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I was wrong on some points though. Some Godzilla movies have great human characters in them.

Yup, the whole franchise has high and low points of human story and even Godzilla action. You know it's bad when the moments involving the title character have issues :lol

What excitements for the new movie is that the monster pay off seems to be unanimously well received, everything from the style of fighting to the quality of CGI, I can't wait.
 
Well maybe when the movies comes out you'll see for yourself. They said it falls flat they didnt say it was outright terrible or boring they just werent engaging enough as in they were forgettable like the PR characters save for some like Cranston and wantnabe. I'm not expecting perfect characters nor was I to begin with but that doesnt mean it will be bad either. So why dont you see this friday and then ask yourself the same question.

Some of the reviews Ive read say kickass is the only one who isnt that interesting and they wish the lead woman had more to do. Its not like its upright horrid and I wasnt expecting JR or jaws type characters either.

I'm sure the movie will be fine, I don't think any of us will hate it or anything.

It just kind of bothers me how the writer and the director have this "teasing" mind set that they will make you wait and wait for the monster reveal, that they will tease you until you cannot longer wait any more to show you the monster fight,
But they do that by having some average mediocre human story with some characters that you won't really care about. That's the thing I don't like, how they act like the humans will matter just as much as the actors will but in reality they won't because of how uninteresting they are.

seems kind of arrogant. Same thing with his other movie Monsters. sounds a little bit full of himself. I guess I'll have to wait.
 
Ok I got to say this... Can we all stop comparing JAWS with anything... It's the greatest movie ever and nothing compares ;) Seriously though... While I like the characters in Jurassic Park they are not even close to the characters in JAWS... I could watch a movie about Brody, Quint, and Hooper and have no Shark in it and I would still enjoy it. Those are some Great fleshed out characters. Jurassic Park... Not so much. They were good enough that I cared that they did not get eaten by Dino's but that was about it.

Just remember JAWS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything.

But there is nothing wrong with striving to stand toe to toe with a perfect film such as Jaws. No matter how unlikely that may be :lecture :lol
 
I'm sure the movie will be fine, I don't think any of us will hate it or anything.

It just kind of bothers me how the writer and the director have this "teasing" mind set that they will make you wait and wait for the monster reveal, that they will tease you until you cannot longer wait any more to show you the monster fight,
But they do that by having some average mediocre human story with some characters that you won't really care about. That's the thing I don't like, how they act like the humans will matter just as much as the actors will but in reality they won't because of how uninteresting they are.

seems kind of arrogant. Same thing with his other movie Monsters. sounds a little bit full of himself. I guess I'll have to wait.

The teasing mindset is a good thing to me. back in the day you had to wait for the monster nowadays the monster will show up in the first 5 minutes. Thats pretty damn clever of them. Now Im not sure how the humans will be and i hope and pray i wont get bored but judging from the reviews the pay off is worth it and thats what I cant wait to see. Plus people praise cranstons acting so thats good to.
 
I'm sure the movie will be fine, I don't think any of us will hate it or anything.

It just kind of bothers me how the writer and the director have this "teasing" mind set that they will make you wait and wait for the monster reveal, that they will tease you until you cannot longer wait any more to show you the monster fight,
But they do that by having some average mediocre human story with some characters that you won't really care about. That's the thing I don't like, how they act like the humans will matter just as much as the actors will but in reality they won't because of how uninteresting they are.


seems kind of arrogant. Same thing with his other movie Monsters. sounds a little bit full of himself. I guess I'll have to wait.

I think you touched on something here. Why do all these movies need to have the build up of revealing the monster? Or how superhero films will build up to slowly show you the main villain? It may have started with Jaws or Aliens or something but it's become more and more common as well in the last decade or so. And, alot of times, it kind of fails now. Expectations beat up on the final product. If you don't nail that reveal, then it goes downhill quickly. Godzilla '98 comes to mind. Superhero-wise, think Venom in SM3.

As far as the characters go, they don't have to all be Vito Corleone's. Jaws had good characters that you did care about (though I think Brodie is the only one I'd take away as being an all-time great character imo but it's more than what most of these style of films usually have). That roundtable discussion about their scars and the drunken singing is just as memorable to me now as the shark attacks. This movie may get that from Cranston (I'm hoping Watanabe to because I like that guy in every role and he seems like a perfect fit for a Godzilla remake). But, it's different. With something as big and powerful as Godzilla, it's hard to have the three main heroes really have a major impact on the final showdown. Though, Serizawa did it in the first film.

Maybe it isn't important, but maybe it is. The Sci-Fi films that are considered to have great casts (Jaws, Jurassic Park, Alien, Predator) deal with creatures that are more personal and intimate to each one person. Alien and Predator were, generally speaking, a little bigger than a person. It's easier for the audience to treat them as a character. Jaws and Jurassic Park dealt with bigger creatures that were still picking off humans one at a time in hunt scenes (though the raptors being more human-sized were arguably the true threat of the film because they were easier to...humanize). So it still has that personal agenda feeling (hell, the Jaws series in particular clamps down on this becuase those sharks seem to have it out for this family and it's even discussed multiple times in part 4). I think that's something worth mentioning. In today's cinematic world, audiences can't see enormous creatures as true characters. And maybe it's because it's so hard for human characters and those giant creatures to truly come across as interactive. Iron Giant as a cartoon was able to, but I don't know if it's relevant to this.

Godzilla is impersonal (mostly). Sure, rarely he comes across a Shindo or something, but Godzilla kills people ruthlessly but without much effort. No hunting, no strategizing, no nothing. He's unstoppable and if you are in he proximity of a few square miles you are most likely toast.

It's got to be more challenging for a human character to have a more personal impact. Arnold got up close and personal with Predator. They can't do that here. Naomi Watts got such acclaim because of how she danced around the giant CGI gorilla in King Kong. I didn't think she did anything to spectacular, but being so dynamic with a character so large has to be very difficult for an actor/actress. So because she was relatively successful at doing so, she got recognized.
 
I'm sure the movie will be fine, I don't think any of us will hate it or anything.

It just kind of bothers me how the writer and the director have this "teasing" mind set that they will make you wait and wait for the monster reveal, that they will tease you until you cannot longer wait any more to show you the monster fight,
But they do that by having some average mediocre human story with some characters that you won't really care about. That's the thing I don't like, how they act like the humans will matter just as much as the actors will but in reality they won't because of how uninteresting they are.

seems kind of arrogant. Same thing with his other movie Monsters. sounds a little bit full of himself. I guess I'll have to wait.

It's not arrogance, it's just not the type of movie you apparently want to see. Edwards got the job because of his work on Monsters, because he wasn't Michael Bay throwing non-stop spectacle at you with no substance.

I'm not saying anything against you if you prefer that, but it's not a flaw of the director for not doing it. When I watched Monsters, I got even more excited that Edwards was directing, I thought his characters were interesting and the movie barely had the monsters themselves in it and yet it was still interesting for me. Critics may not be all thrilled with the humans in Godzilla but I have a feeling I'll enjoy the human journey as much as I did in Monsters and will still be glad Edwards directed.

The teasing mindset is a good thing to me. back in the day you had to wait for the monster nowadays the monster will show up in the first 5 minutes. Thats pretty damn clever of them. Now Im not sure how the humans will be and i hope and pray i wont get bored but judging from the reviews the pay off is worth it and thats what I cant wait to see. Plus people praise cranstons acting so thats good to.

It's one of the ballsiest moves I've seen in Hollywood in a long time, a studio and director had the stones to disregard the immediate graitification society we're turning into and created a film that delivers an all around more satisfying experience.

Think of anything in life, if you anticipate something for a long time and then finally get it, assuming it's everything you expected, it's far more enjoyable than if you just got it outright. All the critics seems to agree, you're made to wait with this film, but what you wait for feels every bit worth the wait and probably more satisfying because you waited.

It's like waiting for this movie seeing trailers and clips etc, each new little bit makes you want to see it more, and they just carried this over into the movie itself.

Well played Legendary.

It's got to be more challenging for a human character to have a more personal impact. Arnold got up close and personal with Predator. They can't do that here.

Actually, Aaron Taylor Johnson and Godzilla have a moment together, and it's one part of ATJ's performance I've heard good things about. It's basically Godzilla and ATJ against the mutos and there's a culmination moment of that.

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It's not arrogance, it's just not the type of movie you apparently want to see. Edwards got the job because of his work on Monsters, because he wasn't Michael Bay throwing non-stop spectacle at you with no substance.

I'm not saying anything against you if you prefer that, but it's not a flaw of the director for not doing it. When I watched Monsters, I got even more excited that Edwards was directing, I thought his characters were interesting and the movie barely had the monsters themselves in it and yet it was still interesting for me. Critics may not be all thrilled with the humans in Godzilla but I have a feeling I'll enjoy the human journey as much as I did in Monsters and will still be glad Edwards directed.



It's one of the ballsiest moves I've seen in Hollywood in a long time, a studio and director had the stones to disregard the immediate graitification society we're turning into and created a film that delivers an all around more satisfying experience.

Think of anything in life, if you anticipate something for a long time and then finally get it, assuming it's everything you expected, it's far more enjoyable than if you just got it outright. All the critics seems to agree, you're made to wait with this film, but what you wait for feels every bit worth the wait and probably more satisfying because you waited.

It's like waiting for this movie seeing trailers and clips etc, each new little bit makes you want to see it more, and they just carried this over into the movie itself.

Well played Legendary.



Actually, Aaron Taylor Johnson and Godzilla have a moment together, and it's one part of ATJ's performance I've heard good things about. It's basically Godzilla and ATJ against the mutos and there's a culmination moment of that.

I think even with the marketing machine in full blast right now that we will still be pleasantly surprised with what we haven't seen so far.

Thank the maker SONY didn't make this. :lol

The 50th TV spot would've had the ending scene. :lol

MF, see if your wife is up to delivering at the movie theater, it never hurts to ask. :lol
 
Fixed in bold. :)

I do expect the characters in this to at least be as interesting as Jurassic Park. If not then we could be in for a long hour and a half until Godzilla shows up.

Thank you...
Reviews I read are not that terrific, the fear of the long drawn out spaces of dull or not engaging "human drama" are in abundance....I predict this movie will flop at the box office- good(not great) opening weekend and massive ASM2-like drop off second weekend.
Hope I'll like it better than many reviews.
 
MF, see if your wife is up to delivering at the movie theater, it never hurts to ask. :lol

She's been terrified of the theater ever since the Dark Knight Rises shooting, we tried to see Iron Man 3 last summer and about half way through this lady was acting really sketchy, even I thought something was off with her, and the wife panicked so I just got her out of there and we haven't tried to see a movie sense, pregnancy has her even more freaked out, she knows it's not good to be so scared but it's just how she feels and being pregnant, she can't try any medication or anything to calm it down.
 
I'm also a mess in the theater after Aurora / Boston.

My wife is the one that keeps me calm.
Everytime I go someone has to sit next to me with a big school back pack. :gah:

The managers don't give a crap, they let people walk in with gym bags, school back packs, paper bags!

I know its a free country, but i'm ok with losing my freedom to go into a movie theater without a huge freaking gym bag or back pack.

I even choose seats next to the exists now. :(
 
It's not a comparison to the actual characters, I'd agree, I like all 3 main characters from JAWS more than anyone from Jurassic, but JP also had likable characters that you cared about surviving and what happened to them. Malcom in Lost World and Grant in JP3 were highlights that probably saved those movies from being less than they are.

It's just like Predator 1 compared to AVP, the soldiers in Predator have a huge following and people really care about what happened to them and enjoyed following along their story.

That's all I expect and hope for in Godzilla. I don't expect any of the humans to be considered one of the greatest characters in cinema, but these days, movies like AVP and half the horror genre are just full of people you couldn't care less about and in a lot of cases, end up waiting for them to get killed off or go away.

Even if Aaron Taylor Johnson doesn't turn in a great acting performance, if he's good enough that you care about what happens to him, same for the other main cast members, then they did something better than a lot of other films today.

But there is nothing wrong with striving to stand toe to toe with a perfect film such as Jaws. No matter how unlikely that may be :lecture :lol

That is all I am hoping for... I don't need Brody, Quint, and Hooper... That was lightning in a bottle... But just characters that I can root for and enjoy. If that happens I have no doubt I will love this film.
 
I'm also a mess in the theater after Aurora / Boston.

My wife is the one that keeps me calm.
Everytime I go someone has to sit next to me with a big school back pack. :gah:

The managers don't give a crap, they let people walk in with gym bags, school back packs, paper bags!

I know its a free country, but i'm ok with losing my freedom to go into a movie theater without a huge freaking gym bag or back pack.

I even choose seats next to the exists now. :(

That's like what happened to use, it was middle of summer, hot day, and this woman's wearing a trench coat around, then she's up at the very back row doing stretches. I should have just gone and found a manager but my wife was so freaked I just worried about getting her out and feeling safe again.

I realize we shouldn't let the few psychos make us live in fear, but society should also be conscious of their actions, I don't care if that lady was just craming in her seat and uncomfortable, if you're at a move, you sit still in your seat or you quickly go to and from the bathroom etc, you don't party around no matter what row you're in, it causes people concern with everything that's happened.
 
I'm also a mess in the theater after Aurora / Boston.

My wife is the one that keeps me calm.
Everytime I go someone has to sit next to me with a big school back pack. :gah:

The managers don't give a crap, they let people walk in with gym bags, school back packs, paper bags!

I know its a free country, but i'm ok with losing my freedom to go into a movie theater without a huge freaking gym bag or back pack.

I even choose seats next to the exists now. :(

I feel your pain! I find myself watching the crowd more then the flick! :(
 
The teasing mindset is a good thing to me. back in the day you had to wait for the monster nowadays the monster will show up in the first 5 minutes. Thats pretty damn clever of them. Now Im not sure how the humans will be and i hope and pray i wont get bored but judging from the reviews the pay off is worth it and thats what I cant wait to see. Plus people praise cranstons acting so thats good to.

It's not arrogance, it's just not the type of movie you apparently want to see. Edwards got the job because of his work on Monsters, because he wasn't Michael Bay throwing non-stop spectacle at you with no substance.

I'm not saying anything against you if you prefer that, but it's not a flaw of the director for not doing it. When I watched Monsters, I got even more excited that Edwards was directing, I thought his characters were interesting and the movie barely had the monsters themselves in it and yet it was still interesting for me. Critics may not be all thrilled with the humans in Godzilla but I have a feeling I'll enjoy the human journey as much as I did in Monsters and will still be glad Edwards directed.



It's one of the ballsiest moves I've seen in Hollywood in a long time, a studio and director had the stones to disregard the immediate graitification society we're turning into and created a film that delivers an all around more satisfying experience.

Think of anything in life, if you anticipate something for a long time and then finally get it, assuming it's everything you expected, it's far more enjoyable than if you just got it outright. All the critics seems to agree, you're made to wait with this film, but what you wait for feels every bit worth the wait and probably more satisfying because you waited.

the irony being that monsters were out of the camera before for budget reasons :lol

most of the time when monsters were out of sight it was done because of the restrictions they had. even Jaws was a product of things not working properly.

and it worked, it build tension and suspense but they had to work around the problems with what they had.

Here it feels like it was done on purpose to hype the movie up. so that the director could say that he was going back to the roots, to those classics. But those classics were the way they are out of necessity.

Having CGI now movies don't have those problems,which is why i felt it was a little arrogant. It is okay if he wants to build suspense but still.....
 
the irony being that monsters were out of the camera before for budget reasons :lol

most of the time when monsters were out of sight it was done because of the restrictions they had. even Jaws was a product of things not working properly.

and it worked, it build tension and suspense but they had to work around the problems with what they had.

Here it feels like it was done on purpose to hype the movie up. so that the director could say that he was going back to the roots, to those classics. But those classics were the way they are out of necessity.

Having CGI now movies don't have those problems,which is why i felt it was a little arrogant. It is okay if he wants to build suspense but still.....

CGI isn't the end all for creatures in movies, it still takes time and money to add, so basically, you either inflate your film with CGI and dial back on the quality of everything else or you get a good cast and use the CGI when necessary.

Yes, JAWS did a lot becaue of issues with the shark, but many people and even Spielberg will say the movie is better because of it and had the shark worked everytime they wanted it to, you'd have gotten a lesser movie (Deep Blue Sea :lol).

You think they wanted to limit Hulk's screen time as much as it was in Avengers or any of the Hulk movies? No, but being an all CGI character, there's only so much they can do on top of the rest of the CGI work they need to do.

Same with Godzilla, when CGI is used, it's going to be so heavy that I'm sure budget only allows you to do so much.

Building up the reveal and suspense isn't a marketing gimmick for the film, Edwards is just a director who takes a liking to the Spielberg type approach to films and it's refreshing to see someone is capable of doing such movies.

You'll still have Michael Bay and such around for those films, but those who appreciate good storytelling and patiently waiting for a big finish to a film, people like Edwards will be around. Everyone wins.
 
That's like what happened to use, it was middle of summer, hot day, and this woman's wearing a trench coat around, then she's up at the very back row doing stretches. I should have just gone and found a manager but my wife was so freaked I just worried about getting her out and feeling safe again.

I realize we shouldn't let the few psychos make us live in fear, but society should also be conscious of their actions, I don't care if that lady was just craming in her seat and uncomfortable, if you're at a move, you sit still in your seat or you quickly go to and from the bathroom etc, you don't party around no matter what row you're in, it causes people concern with everything that's happened.

I feel your pain! I find myself watching the crowd more then the flick! :(

About 6 months after Aurora a middle eastern looking lady left a huge purse hanging off the seat and left the theater.

At first I was like, no biggie must've went to the bathroom but crazy for leaving purse unattended, whatever.

But 30 minutes later, movie started, still not back.

I was freaking out, couldn't concentrate on movie, driving my wife crazy.

I **** you not, 5 minutes after the 30 minutes she walked back in to watch the movie!

WTF!!!!!

the irony being that monsters were out of the camera before for budget reasons :lol

most of the time when monsters were out of sight it was done because of the restrictions they had. even Jaws was a product of things not working properly.

and it worked, it build tension and suspense but they had to work around the problems with what they had.

Here it feels like it was done on purpose to hype the movie up. so that the director could say that he was going back to the roots, to those classics. But those classics were the way they are out of necessity.

Having CGI now movies don't have those problems,which is why i felt it was a little arrogant. It is okay if he wants to build suspense but still.....

Some of the greatest discoveries or achievements in history were found by accident. :lecture

Gareth Edwards is doing some reverse engineering here, hopefully it works. :lol
 
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