MARVEL' S Falcon and the Winter Soldier

[jye4ever]

i thought he was a great white

ill get my coat lol

Truly a spectacular response lol

 

[a-dev]

i thought he was a great white

ill get my coat lol

brilliant

 

[jye4ever]

JAWS’s favorite movie monster will forever be synonymous with white oppression over minorities good job matticus lol

 

[ironwez20]

Really? I didn't know all that. Must suck to be one of those types that hate these things . I can see this types becoming even more bitter than they already are.

I can?t wait to see she hulk. She was a prominent avenger. I also can?t wait for some others. As a Spider-Man fan I wouldn?t mind if they did miles either. At first I hated him cause he?s not really to original and just black Spider-Man but he grew on me. Besides Peter should be a grown man with a family now. It?s sad his growth stopped in the 90s and he?s forever a early 20s Spider-Man

 

[jye4ever]

The GREAT WHITE at it again!

 

[user 64404]

The series was alright, only thing Im interested now from Marvel is Eternals, What if and No Way Home.

We will probably see US agent again in the future but I think its a missed opportunity to simply paint his suit black.

Put some love in his costume. Would have looked great if they extended the helmet past his nose like this and gave him his own vibranium shield. Oh well.

Walker don't have a vibranium shield in the comics, he use regular metal shield.

 

[user 64404]

This wokening is just the beginning:

Sam Wilson as Cap
Riri Williams as Iron Man
Jane Foster as Thor
She-Hulk as Hulk
Kate Bishop as Hawkeye
Yelena Belova as Black Widow (push)

I remember reading in history books how conservative people used to fight against all progressive innovations like electricity, automobiles and the internet, now they use all of this together to hate diversity comic characters in the upcoming super hero productions.

 

[GreenRanger-Kush]

Walker don't have a vibranium shield in the comics, he use regular metal shield.

Interesting, did not know that. Seems weird to me he still uses a regular metal shield, but someone has to be the downgraded Cap. Curious to see what he is going to get as a weapon in the MCU.

 

[abake]

i thought he was a great white

ill get my coat lol

JAWS’s favorite movie monster will forever be synonymous with white oppression over minorities good job matticus lol

The GREAT WHITE at it again!

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You guys win the internet.

 

[Khev]

I'm glad that more people are seeing "Karli" as being one of the single worst (if not THE worst) villains in the history of supervillains. My gosh she was lame. And since a hero is only as good as his villains Cap Falcon is lame as well. She had a terrible look, was annoyingly written, sounded unintimidating and ridiculous ("prepare for bat-oh", lol), and was pathetically overpowered. She can go toe to toe, with no shield, and WIN against an equally enhanced career soldier like Walker? Give me a BREAK.

And then Sam's mopey speech about this ONE idiot terrorist dying? And how we shouldn't "label" murderous TERRORISTS--all from the hands of a writer that you know considers half the country to be "ists" and "phobes?" No it was not a great speech, it went on forever, was eye-rollingly cringy and with the dozen cutaways I was half expecting to see the *boat's* reaction to Sam's preaching on TV. The Isaiah memorial *could* have been quite poignant in a better show but not in this one.

Bucky was made to be a first class idiot and borderline incompetent, Walker's handling was shameful (but Russell himself at least won me over, even in this episode he was the one character I was actually rooting for.) But yes jye I don't know what was going on with his goofy "I'm back, yay" deal at the end. Did Russell show up on set drunk and they just said "we only have time for one take, let's do this," lol

Sam cries over a loser terrorist, makes a big speech about her, and then pardons an apparent villain (wtf) who now has full access to government and military secrets.

Good job for your first day as Cap.

 

[Khev]

i thought he was a great white

ill get my coat lol

The GREAT WHITE at it again!

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Go Bruce!

lol

 

[matticus]

JAWS’s favorite movie monster will forever be synonymous with white oppression over minorities good job matticus lol

What have I done?!

The GREAT WHITE at it again!

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I remember reading in history books how conservative people used to fight against all progressive innovations like electricity, automobiles and the internet, now they use all of this together to hate diversity comic characters in the upcoming super hero productions.

It isn't progression, it is just substituting what made a unique character unique for a gender/race swap. I wouldn't want to take someone else's moniker, I would like to make a better one or one unique to myself. It is called criticism, not hate. I'll say it is simply a rip-off to make it easier for you.

 

[user 64404]

What have I done?!







It isn't progression, it is just substituting what made a unique character unique for a gender/race swap. I wouldn't want to take someone else's moniker, I would like to make a better one or one unique to myself. It is called criticism, not hate. I'll say it is simply a rip-off to make it easier for you.

Lets first agree that when someone say wokeness or sjw it is hate speech and not criticism. To be criticism you must consume first and have good points to be discuss.

Sam Wilson as Cap is not gender/race swap, he is totally different than rogers, his storyline is all about social problems of society unlike rogers who fight for his own ideals and morals, he fights for what he thinks is right but he is not show to be too progressive as Sam(lets remenber he is 100 years old and was frozen from most of the time so its not his fault).
Riri Williams as Iron Man, she is a genius like Stark(both were born with super brain power but their difference is that Stark was born with money but Riri didnt), she earned her armor by reverse tech Stark tech by her own merit, if she is boring than Iron Man is boring too.
Jane Foster as Thor, she was a better thor than thor himself, her comics was awesome and this helped build a better growth for thor (Odinson) now she is Valkyrie and both her runs are great, i recommend.
She-Hulk as Hulk, we all like hulks.
Kate Bishop as Hawkeye, she is a good character but i dont know how she will fit in the MCU, if she is going to be the Hawkeye for the Avengers than she will be just as good as Clint, lets be honest outside Rogers,Stark and Thor, the others was just side characters in the Infinity Saga.
Yelena Belova as Black Widow, she is actually a useless swap or simply a rip-off.

Thats the thing why Miles is liked, because people after some time gave him a chance, he is different than Peter, have unique storylines and problems just like everyone above with the exception of Belova.
I would bet that you guys would like the whole Jason Aaron's Thor run(Jane Foster as Thor is in the middle) for instance.

 

[jye4ever]

I'm glad that more people are seeing "Karli" as being one of the single worst (if not THE worst) villains in the history of supervillains. My gosh she was lame. And since a hero is only as good as his villains Cap Falcon is lame as well. She had a terrible look, was annoyingly written, sounded unintimidating and ridiculous ("prepare for bat-oh", lol), and was pathetically overpowered. She can go toe to toe, with no shield, and WIN against an equally enhanced career soldier like Walker? Give me a BREAK.

And then Sam's mopey speech about this ONE idiot terrorist dying? And how we shouldn't "label" murderous TERRORISTS--all from the hands of a writer that you know considers half the country to be "ists" and "phobes?" No it was not a great speech, it went on forever, was eye-rollingly cringy and with the dozen cutaways I was half expecting to see the *boat's* reaction to Sam's preaching on TV. The Isaiah memorial *could* have been quite poignant in a better show but not in this one.

Bucky was made to be a first class idiot and borderline incompetent, Walker's handling was shameful (but Russell himself at least won me over, even in this episode he was the one character I was actually rooting for.) But yes jye I don't know what was going on with his goofy "I'm back, yay" deal at the end. Did Russell show up on set drunk and they just said "we only have time for one take, let's do this," lol

Sam cries over a loser terrorist, makes a big speech about her, and then pardons an apparent villain (wtf) who now has full access to government and military secrets.

Good job for your first day as Cap.

Falcon cared about Karli so much that he let her killer not only walk away but get reinstated back into world intelligence with a huge promotion lol

 

[ZE_501]

Traditionally:

Superheroes are powerful beings that make difficult choices to wield their power responsibly, protect non-combatants and weaker beings, follow a moral compass and by doing so set themselves above lesser men and women who might be corrupted by the burden of that power.

Supervillains use their power for selfish gain, to impose their will and beliefs on others via violent force (eschewing democratic ideals), and to dominate those weaker than themselves.

Did I get that right?

Spellman smeared postmodern relativism all over this genre and the characters, to create a muddied hash of poorly executed ideas lacking credibility or consistency. Good job, Marvel.

I understand very well the dynamics of power that inform class struggle. It's not bullying when you're "punching upwards", it's rebellion and democracy in action no matter all the hand wringing. But when you cross the line into murder you're not a freedom fighter anymore, you're a terrorist.

Sam is a soldier, and an Avenger. He knows this. Or he did until he got retconned into an idiot.

Wow, did they ever **** this up.

 

[Khev]

Sam Wilson as Cap is not gender/race swap, he is totally different than rogers, his storyline is all about social problems of society unlike rogers who fight for his own ideals and morals, he fights for what he thinks is right but he is not show to be too progressive as Sam(lets remenber he is 100 years old and was frozen from most of the time so its not his fault).

I'm going to change my name to Kobe Bryant and start wearing a Lakers uniform 24/7. Because, you know, I'm my own person with my own struggles...

 

[Khev]

Falcon cared about Karli so much that he let her killer not only walk away but get reinstated back into world intelligence with a huge promotion lol

And what was with Sam telling Batroc to go eat some croissants and French fries? Not very Cap-like behavior. I wonder how people would have reacted if Batroc named a couple of stereotypical foods for Sam to go eat.

 

[Otomofan]

Lets first agree that when someone say wokeness or sjw it is hate speech and not criticism. To be criticism you must consume first and have good points to be discuss.

Woooof. Whoa.

"Hate speech??"

Good god.

I only use the ignore feature as an absolute last resort, but in this case I think it might save me from a future banning cause I won't be tempted to take the bait if I don't see it.

 

[ZE_501]

Lets first agree that when someone say wokeness or sjw it is hate speech and not criticism. To be criticism you must consume first and have good points to be discuss.[...]

I don't agree that it's 'hate speech' but I do think it's a lazy and vague catch-all term. I think we should be very careful about what we label 'hate speech'. The world is a complicated place and there are many things we may find objectionable, lazy, insulting or otherwise weaponized, but there are some things we should set aside as especially evil and contemptible, and in my opinion lazy rhetoric isn't one of them.

Woooof. Whoa.

"Hate speech??"

Yeah no.

 

[Khev]

I don't agree that it's 'hate speech' but I do think it's a lazy and vague catch-all term. I think we should be very careful about what we label 'hate speech'. The world is a complicated place and there are many things we may find objectionable, lazy, insulting or otherwise weaponized, but there are some things we should set aside as especially evil and contemptible, and in my opinion lazy rhetoric isn't one of them.

You just made a better speech than Sam, lol.