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Which from what I hear (or having a friend doing) is not only against eBay's policy, but against the law isn't it?

A lot of things are, but that doesn't stop people. I imagine a lot of people on ebay have friends or use alternate ID's to bid on their own auction to drive up the price. I've been outbid before by suspicious IDs only to have the same item appear again a week later to start all over again.

Again, I'm not suggesting that Shawn did this with Lurtz. It's also possible someone with plans to auction their own "Lurtz" is driving up the price to create a history of high sales...or someone who bought Shawn's first Lurtz trying to make others pay more than he did just so he can feel better. Who knows?

All I'm saying is, I'm always suspicious of 0 feedback IDs when they drive a price way up. I don't buy the 'privacy' point that was presented earlier. Something else is going on here. Plus, Craw has now been contacted because that 0 feedback buyer has apparently dropped out. Whenever I see a bizarre ID with 0 feedback as the high bidder, especially when I believe the price is high, I hold off bidding.
 
All I'm saying is, I'm always suspicious of 0 feedback IDs when they drive a price way up. I don't buy the 'privacy' point that was presented earlier. Something else is going on here. Plus, Craw has now been contacted because that 0 feedback buyer has apparently dropped out. Whenever I see a bizarre ID with 0 feedback as the high bidder, especially when I believe the price is high, I hold off bidding.

Whether you buy it or not, it's the truth. Ebay now obscures the IDs of people bidding on high-ticket items. I'm not sure of the reasoning behind it, but that part has absolutely nothing to do with any kind of shenanigans. You are of course right to be suspicious of 0-feedback bidders, though.
 
Whether you buy it or not, it's the truth. Ebay now obscures the IDs of people bidding on high-ticket items. I'm not sure of the reasoning behind it, but that part has absolutely nothing to do with any kind of shenanigans. You are of course right to be suspicious of 0-feedback bidders, though.

Yeah, I just don't trust them. I've seen too many items come back for auction or been contacted by the seller that the person dropped out.

It is weird that ebay obscures the ID for high-ticket items. I still can't get my head around the advantage/protection. But I don't mean to sound like I think anyone is wrong here. I'm sure you're right. I just don't like it.
 
looks like i might get this after all. the 0 feedback bidder must have backed out of the deal. i got a second chance from the seller. currently working out the deal.:D

If you are smart, you will not buy this through the second chance. Make the seller re-list the item. If he is on the up-and-up. He won't mind. And he would have submitted a non-paying bidder report. Ask if he did that and why not if he didn't. I am not saying that this is a scam. But there are a few similarities between this auction and common eBay scam where the seller or a friend runs up the bid and them sells it on the second chance. eBay even has warnings out about the scam.
 
make sure that all bids from the bidder that has backed out are out of the equation... not just the final one.
 
Just wanted to jump in here, as it was my auction. No, there's no conspiracy to drive up a price in any of my auctions. Actually, nearly all of my stuff is listed with a Buy It Now option that matches the reserve. You sell something to earn money for it. Why play games with the system just to drive up the price to manipulate the market or "set a stage" for future high sales? I know people do it, but I don't understand it. It's stupid. You just create that "scam" atmosphere you're all talking about and make things harder for everyone. Not to mention, you're not being paid for anything because you're too busy playing games. You risk not selling your item at all doing that. I don't have time for that crap and even less interest in it. Second chance offers are offered, and permitted, by eBay. This option has not always been available. It actually started because of dead-beat bidders, like this 0-feedback guy that just nailed me. I don't see how starting over with a fresh listing would prove or validate my honesty. Why do that, when eBay has intentionally set up a sytem to extend the offer to the next bidder? Why do another 5-day auction when you have another bidder right there who wanted the figure? I have to tell you, if you think buyers are the only ones that get screwed on eBay, you're dead WRONG. There are a ton of ways to scam people on there and there are just as many aimed at sellers. Someone (a member of this board) recently put forth the idea that a lot of dead-beat bidders are other customizers trying to throw a wrench into your auctions to somehow benefit themselves in some way. I don't really see how that works or what the goal is. Wouldn't surprise me, though and sad if it's true. I'm not what you think of when you hear the word "customizer". Most of them are guys trying to get as much money as possible as easily as possible to afford more stuff for their own collection. I don't even collect, not even my own figures. I get more enjoyment out of seeing someone else own it than I would watching it collect dust on some shelf in my studio. I'm a professional free-lance artist and sculptor. It's what I do, and I take a lot of pride in the stuff I make. A large part of that pride comes from seeing other people appreciate my work, especially when they were willing to spend their hard-earned money on it. After all my years doing this, that's the one extremely humbling compliment I'll never get over; someone was willing to pay money for something I made with my own hands. I don't play any of the games, it's a waste of time to even bother learning how to play them. I'd rather spend my time making stuff. I make cool stuff, and I sell it for the money that puts a roof over my kids' heads and the personal satisfaction that keeps me going. Simple as that.
Cheers,
Shawn
 
I hope no offense was taken on your part, Shawn. As I stated above a few times, I wasn't suggesting that your auction was a scam. I've known you too long to think that. This conversation seems to have veered off into a discussion of ebay scams based only on the fact that your Lurtz had one of these 0 feedback dead-beats. Many of us have experienced this many items on evilbay, thus the topic.

Why? As you say, who knows. Some interesting theories have been provided, but it's probably something much less conspiratorial in some cases.

In any event, we have gotten sidetracked from the topic at hand. Hopeful Shawn can chime in here as to the possibility of a Lurtz group commission.
 
does ebay allow the one who is auctioning the option to cancel bids? perhaps, if this was implemented, suspicious interference can be done away with? also... is there a choice of whether to obscure bidder's i.d.s?
 
does ebay allow the one who is auctioning the option to cancel bids? perhaps, if this was implemented, suspicious interference can be done away with? also... is there a choice of whether to obscure bidder's i.d.s?

You could never get away with giving the seller that kind of authority, it'd be to easy for them to cancel out legitimate bids if they recognize the bidder and just don't want them winning.
 
is this bizarro world? maybe we need to decide the worst of the two evils... eliminating deadbeat bidders or choosing who one doesn't want to win an auction (which to me sounds crazy... dude! who has this problem?).
 
You could never get away with giving the seller that kind of authority, it'd be to easy for them to cancel out legitimate bids if they recognize the bidder and just don't want them winning.

Actually, ebay sellers do have the authority to cancel bids, and you can even blackball certain bidders that you don't want bidding on your stuff.
 
Many sellers won't allow 0-feedback bidders to bid. But everyone has to start somewhere, right?

And Shawn pointed out a good way to appear on the up and up - have a buy it now the same as the reserve - then everyone knows where you willing to sell and these questions aren't raised.
 
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