Kojima Remaking MGS 1 in Fox Engine!?

[krec9]

I'm obviously a different gamer than you guys. I love Castlevania LOS and the MGS1-4. lol. Anyway..

I enjoy 1 ,3 and 4 really hate 2 imo

 

[Solidus]

I'm obviously a different gamer than you guys. I love Castlevania LOS and the MGS1-4. lol. Anyway..

You sound very much like a casual gamer. The problem lies when casual fans show up and tell the more hardcore fans that they're being too serious or that they need to "lighten up", and the hardcore fans try to explain their position in vain to those who could care less about the finer details. It's the equivalent of mixing oil and water. These discussions never get anywhere.

Anyway, it's fine if you're looking forward to a MGS 1 remake. Many others are, too

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

A MGS thread with a bunch of complaining and bashing? Sounds about right for SSF.

 

[Science Friction]

I'm not a casual gamer, I'm very invested in my franchises and games. Perhaps I am just more casual than you guys. lol. I can see that.

Really, you don't like MGS2 Krec? I love MGS2, thought it was a ton of fun.

Thanks hairlesswookie, at least there's one other MGS player besides me who likes LOS, lol.

 

[Snake Plissken]

You sound very much like a casual gamer. The problem lies when casual fans show up and tell the more hardcore fans that they're being too serious or that they need to "lighten up", and the hardcore fans try to explain their position in vain to those who could care less. It's the equivalent of mixing oil and water. These discussions never get anywhere.

Great analogy. You broke it down perfectly. Most people nowadays who are into MGS only recently got into it or they never were truly into it to begin with, and those who have been with the series 10+ years who take it very seriously and look at the series under a microscope. Nothing is wrong with either, but most people write off the people that take the series seriously because they disagree with the current standard of Kojima's creative direction.

 

[Solidus]

I enjoy 1 ,3 and 4 really hate 2 imo

I thought that the storyline for MGS 2 was quite eloquent. I hated how Raiden replaced Snake, though.

 

[krec9]

I'm not a casual gamer, I'm very invested in my franchises and games. Perhaps I am just more casual than you guys. lol. I can see that.

Really, you don't like MGS2 Krec? I love MGS2, thought it was a ton of fun.

Thanks hairlesswookie, at least there's one other MGS player besides me who likes LOS, lol.

Like much people now not playing as Solid really took the fun out of it for me .

 

[krec9]

I thought that the storyline for MGS 2 was quite eloquent. I hated how Raiden replaced Snake, though.

Story was all right i hated Vamp didn't and still don't like Raiden.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

I've been following MGS since MGS.

Have played all the core titles.

Loved all the core titles, except PW which i find dull (gameplay wise)

I'm invested with the story and characters.

Have bought Collectibles, Comics, ect...

What differentiates me from other hardcore fans is I don't have a grudge against Big Boss or Kojima.

 

[Science Friction]

I enjoyed playing as Raiden, I really like the character. I guess that's part of why I love MGS2. You get a two great stories in one imo.

Well obviously it's all black and white. Good to know. You can't just like something these days. There is always someone who knows better, or is more real, or this term, or that term. No offense to any of you, but I just don't think we have the same POV on this at all, and you can't just dumb it down to casual and hardcore. That is not the issue, at least for me. You guys view MGS one way and I view it another. I'm sure we have similar opinions on some things, and obviously differ on many others. I've been playing MGS since the first game, I didn't just jump on a bandwagon and decide I was Solid Snake loving hipster. We are at an impasse gentlemen, simple as that.

 

[krec9]

I enjoyed playing as Raiden, I really like the character. I guess that's part of why I love MGS2. You get a two great stories in one imo.

Well obviously it's all black and white. Good to know. You can't just like something these days. There is always someone who knows better, or is more real, or this term, or that term. No offense to any of you, but I just don't think we have the same POV on this at all, and you can't just dumb it down to casual and hardcore. That is not the issue, at least for me. You guys view MGS one way and I view it another. I'm sure we have similar opinions on some things, and obviously differ on many others. I've been playing MGS since the first game, I didn't just jump on a bandwagon and decide I was Solid Snake loving hipster. We are at an impasse gentlemen, simple as that.

I like big boss to a point who doesn't but come on more story with big boss .

 

[Snake Plissken]

There are Solid Snake hipsters? You're confusing those people who are tired of the stale Big Boss story.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

- MSX 1 - Solid Snake

- MSX 2 - Solid Snake

MGS 1 - Solid Snake

MGS 2 - Solid Snake + Raiden

- MGS TT - Solid Snake

MGS 3 - Naked Snake

- MGS PO1 - Naked Snake

- MGS PO2 - Naked Snake

MGS 4 - Solid Snake

- MGS PW - Naked Snake

- MGR R - Raiden

MGS 5 - Naked Snake


That's 2.5 Solid and 2 for Big Boss.

Solid still has the most games, so what's with the BB hate?

_________

If we include other ALL MGS games... Solid stands at 5.5, Naked at 5 and Raiden at 2 Games.

 

[Project_A]

You sound very much like a casual gamer. The problem lies when casual fans show up and tell the more hardcore fans that they're being too serious or that they need to "lighten up", and the hardcore fans try to explain their position in vain to those who could care less about the finer details. It's the equivalent of mixing oil and water. These discussions never get anywhere.

Anyway, it's fine if you're looking forward to a MGS 1 remake. Many others are, too

Great analogy. You broke it down perfectly. Most people nowadays who are into MGS only recently got into it or they never were truly into it to begin with, and those who have been with the series 10+ years who take it very seriously and look at the series under a microscope. Nothing is wrong with either, but most people write off the people that take the series seriously because they disagree with the current standard of Kojima's creative direction.

Hhmmmm interesting... sounds familiar... maybe with another franchise.


Anyway, I consider myself a casual gamer now. Nowadays games are crap and companies trying to milk your money.

 

[SOLIDSNAKE]

that would be a dream come true.

 

[Project_A]

There are Solid Snake hipsters? You're confusing those people who are tired of the stale Big Boss story.

 

[Snake Plissken]

MGS 1 - Solid Snake

MGS 2 - Solid Snake + Raiden

MGS 3 - Naked Snake

MGS 4 - Solid Snake

MGS 5 - Naked Snake

That's 2 and a half for Solid and 2 for Big Boss.

Solid still has the most games

You're missing a lot there.

MG1
MG2
MGS1
MGS2 (Only playable for 1/4 of it)
MGS4

Solid Snake

MGS3
MPO
MGSPW
MGSGZ
MGSTPP

Big Boss. And Big Boss has been in almost 4 straight games. How can you justify that? And two of Snake's games weren't in the 3d realm of gaming.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

I editted my post to include them.

GZ + PP = MGS 5

 

[Snake Plissken]

You're still not getting the point. 4 straight games of Big Boss.

 

[krec9]

You're still not getting the point. 4 straight games of Big Boss.

its enough.