Man of Steel (SPOILERS)

[Niltusk]

Re: The Man of Steel

The logos looked awesome in 3D. Then there was some shaky cam on Krypton that made me seasick.

It was to make the Krypton Naval battle more real.

 

[CelticPredator]

Re: The Man of Steel

Superman Returns isn't a bad film. It's just a misguided one. Like Hulk.

Totally inappropriate for the genre. Pepper in substance in your hero flicks, not smother it with it.

 

[batfan08]

Re: The Man of Steel

Last time I checked, on Krypton, Jor-El is infamous. He's most well known for fightin' 'round the world.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: The Man of Steel

MoS has a 65% rottentomatoes score compared to 76% for Superman Returns. No way in hell it's worse than Returns. Critics were really smoking something in 2006.

I'm not saying that MoS is guaranteed to be awesome and any naysayers are Nolan/DC bashers but I just can't imagine that its anything but lightyears better than Superman Returns.

Yes, I'd put it above those two movies. But I cannot agree with AICN and call it the greatest superhero movie ever. There are others that surpass it.

 

[CelticPredator]

Re: The Man of Steel

I don't see why anyone has a problem with an action film getting rated less then a dramatic allegory film...

Critics prefer substance to splosions.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: The Man of Steel

I don't see why anyone has a problem with an action film getting rated less then a dramatic allegory film...

Critics prefer substance to splosions.

But the Nolanz is involved. This is Inception, only with more Zod.

 

[JAWS]

Re: The Man of Steel

Superman Returns isn't a bad film. It's just a misguided one. Like Hulk.

Totally inappropriate for the genre. Pepper in substance in your hero flicks, not smother it with it.

It's not bad like "Slave of the Cannibal God" bad but it was a pretty poor film. Basically a remake of the first film but boring. I could have handled it being smothered with substance. Instead it was just smothered.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: The Man of Steel

It's not bad like "Cannibal Campout" bad but it was a pretty poor film. Basically a remake of the first film but boring. I could have handled it being smothered with substance. Instead it was just smothered.

 

[Niltusk]

Re: The Man of Steel

I don't see why anyone has a problem with an action film getting rated less then a dramatic allegory film...

Critics prefer substance to splosions.

I'll take both, please.

 

[CelticPredator]

Re: The Man of Steel

It's not that bad of a movie. It's just a poor superhero tentpole summer film.

Like Hulk was. All the story telling elements are alright. It's just wildly inappropriate for the genre. Like I said.

Kinda like how in TDKR, people started to get frustrated with all the subtexts and ****. It was too much, and lost the point of what it needed to be.

 

[CelticPredator]

Re: The Man of Steel

I'll take both, please.

Sure. But that doesn't happen too often, and especially not for summer movies.

This, from what i'm hearing, is just a big ol action movie. Not so much a story driven tale.

Which is whatever to me. I don't really care. This year has already broken me. I want something ****ing good to come out.

 

[tomandshell]

Re: The Man of Steel

I found that you had to pay attention to what was going on in Nolan's Batman films. The plotting was more intricate than you might have expected from a "comic book movie." (I think that TDK had just the right balance, while TDKR went too far with subplots and characters that could have been trimmed with little to no overall impact.) Man of Steel is not densely plotted and does not have sudden twists, turns or surprises. It is a straightforward Superman story. He comes to Earth, grows up, discovers his powers and heritage, fights the villain and gets the girl. It was visually impressive but didn't quite lift your spirits (with the possible exception of Superman's first flight sequence). There was scattered cheering throughout but no spontaneous high fives afterwards.

 

[CelticPredator]

Re: The Man of Steel

That sounds about right.

 

[tomandshell]

Re: The Man of Steel

I think it will be a great source of signature GIFs.

 

[Sachiel]

Re: The Man of Steel

There was scattered cheering throughout but no spontaneous high fives afterwards.

Do those really happen?

 

[jye4ever]

Re: The Man of Steel

Do those really happen?

My screening of Avengers they did, I **** you not.

 

[Khev]

Re: The Man of Steel

I've never high-fived after a movie but I do occasionally jump in the air and "chest bump" whoever's sitting next to me if I thought the movie was particularly exciting or thought provoking.

 

[JAWS]

Re: The Man of Steel

It's not that bad of a movie. It's just a poor superhero tentpole summer film.

Like Hulk was. All the story telling elements are alright. It's just wildly inappropriate for the genre. Like I said.

Kinda like how in TDKR, people started to get frustrated with all the subtexts and ****. It was too much, and lost the point of what it needed to be.

I actually Enjoyed Hulk the first time I saw it. Yes I was disappointed but I enjoyed the style and being a big Hulk fan I somewhat appreciated the psychological approach to the film. However the film is also Silly at times and Ang Lee should have NEVER EVER been the man to play the Hulk in the motion capture suit. Hulk never felt like Hulk.


I always thought Superman Returns was a mess. Even worse it's a boring mess. It tries to be a squeal and a remake all in one. Superman lands on earth, hangs out in Smallville, Gets a job at Daily Planet, makes his first appearance to the masses by saving Louis from a falling air craft, Saves east coast from exact same plot he saved the west coast from. I know much of the dialogue was supposed to be an homage to the original but since the whole film was basically the original it just felt boring.

The things they tried to make different and new just did not work. Louis moving on from Superman and Superman having a son were bad ideas made worse by miscasting and lack of any kind of chemistry.

Add that to the fact that any sexual relations that Superman had with Louis was erased from her memory, I found myself wondering why she did not press Sexual assault charges for Superman apparently slipping her a roofie.

It was due to the fact that Singer could not decide if he wanted to make a remake or a true sequel that made this such a hot mess. If you are going to follow Donner's films then you should at least try and keep the tone. But the tone ended up all over the place because Singer had no clue what he wanted to do.


I also enjoyed TDKR. It had to follow up TDK.... Basically impossible. I found most of the issues just had to do with staying true to the characters in the comics. But if you can accept this as another universe then it is just fine.

 

[The Josh]

Re: The Man of Steel

My screening of Avengers they did, I **** you not.

Yeah, I've seen it before with a few movies.

 

[Niltusk]

Re: The Man of Steel

I've never high-fived after a movie but I do occasionally jump in the air and "chest bump" whoever's sitting next to me if I thought the movie was particularly exciting or thought provoking.

Remember, do NOT set next to Khev if you're holding the popcorn.