Marvel vs. DC

[The ill Jedi]

I would argue that Batman (when written well) is a far more complex, damaged and interesting character than Spider-man could ever be. Spidey hasn't really ever outgrown his teen angst.

You try losing your mother, father and uncle all at a very young age and see how well you'd deal with it. I love how you guys have convinced yourselves that Batman/Bruce is not 'angst ridden'. Gimme a break.

I'm a teen myself, spiderman is just a pansy...

Whatever you say Buttercup.

 

[Agent0028]

Thought ya'll DC fans might like to know that this thread has convinced me to read a few batman comics (or maybe ya'll don't care either way ). Since I'm just dabbling in comics a little, and I've always liked Batman and you guys praise the stories so much, I figure why not. I'm not reading superman though. He still annoys me.

 

[BDboystoys]

Thought ya'll DC fans might like to know that this thread has convinced me to read a few batman comics (or maybe ya'll don't care either way ). Since I'm just dabbling in comics a little, and I've always liked Batman and you guys praise the stories so much, I figure why not. I'm not reading superman though. He still annoys me.

Wow great to hear, really. I really hope you love them. I definitely urge you read the ones mentioned. My first Batman comic was actually The Long Halloween. I'd read comics here and there, but I consider that to be the comic that kick started my real passion for the industry.
For Batman, I recommend:
Batman: Year One, Dark Knight Returns, The Long Halloween, The Killing Joke, Hush, Arkham Asylum and Batman: Black and White to begin with.
Other DC masterpieces:
Kingdom Come, Watchmen, Sandman, V for Vendetta, New Frontier, We3, Fables, Swamp Thing...

Unfortunately Superman, though he's the most iconic hero ever, the same cant be said for the quality of comics that produced. It's partly because of the way in which he was created, that it doesn't lend much for a writer to explore the character. However I definitely recommend these two:
It's a Bird, Superman for All Seasons. Kingdom Come is also very heavily a Superman story, and brilliant too

 

[Ven]

Wow great to hear, really. I really hope you love them. I definitely urge you read the ones mentioned. My first Batman comic was actually The Long Halloween. I'd read comics here and there, but I consider that to be the comic that kick started my real passion for the industry.
For Batman, I recommend:
Batman: Year One, Dark Knight Returns, The Long Halloween, The Killing Joke, Hush, Arkham Asylum and Batman: Black and White to begin with.
Other DC masterpieces:
Kingdom Come, Watchmen, Sandman, V for Vendetta, New Frontier, We3, Fables, Swamp Thing...

Unfortunately Superman, though he's the most iconic hero ever, the same cant be said for the quality of comics that produced. It's partly because of the way in which he was created, that it doesn't lend much for a writer to explore the character. However I definitely recommend these two:
It's a Bird, Superman for All Seasons.

I double these.

 

[Bonehead15]

I would argue that Batman (when written well) is a far more complex, damaged and interesting character than Spider-man could ever be. Spidey hasn't really ever outgrown his teen angst.

As Shai would say "WORD."

 

[wofford29]

There is not a Marvel book out there that has ever been nor will it ever be better than this....

DC wins by default!

 

[The ill Jedi]

There is not a Marvel book out there that has ever been nor will it ever be better than this....

That's a Frank Miller book, he is an entity all unto himself. No denying that it's awesome though.

 

[wofford29]

Wow great to hear, really. I really hope you love them. I definitely urge you read the ones mentioned. My first Batman comic was actually The Long Halloween. I'd read comics here and there, but I consider that to be the comic that kick started my real passion for the industry.
For Batman, I recommend:
Batman: Year One, Dark Knight Returns, The Long Halloween, The Killing Joke, Hush, Arkham Asylum and Batman: Black and White to begin with.
Other DC masterpieces:
Kingdom Come, Watchmen, Sandman, V for Vendetta, New Frontier, We3, Fables, Swamp Thing...

Unfortunately Superman, though he's the most iconic hero ever, the same cant be said for the quality of comics that produced. It's partly because of the way in which he was created, that it doesn't lend much for a writer to explore the character. However I definitely recommend these two:
It's a Bird, Superman for All Seasons. Kingdom Come is also very heavily a Superman story, and brilliant too

For Batman I'd throw in the a more recent one with "Batman: Year 100". It's the best Batman book I've read in a while.

 

[carbo-fation]

After reading the Civil War arc for the past couple of months, I've become even less of a Marvel fan. What the hell where they thinking with the ending?!?!!

 

[Khev]

I just like Marvel's style. The way most of the heroes balance costumed heroics and "normal" life from the 60's to the 80's just had so much charm. Some of those so called masterpiece stories of DC just seemed to have an odd pretentiousness about them not appropriate to the medium.

I like comic stories where Captain America beats up hundreds of Red Skull clones on a helicarrier far above the earth or Reed Richards must represent himself in a Galactic trial due to a planet being eaten by Galactus. That's what comics are all about to me and why I've always preferred Marvel.

 

[Darklord Dave]

Batman/Bruce is not 'angst ridden'.

I never said Bruce wasn't full of angst - I was just comparing that to Peter's TEEN angst - insecurities about love, self-esteem, etc. Batman's angst is on a whole other level. Sure they both lost loved ones which motivates them to do right. However Peter's got that "with great power comes great responsibility" crutch, whereas Batman has no great power but has chosen to assume the responsibility anyway.

 

[The ill Jedi]

I never said Bruce wasn't full of angst - I was just comparing that to Peter's TEEN angst - insecurities about love, self-esteem, etc. Batman's angst is on a whole other level. Sure they both lost loved ones which motivates them to do right. However Peter's got that "with great power comes great responsibility" crutch, whereas Batman has no great power but has chosen to assume the responsibility anyway.

Well said. So let's just agree that they are both Angst-ful!

:chew Hooray my 1,000th post finally!! :chew

 

[Agent0028]

Thanks for the recommendations BD. Dunno if I'll read the Arkham one or not, from the reviews on Amazon alot of people used things like Disturbing, Gruesome, grotesque, and I'm not a huge fan of gratuitous and/or over the top violence and stuff. The others sound really great though.

Congrats on the 1 grand Ill Jedi!

 

[Fritz]

Upon further review, I choose OTHER.

 

[Bardoon]

Speaking of DC and those that read comics here...why has DC screwed with Superman's origin so much?

While the basic premise remains the same.Other details and appearances of the characters have changed so much that I can't tell which one is the "true" one!

First there was Pre-Crisis,then Byrne's Man of Steel origin,then there were hints that Pre-Crisis might be the true one,then there was Superman:Birthright,and now in Action Comics (with Donner writing with Geoff Johns) they're going along the lines of something more like the Superman movies with a little bit of Smallville sprinkled in.

Come on now DC!Stop the madness!

 

[PosterBoyKelly]

Well the same goes for Marvel, the histories are so jacked for both companies. I mean that's why I stick to mini series. The basics hold in a self contained story. My fav. books by both companies are mini series. I like the basics = Superman from Krypton, Bruce Banner exists and needs to stay calm, Wizard Shazam! never died, Spider-Man was never cloned and has his basic suit. THAN twist in some cool story lines with those basics and make the story ABOUT the person in the suit and you got a good tale. It comes down to writing. DC really jacked its history, but so has Marvel, just not AS bad.