Still haven't seen Wakanda Forever, doubt I'll go see this either. The MCU has become something that I just watch if I have nothing better to do, even though only a couple years ago I'd be at IMAX for midnight screenings.
George, is that you?
He’s more Doom than Kang lol
Wtf man, aren't you excited for the D-List Avengers vs the Saturday Morning Cartoon Villain?! And then the sequel where geriatrics and middle aged wrecks come back to face off against the same guy with a power up?!Still haven't seen Wakanda Forever, doubt I'll go see this either. The MCU has become something that I just watch if I have nothing better to do, even though only a couple years ago I'd be at IMAX for midnight screenings.
This gave me hope but then you went on for 7 more paragraphs.I could go on, but you get the gist.
This gave me hope but then you went on for 7 more paragraphs.
I’ve seen enough. I’ve seen the actor, whom I do not like. I’ve seen the announced slate and I know that he’ll be around for years. I’ve seen the same awful MCU costume. And worst of all they’re just ripping off Doom to prop up Clown Kang. I could forgive a misstep. The spotlight falling on something not to my liking. An interpretation of a character too different from what I’m used to. I grew to like MCU “KuKulKan” despite him being so different from the Namor I knew. I could’ve perhaps done the same with this Kang even if the actor and direction weren’t what I envisioned. We can’t have it all. But stealing stories and status from the actual important and superior character to prop up an inferior one is something I cannot move past. I can’t watch them butcher Doom’s stories, steal his spotlight, and just brush it aside. So Clown Kang, and even the innocent guy playing him, are going to suffer my general internet fury on forums all over. It is simply how it is. My rants will flow throughout the years until Clown Kang is no longer bothering me with his presence. Beware my massive and utterly devoid of meaning blogposts on dolly forums!Clearly you're well versed on Kang's persona in the comics and his adventures therein, but maybe wait and see what they're doing with him in the MCU before passing judgement? The fact that you "seriously cannot understand what they're doing" is perfectly normal - they haven't done it yet.
Well, stealing from Doom to make this character better could be a good thing, provided they're keeping the best Doom arcs for him. I mean there are only so many stories they can realistically tell with these characters on screen and if a majority of the best tales are centered on Doom, well then spreading the wealth may not be so terrible. As you alluded to earlier, all of these movies seem to end up with someone threatening the world's / universe's very existence, so the character's motivations/journey will need to be interesting/engaging or they'll all end up like Black Adam.
Kidding aside, I know, I know, I do get a tad too fired up at times…
I’ve seen enough. I’ve seen the actor, whom I do not like. I’ve seen the announced slate and I know that he’ll be around for years. I’ve seen the same awful MCU costume. And worst of all they’re just ripping off Doom to prop up Clown Kang. I could forgive a misstep. The spotlight falling on something not to my liking. An interpretation of a character too different from what I’m used to. I grew to like MCU “KuKulKan” despite him being so different from the Namor I knew. I could’ve perhaps done the same with this Kang even if the actor and direction weren’t what I envisioned. We can’t have it all. But stealing stories and status from the actual important and superior character to prop up an inferior one is something I cannot move past. I can’t watch them butcher Doom’s stories, steal his spotlight, and just brush it aside. So Clown Kang, and even the innocent guy playing him, are going to suffer my general internet fury on forums all over. It is simply how it is. My rants will flow throughout the years until Clown Kang is no longer bothering me with his presence. Beware my massive and utterly devoid of meaning blogposts on dolly forums!
Well, stealing from Doom to make this character better could be a good thing,
Nobody cares about the 500 times Doom has fought the FF because he was bored out of his skull. The memorable stories are the ones that go big. And Kang's stealing the most famous ones. These are 2-3 hour movies, not ongoings. Every character gets one arc. Stark got three solos and appeared in movies for 11 years and they still didn't do Armour Wars. Doom getting all his big stories stolen from him doesn't mean he has others to fall back on, it means he's reduced to a footnote. Kang could've had his one phase story and been left at that. He was perfectly serviceable as a mid boss. There was literally no need to steal from a superior character to overextend his role.provided they're keeping the best Doom arcs for him. I mean there are only so many stories they can realistically tell with these characters on screen and if a majority of the best tales are centered on Doom, well then spreading the wealth may not be so terrible.
Kang's got no motivation beyond "lmao I'm conquering". He can't get Doom's motivation because he's literally a pale imitation of him. And he shouldn't. And that's besides the fact. The issue is that these movies need escalating problems and scope. Thanos was a Universal threat. Clown Kang is being turned into a Multiversal one. There's nowhere higher to go. There's the Omniverse but that's a useless term. I doubt they'll even acknowledge Brian and the CBC. They'll just let Betsy be Captain Britain and involve her in X-Stuff exclusively. Doom's left in the dust. He's trashed for Clown Kang to be propped up. It's insulting. Both Secret Wars are stolen from him. T'Challa is dead so no DoomWar. Stark's dead so no Camelot Trilogy. Strange will be gone by the time he arrives so no Triumph & Torment, and even then that's a character building sidestory. Infinity Gauntlet/War/Crusade was already adapted and he wasn't featured. There's nothing left bar "ohohoho I'm gonna kill the FF tomorrow" one-offs, his origin, and some slice of life tales. There's nothing worth adapting. What, are they gonna do Unthinkable where he skinned a woman and turned her into armour because Waid is a ******** manchild who cannot stand people liking characters who aren't Boy Scouts? It's all being given to the Space Clown. And even then the whole core of the Incursions will be absent considering there's no Illuminati or Avengers Machine. It'll just be Busiek's Kang Dynasty with shoehorned Incursions to cash in on the memberies while Tobey and the rest are still able to walk.As you alluded to earlier, all of these movies seem to end up with someone threatening the world's / universe's very existence, so the character's motivations/journey will need to be interesting/engaging or they'll all end up like Black Adam.
I found an exclusive set photoThis movie looks like a big glob of cgi mess oozing all over the place lol
I'll take your word for it on their stealing Doom's best stories. Like the majority of the movie going public, I consider his character's crowning achievement to be dating Jessica Alba's Sue Storm in Fantastic Four, so clearly I'm not one to debate this with you. I will say that (while unlikely) it's possible that after three less than stellar appearances in FF movies to date that Feige has determined Doom's had his chance on the big stage and it's time to go with his understudy lol...Nobody cares about the 500 times Doom has fought the FF because he was bored out of his skull. The memorable stories are the ones that go big. And Kang's stealing the most famous ones. These are 2-3 hour movies, not ongoings. Every character gets one arc. Stark got three solos and appeared in movies for 11 years and they still didn't do Armour Wars. Doom getting all his big stories stolen from him doesn't mean he has others to fall back on, it means he's reduced to a footnote. Kang could've had his one phase story and been left at that. He was perfectly serviceable as a mid boss. There was literally no need to steal from a superior character to overextend his role.
Maybe in 2026 I'll be proven wrong and Clown Kang will turn out to be a chump who gets dispatched by Doom and yadda yadda yadda. But I doubt it. The MCU has a habit of butchering stories, but completely robbing Doom blind is heresy. And I can't ignore it. I get your point, but it's not a sidestory being loaned, it's the crowning achievement of someone being stolen.
Fox Dooms were not even Doom, they were Luthor/Osborn with Electro's Powers. If Feige had that thought, then they wouldn't even be making another FF movie. If indeed Feige is enough of a moron to hold such a belief, unlikely as it is, then the MCU deserves to crash and burn before they get to the X-Men. And honestly, I think it's likely. Now they're saying that they'll push back the slate even further to fit in even more stuff before TKD, like the Shang-Chi sequel, the Vision series nobody asked for, and an adaptation of Marvel's newest attempt at Harry Potter starring Wong. Lest we forget Echo and Agatha, because those were really needed shows... We'll get the FF in 2026 and SW in 2027 by that point, and even zoomers who grew up with the MCU will be too tired to care. These are all rumours and everything, but the entire thing is mishandled and needlessly convoluted and milked out. Just do the damn TKD flick, kill off the Clown and move on. We'll know at SDCC I suppose.I'll take your word for it on their stealing Doom's best stories. Like the majority of the movie going public, I consider his character's crowning achievement to be dating Jessica Alba's Sue Storm in Fantastic Four, so clearly I'm not one to debate this with you. I will say that (while unlikely) it's possible that after three less than stellar appearances in FF movies to date that Feige has determined Doom's had his chance on the big stage and it's time to go with his understudy lol...
Hey, maybe they have a completely original story arc planned for Doom that isn't lifted directly from the comics. I think you should cling to that idea. Better to think positively than to be all.........Doom and Gloom!
The MCU has really dropped the ball with the whole “multiverse” thing.What's with all the psychedelia style for Phase 4? Are the creators showing their age?
Quantumania?
Multiverse of Madness?
They all sound like bad rides, man.
It really is a convoluted mess there are like 25 characters who possibly caused it lolThe MCU has really dropped the ball with the whole “multiverse” thing.
And nothing has.It really is a convoluted mess there are like 25 characters who possibly caused it lol
They just threw everything at the wall to see what would stick.
OK, doom and gloom it is.Fox Dooms were not even Doom, they were Luthor/Osborn with Electro's Powers. If Feige had that thought, then they wouldn't even be making another FF movie. If indeed Feige is enough of a moron to hold such a belief, unlikely as it is, then the MCU deserves to crash and burn before they get to the X-Men. And honestly, I think it's likely. Now they're saying that they'll push back the slate even further to fit in even more stuff before TKD, like the Shang-Chi sequel, the Vision series nobody asked for, and an adaptation of Marvel's newest attempt at Harry Potter starring Wong. Lest we forget Echo and Agatha, because those were really needed shows... We'll get the FF in 2026 and SW in 2027 by that point, and even zoomers who grew up with the MCU will be too tired to care. These are all rumours and everything, but the entire thing is mishandled and needlessly convoluted and milked out. Just do the damn TKD flick, kill off the Clown and move on. We'll know at SDCC I suppose.
And I'm sorry. I don't care about "original arcs". We've seen how "great" the MCU is when they try to be "original". I care that Doom's being robbed blind for an inferior character to be propped up. That's all there is to it. Doom will come off as a rip-off and a lesser threat, and all because Clown Kang stole all of his best moments. That's unacceptable. Thanos was mishandled, but they didn't steal any Non-Thanos stories to prop him up. He didn't unleash the Annihilation Wave or something. But with Doom it's open season. KuKulKan already technically stole DoomWar. Kang's stealing both Secret Wars. It's ridiculous.
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