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Re: The Man of Steel
Will Superman Get Unleashed?
Source:/Film February 20, 2009
/Film snuck into Legendary Pictures' password protected company site, which lists Superman Unleashed as one of the company's upcoming films in development. Legendary Pictures was one of the companies responsible for bringing director Bryan Singer and Warner Bros. Pictures' Superman Returns to theaters in 2006.
The site says the listing includes the following synopsis:
"Ramping up the action of its esteemed predecessor, the sequel to 'Superman Returns' promises to raise the stakes and take the audience to heights of action that no other superhero movie can achieve."
So will Brandon Routh return as Clark Kent/Superman? Only time will tell...
Will Superman Get Unleashed?
Source:/Film February 20, 2009
/Film snuck into Legendary Pictures' password protected company site, which lists Superman Unleashed as one of the company's upcoming films in development. Legendary Pictures was one of the companies responsible for bringing director Bryan Singer and Warner Bros. Pictures' Superman Returns to theaters in 2006.
The site says the listing includes the following synopsis:
"Ramping up the action of its esteemed predecessor, the sequel to 'Superman Returns' promises to raise the stakes and take the audience to heights of action that no other superhero movie can achieve."
So will Brandon Routh return as Clark Kent/Superman? Only time will tell...
tylerdurden
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i actually liked brandon routh as superman. hope they keep the poor guy.
i'll pass on bryan singer tho.
i actually liked brandon routh as superman. hope they keep the poor guy.
i'll pass on bryan singer tho.
Re: The Man of Steel
Whoever makes a new one i bet they don't use that stupid ^^^^ing maroon and go back to RED.
Whoever makes a new one i bet they don't use that stupid ^^^^ing maroon and go back to RED.
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Say what you will about SUPERMAN RETURNS...
It certainly had ALOT of great things going for it. The best way to approach any possible sequel/follow-up reboot, is to take what worked, and change what didn't. I can certainly appreciate SR for what it is, and I really enjoyed it when it was first released, but rewatching it again made me realize why so many tend to dislike it. Singer sought to make an introspective, personal story about the Man of Steel, that asked some interesting what-if questions, and he succeeded; But in alot of ways, it really dug itself into a few corners, and didn't leave alot in the way of a new series. I like to look at it as an alternate conclusion to the first two Superman films.
But rewatching those two films (as well as the Donner cut of II, and reading Donner's "Last Son" arc) made me really long for another great Superman film. Poor Supes always seems to get a bad rap compared to his black clad, pointy-eared rival, but I feel that an uplifting, action-packed original Superman story using today's technology would really be something.
Here is what I would keep from SR:
Brandon Routh. Say what you will about the guy, there's no denying he looks the part. Looking a few years older, bulking up even more and more acting experience will make him even more perfect for the part. Let the guy grow in the role, and he could be just as good as Reeve.
Kevin Spacey as Luthor. What's not to love? Sure people complain that he just rehashed the Gene Hackman land swindler bit, but that was the writers' fault not him. Other than that, he was simultaneously charismatic and sinister: a definitive Lex.
The costumes/set design: IMO, Superman Returns just had such a great timelessness, combining modern technology with the fashions of the 30's and 40's, will certainly help it stand up well in the years to come in those respects, kind of like Burton's Batman (and unlike the 1978 film, where the contemporary fashions and Metropolitan sets SCREAM seventies. Fortunately, it still holds up great despite that.)
John Williams themes. Maybe not hit them over the head like before, but at least use an original score that usefully references them. Williams is one of the great masters in the the field if not the greatest. You could compose a new theme like they did with Batman, but it would only draw comparisons, and there's no beating Williams in his prime.
What they need to change:
TONE! TONE! TONE! Give the movie a relatively uplifting tone, with the right amount of action and violence. No more drab cinematography filled with depressing colors.
Villains. Keep Luthor in the background and reinvent him as a full-time business man, but throw in some monster or alien Supes can go toe to toe with.
Lois. RECAST. Nothing wrong with the character, just Bosworth and the way she was written. Just ignore the Richard subplot and the kid, and we should be fine.
I personally don't really care if they redid the origin, as it was already done so perfectly in the 1978 film. We've already seen it in the movies, the cartoons, the serials, and the TV shows, do we really need to drag it out again?
If audiences have to see it, do it like the 2008 INCREDIBLE HULK, and keep it to the opening titles.
A great new Superman movie is simply begging to be made. Forget about a straight sequel and a "Superman Begins" reboot, just make a bad ass Superman film that takes what worked from RETURNS and do something otherwise new.
It certainly had ALOT of great things going for it. The best way to approach any possible sequel/follow-up reboot, is to take what worked, and change what didn't. I can certainly appreciate SR for what it is, and I really enjoyed it when it was first released, but rewatching it again made me realize why so many tend to dislike it. Singer sought to make an introspective, personal story about the Man of Steel, that asked some interesting what-if questions, and he succeeded; But in alot of ways, it really dug itself into a few corners, and didn't leave alot in the way of a new series. I like to look at it as an alternate conclusion to the first two Superman films.
But rewatching those two films (as well as the Donner cut of II, and reading Donner's "Last Son" arc) made me really long for another great Superman film. Poor Supes always seems to get a bad rap compared to his black clad, pointy-eared rival, but I feel that an uplifting, action-packed original Superman story using today's technology would really be something.
Here is what I would keep from SR:
Brandon Routh. Say what you will about the guy, there's no denying he looks the part. Looking a few years older, bulking up even more and more acting experience will make him even more perfect for the part. Let the guy grow in the role, and he could be just as good as Reeve.
Kevin Spacey as Luthor. What's not to love? Sure people complain that he just rehashed the Gene Hackman land swindler bit, but that was the writers' fault not him. Other than that, he was simultaneously charismatic and sinister: a definitive Lex.
The costumes/set design: IMO, Superman Returns just had such a great timelessness, combining modern technology with the fashions of the 30's and 40's, will certainly help it stand up well in the years to come in those respects, kind of like Burton's Batman (and unlike the 1978 film, where the contemporary fashions and Metropolitan sets SCREAM seventies. Fortunately, it still holds up great despite that.)
John Williams themes. Maybe not hit them over the head like before, but at least use an original score that usefully references them. Williams is one of the great masters in the the field if not the greatest. You could compose a new theme like they did with Batman, but it would only draw comparisons, and there's no beating Williams in his prime.
What they need to change:
TONE! TONE! TONE! Give the movie a relatively uplifting tone, with the right amount of action and violence. No more drab cinematography filled with depressing colors.
Villains. Keep Luthor in the background and reinvent him as a full-time business man, but throw in some monster or alien Supes can go toe to toe with.
Lois. RECAST. Nothing wrong with the character, just Bosworth and the way she was written. Just ignore the Richard subplot and the kid, and we should be fine.
I personally don't really care if they redid the origin, as it was already done so perfectly in the 1978 film. We've already seen it in the movies, the cartoons, the serials, and the TV shows, do we really need to drag it out again?
If audiences have to see it, do it like the 2008 INCREDIBLE HULK, and keep it to the opening titles.
A great new Superman movie is simply begging to be made. Forget about a straight sequel and a "Superman Begins" reboot, just make a bad ass Superman film that takes what worked from RETURNS and do something otherwise new.
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Superman should wear black leather, and punch women and children for kicks. Now THATS a movie.
Superman should wear black leather, and punch women and children for kicks. Now THATS a movie.
Mr. Fusion
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That sounds horrible. But kicking women and children for punch, I could let that go.
That sounds horrible. But kicking women and children for punch, I could let that go.
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ActionFigureLegend
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^^^^ing hate all this ^^^^! Need a new Superman movie!
NOW!
^^^^ing hate all this ^^^^! Need a new Superman movie!
NOW!
Ven
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I blame richard donnor for ruining superman for this generation.. he made his soo awesome that got SR's expectations wayy too high..
I blame richard donnor for ruining superman for this generation.. he made his soo awesome that got SR's expectations wayy too high..
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There's a strong argument to be made there.
Further, if his films weren't so ingrained in Singer's consciousness, his mind would have been free to give Superman the page-one film-realization treatment that he gave to X-Men.
There's a strong argument to be made there.
Further, if his films weren't so ingrained in Singer's consciousness, his mind would have been free to give Superman the page-one film-realization treatment that he gave to X-Men.
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Not a big surprise but the next movie has been shelved.
https://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/09/...for-superman-says-dc-entertainment-president/
Not a big surprise but the next movie has been shelved.
https://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/09/...for-superman-says-dc-entertainment-president/
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Too bad. Another Singer Superman, no matter how it turned out, would be preferable to no Superman.
I mean, we are smack dab in the middle of the golden age of super hero movies, and there are no plans to make another film on the super hero? The greatest, most iconic hero upon which all others were based? Stupid
Too bad. Another Singer Superman, no matter how it turned out, would be preferable to no Superman.
I mean, we are smack dab in the middle of the golden age of super hero movies, and there are no plans to make another film on the super hero? The greatest, most iconic hero upon which all others were based? Stupid
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This isn't good. If another Superman film isn't at minimum in preproduction by 2011 then the estates of Siegel and Shuster will have the right to sue to recover damages. This means that the 2013 turning point will fuel the fire for the estates to move Superman from DC to go elsewhere. If that happens the character will be nil recognizable since the "S" shield, half of the character's powers and even some of the supporting characters will stay owned by DC.
This isn't good. If another Superman film isn't at minimum in preproduction by 2011 then the estates of Siegel and Shuster will have the right to sue to recover damages. This means that the 2013 turning point will fuel the fire for the estates to move Superman from DC to go elsewhere. If that happens the character will be nil recognizable since the "S" shield, half of the character's powers and even some of the supporting characters will stay owned by DC.
ProgMatinee
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Still think a blend of the Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow film techniques and Superman would be an awesome tribute to early Superman and an awesome movie. Just imagine Superman fighting flying robots or something in that 40s noir film style with the cool lighting and shading techniques from those days.
Go to the 8min mark and imagine this in live action.
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Still think a blend of the Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow film techniques and Superman would be an awesome tribute to early Superman and an awesome movie. Just imagine Superman fighting flying robots or something in that 40s noir film style with the cool lighting and shading techniques from those days.
Go to the 8min mark and imagine this in live action.
<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="https://www.youtube.com/v/luDRa7jBL74&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="https://www.youtube.com/v/luDRa7jBL74&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
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I'm glad theres not going to be a new Superman, It would probably suck anyway. Singer ruined it with the last film, so lets try again. Its crazy that these films keep going and keep being recycled. So happy there wont be a new superman.
I'm glad theres not going to be a new Superman, It would probably suck anyway. Singer ruined it with the last film, so lets try again. Its crazy that these films keep going and keep being recycled. So happy there wont be a new superman.
Re: The Man of Steel
Idiots!! (get it done)
Superman > Batman
Oh well, at least the first two Superman films were epic. And we'll always have those. Still, i would love to see more.
Idiots!! (get it done)
Superman > Batman
Oh well, at least the first two Superman films were epic. And we'll always have those. Still, i would love to see more.
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WB/DC have GOT to work out some sort of licensing arrangement with the Siegel/Shuster camp. It's insane that their flagship property would be ripped apart like this. Just pay them off for Rao's sake!
And I'm extremely disappointed in this news. I'd think that the first priority for her in her new job would be to get something rolling with Superman.
WB/DC have GOT to work out some sort of licensing arrangement with the Siegel/Shuster camp. It's insane that their flagship property would be ripped apart like this. Just pay them off for Rao's sake!
And I'm extremely disappointed in this news. I'd think that the first priority for her in her new job would be to get something rolling with Superman.
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