1/6 Luke Skywalker: Red Five X-Wing Pilot Sixth Scale Figure

[Asta]

The box...

...is using this prototype photo:

 

[Rorywan]

Every photo is out of focus - at least if you look at the full size versions on FB. Shot through glass, flat lighting. I wouldn't post them if I'd shot them.

EDIT: Ok, there are one or two photos that aren't in perfect focus, but are good enough that I won't say they're as OOF as the others.

Again, not saying this figure is a home run by any stretch, but that the photos make it look worse than it is, possibly much worse. I also don't find $240 for a figure in a suit a good value, but that's not relevant and Sideshow is free to ask whatever they want for their products just like consumers decide whether they want to buy.

the shots are not "through glass" he has the figure, he posted pics of the box, the packaging, they are not in store snaps.
Every photo is not "out of focus". Sharp, evenly lit photographs are the absolute best way to judge what a object looks like without situational lighting effects. Nothing wrong at all with those photos. Are they creative? No, but they are professional in quality.

Keep taking those blue tablets.

 

[Wor-Gar]

"Overpriced...? Sideshow should be charging $3,750..."

 

[Jaymas]

I also don't find $240 for a figure in a suit a good value, but that's not relevant and Sideshow is free to ask whatever they want for their products just like consumers decide whether they want to buy.

The price is relevant for the reason stated in the second part of your sentence. SS is free to ask whatever they want, but if the bulk of customers don't buy it because they don't value it for the asking price than SS may have to reconsider. Right now there is a lot of talk from a lot of us saying we don't think it's worth the price, but the proof in the pudding depends on if people actually refrain from buying it at that price. In the past I would say that there always seems to be a market for crappy figures, and perhaps that may still hold true; but, with HT putting out so many Star Wars characters right now, including two of Luke, this figure may actually be the odd man out for a lot of collectors until the price comes down. We will see.

But my point is, the sentiment being communicated here that the price is too high for what you get is relevant as long as it really translates into actually refraining from buying the figure at that price.

 

[Jaymas]

So what is the history with SS eyes? I read a couple comments that said that SS doesn't do separate eyes anymore; when did they ever? I have ANH Luke Han and Leia from SS along with SS Indy and none of those seem to have sculpted eyes. After that I haven't bought any SS figures and started buying HT, what figures did they do differently and why did the decide to stop?

 

[Rorywan]

"Overpriced...? Sideshow should be charging $3,750..."

(.... ah.. it's fun to be in you merican's timezone for a while...)

 

[TaliBane]

This is a bit of a game-changer for me. If Sideshow hasn't figured this out by now, they never will. They've had so many shots at this - but clearly there isn't the will to improve. It just isn't a priority. Even as prices go from $140 to $240 in just a few years.

This one is a step back from the Hoth figures, almost back to Drake. You simply can't compete in the current 1/6 marketplace with this - and at $240 no less. "Lesser" companies like DID consistently deliver far superior product. With this figure it has crossed over into delusional and insulting - as if they think people are stupid enough to accept this for that amount of money.

I guess HT will do the Luke Snowspeeder soon enough and I'll get that. What sad outcome for a company that had so much on the table.

 

[Wor-Gar]

This would be my cost in CA... $274.67 total

Tax: $18
Shipping: $16.68 -- ships 17 miles





Remember this picture of the proto -- TWO heads -- over a year ago?






Maybe the 2nd head that they dropped was the one that looked like the proto?

 

[Invictus Sol]

Well said, Tali. I remember after the initial sticker shock of this being announced, a lot of us had theories that the cost was related to SSC investing somehow to step up their production quality to HT levels. It was the only thing that might go some way to justifying the price, but wow, what a total and abject failure. If they find more than 100 suckers to sell this POS to at full retail, I'll be surprised.

Edit: And the box using the hand painted prototype is shameless.

 

[careyb]

SS Artoo is a great looking figure. I liked him so much I had to get two!

Right ... Sideshow did a great job on R2D2 In all fairness the Hoth Han and Luke are pretty good , especially Luke on his Tauntaun. Sculpts are good ... It's the paint apps that are less than stellar .


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[careyb]

" You can kill a good sculpt with crappy paint apps"


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[dms54nyc]

Have we talked about the jumpsuit? im not seeing alot of room for futz on that jumpsuit. Its tighter on his arm pits and groin then the proto. You may get it to look better but it will not look like that proto. Check out the collar too, looks like garbage.

 

[Rorywan]

This is a bit of a game-changer for me. If Sideshow hasn't figured this out by now, they never will. They've had so many shots at this - but clearly there isn't the will to improve. It just isn't a priority. Even as prices go from $140 to $240 in just a few years.

This one is a step back from the Hoth figures, almost back to Drake. You simply can't compete in the current 1/6 marketplace with this - and at $240 no less. "Lesser" companies like DID consistently deliver far superior product. With this figure it has crossed over into delusional and insulting - as if they think people are stupid enough to accept this for that amount of money.

I guess HT will do the Luke Snowspeeder soon enough and I'll get that. What sad outcome for a company that had so much on the table.

Great honest post.

I would add this: the one area they have put much more effort into is proto images. Hiring Lala to do paint ups that in no way resemble what could be delivered in production, surely must be viewed as shady at the very least.

Selling fakery..


"Gypsies, tramps and NRD's"

 

[Racetrack]

Wow. Someone do a comparison with the Stormtrooper Luke and the X-Wing Luke heads. 2 figures from 2 companies released within 2 weeks of each other.

 

[Pixelpiper]

The price is relevant for the reason stated in the second part of your sentence.

The sentence came after talk of photos and appearance. The price and value to any particular collector isn't relevant to whether it's a hit or miss in appearance. It's obviously relevant to sales.

 

[TaliBane]

Well said, Tali. I remember after the initial sticker shock of this being announced, a lot of us had theories that the cost was related to SSC investing somehow to step up their production quality to HT levels. It was the only thing that might go some way to justifying the price, but wow, what a total and abject failure. If they find more than 100 suckers to sell this POS to at full retail, I'll be surprised.

Edit: And the box using the hand painted prototype is shameless.

Yeah, that price in my mind was for "new technologies!"... or something. I honestly thought the Hoth figs were a "transition" from the bad old days (Snake/Drake) and this would be the first truly HT-quality head from Sideshow, and I was really excited (for them as well as for me) to see it. A myriad of other small companies had been doing it for years, but for some bizarre, unexplainable reason, it eluded Sideshow over and over.

Well, they aren't getting this sucker. And as for the Temple of Doom Indy... I just cut the rope bridge.

I was one of those who PO'ed this figure without a NRD. I wonder how Sideshow will respond to those cancelling this due to poor quality in terms of refunding the NRD?

Maybe they'll tell people they can carefully cut around the box picture and display that in their detolf.

 

[TonTon]

Edit: And the box using the hand painted prototype is shameless.

Every figure does this though. All HT Star Wars are the exact same thing. Nobody's Han looks like that one on the box.

 

[Rorywan]

Every figure does this though. All HT Star Wars are the exact same thing. Nobody's Han looks like that one on the box.

There is a river to cross and then there is the grand canyon.
Both are land gaps.

 

[Invictus Sol]

Yeah, that price in my mind was for "new technologies!"... or something. I honestly thought the Hoth figs were a "transition" from the bad old days (Snake/Drake) and this would be the first truly HT-quality head from Sideshow...

Yep, this was my impression, as well. I remember speculating that maybe HT was sharing their factory and techniques with Sideshow to help them close the gap.

And as for the Temple of Doom Indy... I just cut the rope bridge.

Every figure does this though. All HT Star Wars are the exact same thing. Nobody's Han looks like that one on the box.

Not sure if you're referring to the Han V1 prototype being pictured on the box when what was delivered was the revised sculpt but it's irrelevant either way. Point is no-one looks at an HT box and thinks they're getting one thing and then opens it to profound disappointment. In general, the production is extremely close to the prototype. In Luke's case, they may as well have switched out the $240 figure people thought they were buying with Hasbro. It's a dramatic difference in quality, so don't get smart, Ton!

There is a river to cross and then there is the grand canyon.
Both are land gaps.

Yep.

 

[davejames]

Was it really too difficult to make a mold of the bangs like we see in the proto, that doesn't have those cartoonish waves at the bottom?