Legalizing Drugs On The Horizon

[The Chaver]

Yeah, but he is philosophizing from his arse.

 

[The Ween]

Caffeine is a potentially harmful drug with about as much "medicinal" utility as speed (which I hear can cure migraines in a flash, and help for cram study sessions). Alcohol and tobacco aren't by any means harmless, but are drugs that we can legally use and abuse. The fact that some fairly non-medicinal, "recreational" drugs are allowed, whereas some aren't, suggests to me that the rules are pretty arbitrary.

Actually, a little caffeine is actually good for you.

 

[Shatterer of Dreams]

what i find funny is the poeple that think if you legalize pot then all of the sudden the entire country is stoned and useless. I hate to break it to these peoe but pot is plentiful now and there are more potheads out there than you realize (not everyone wears a 420 shirt and talks like he stared in half baked) and yet the coutry is still operating (well sort of but those were not potheads the f'ed the economy up.)

Geko talked about Pablo Escobar being shut down once they started killing everyone....did it work? are the no more drugs coming from Columbia? Even with a literal war on drugs it would still never end ultimately the profits are just too much. Someone will always need an escape and there will always be someone there to profit off of it.

 

[devlinboy]

don't smoke weed. we will get you.

 

[Matt S]

It won't happen. American believes in the (ever growing) illusion of safety. Whether it be physical, emotional - keeping kids safe. One of the reasons the porn, drug and prostitution sectors are so damn popular in this country.

 

[Bannister]

what i find funny is the poeple that think if you legalize pot then all of the sudden the entire country is stoned and useless. I hate to break it to these peoe but pot is plentiful now and there are more potheads out there than you realize (not everyone wears a 420 shirt and talks like he stared in half baked) and yet the coutry is still operating (well sort of but those were not potheads the f'ed the economy up.)

Geko talked about Pablo Escobar being shut down once they started killing everyone....did it work? are the no more drugs coming from Columbia? Even with a literal war on drugs it would still never end ultimately the profits are just too much. Someone will always need an escape and there will always be someone there to profit off of it.

Are you sure?

 

[Badvermin]

You are never going to be able to get rid of drugs and prostitution, so make them legal so that the government can regulate it. Leaving in the hands of the black market only feeds crime.

I'm willing to bet every person in this forum could get some drugs if they wanted. The people who want to use drugs, will get them. Those who don't want to, aren't going to run out and get some just because it's legalized. Humans have always wanted to alter their consciousness since the beginning of recorded history, legality isn't going to stop that.


From what I can see we basically have three long term choices to pick from:

1. Keep going down the current path... but lets be honest, this hasn't been working. Today, we are further than ever from the goal of eradicating drugs, and the related crimes continue to be a major problem.

2. Stamp out drugs completely. Make people know that they can not do any mild altering drugs. Make it illegal to have, sell, or possess any quantity and have incredibly harsh penalties. Dealing drugs will be punishable by death. Possession a life term with no option of parole. Put security cameras everywhere, build walls around the country, allow police forces to search any public or private location without warrants. Countries that disagree with this policy and make drugs will become the enemy, and be dealt with quick and brutal force. All. Out. War.

3. Decriminalization and legalization of drugs. We stop the war on drugs because it's the option which results in the least harm to the citizenry.

Read this:
Celebrating 100 years of failure and futility

 

[Darkseed]

You are never going to be able to get rid of drugs and prostitution, so make them legal so that the government can regulate it. Leaving in the hands of the black market only feeds crime.

I'm willing to bet every person in this forum could get some drugs if they wanted. The people who want to use drugs, will get them. Those who don't want to, aren't going to run out and get some just because it's legalized. Humans have always wanted to alter their consciousness since the beginning of recorded history, legality isn't going to stop that.


From what I can see we basically have three long term choices to pick from:

1. Keep going down the current path... but lets be honest, this hasn't been working. Today, we are further than ever from the goal of eradicating drugs, and the related crimes continue to be a major problem.

2. Stamp out drugs completely. Make people know that they can not do any mild altering drugs. Make it illegal to have, sell, or possess any quantity and have incredibly harsh penalties. Dealing drugs will be punishable by death. Possession a life term with no option of parole. Put security cameras everywhere, build walls around the country, allow police forces to search any public or private location without warrants. Countries that disagree with this policy and make drugs will become the enemy, and be dealt with quick and brutal force. All. Out. War.

3. Decriminalization and legalization of drugs. We stop the war on drugs because it's the option which results in the least harm to the citizenry.

Read this:
Celebrating 100 years of failure and futility

Wow...those are the options

I side with option 1 or 2. Screw potheads and screw life sentence. Punish users and dealers the way Frank (Castle) would do it...death penalty..

 

[Bannister]

Wow...those are the options

I side with option 1 or 2. Screw potheads and screw life sentence. Punish users and dealers the way Frank (Castle) would do it...death penalty..

You sure want to kill a lot of teenagers.

 

[Darkseed]

You sure want to kill a lot of teenagers.

They are worthless anyway

 

[Reefer Shark]

Wow...those are the options

I side with option 1 or 2. Screw potheads and screw life sentence. Punish users and dealers the way Frank (Castle) would do it...death penalty..

Seriously?

Oh no, reefer madness is upon us! Nuke the sex crazed murderous potheads!!!

Man, some of you guys must lead a pretty sheltered life

 

[Darkseed]

Seriously?

Oh no, reefer madness is upon us! Nuke the sex crazed murderous potheads!!!

Man, some of you guys must lead a pretty sheltered life

Nuke.....nah the remaining potheads will set around and snort the ashes, no thanks

Nothing wrong with sex crazed assuming you can pay for the consequences should something happen so I don't. I am all for it, enjoy.

 

[Reefer Shark]

 

[Anzik]

There would be no revenue from marijuana sales because anyone who wanted it would just grow it.

 

[carbo-fation]

I hope this will never happen. Our society is already messed up and legalizing drugs certainly won't make it any better.

 

[Anzik]

I hope this will never happen. Our society is already messed up and legalizing drugs certainly won't make it any better.

Exactly. We should be more concerned with persuading people to avoid all drugs not seeing which other ones can join the club.

 

[karamazov80]

Actually, a little caffeine is actually good for you.

Gives me heart palpitations

A bit of alcohol, though, supposedly promotes longer life-spans.

 

[sladesuperagent]

There would be no revenue from marijuana sales because anyone who wanted it would just grow it.

Apparently you've never tried to grow anything. It takes a little bit of skill. If everyone had the room and talent to grow things, there wouldn't be a produce section at Food Lion.

And no revenue? Put down the pipe. We make a ton of revenue from other vices--gambling, alcohol, porn.

END MARIJUANA PROHIBITION!

 

[Anzik]

Its not cost effective for most people to grow their own produce, especially when the produce section at the supermarket is the most inexpensive of all the departments. To produce enough marijuana for personal use (unless one really likes to indulge) doesn't take much skill or space and I know plenty of guys that have proven that. I have first hand knowledge of it. I had friends who didn't get above a C average that had impressive greenhouses in their basements. It doesn't take an agricultural savant to grow dandelions or pot.
We make revenue off of casinos, lottery tickets, and race tracks because people go to them for the potentially huge pay off instead of the local poker game. People go to the liquor store because, if it were legal, distilling your own is a major project in relation to the price at the store.
All of these other vices require a lot more investment than soil, seeds, water and a grow light.
The larger issue is that many people don't do it because its illegal. Once you make it legal, more people will be inclined to try it. Making anything that impairs judgment more accessible is never a good idea.

 

[pixletwin]

...Once you make it legal, more people will be inclined to try it. Making anything that impairs judgment more accessible is never a good idea.

I agree with that.

I dont smoke. Never have. Never will. But from my observation Alcohol does far more damage to society than marajuana. But does that mean we should legalize it? I dunno. My gut says "no".

*though I do believe its medicinal qualities should be exploited to the fullest*