually had a cynical Batman that basically hated the city and the police because of how incompetent they are.
A GCPD/Batman relationship shouldn't be a thing really, because Batman works outside the law and is a criminal (like BvS covers). So unless Gordon wants to be caught for aiding and abetting, he should stay out of ****. The Gordon/Batman relationship in the Nolan movies was good until TDKR. Then **** got weird. It should only be Batman alone, or Batman operating with Gordon in secret. Like I said, it's a progressive thing where Batman starts out as a bad ass but slowly becomes this goofy superhero thing that the public worships. I don't really like Batman being a friend of the cops or people. It makes him look way too vulnerable.
And lets face it, the Snyderverse Batman will eventually go this route too. He's already part of a global super friends team where everyone knows who he is. It's going to get dumb, as the Cyborg exchange and the rumored Gordon roftop scene reports show. It's hard to take Batman seriously on film when he starts being a dude who dresses up in a costume fighting crime to the people in the story. It's inevitable though.
Great to wake up in the morning after returning from a beach vacation and reading this stuff with my coffee.
I haven't seen the extended cut, so I haven't seen those scenes, but even without the EC, I thought Batman should be a well known crime fighter after 20 years. I think they even mentioned him in the Bruce Wayne airline commercial 
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