Marvel's The Black Panther

[crows]

Feige did all of that via FILMMAKERS. Some dense people up in here tonight.

Who got hired by him
Woth scripts he looked over and approved
With ideas he chose from the comics


If the filmmakers are the only reason that a franchise succeeds then why is star wars failing and why is Kathleen Kennedy desyroying star wars???

If the filmmakers are the only ones responsible why did amy pascal KILLED amazing spiderman franchise?

Your point is defeated

 

[ironwez20]

I think Fiege or Micky Mouse bullied him one to many times at the gym and stole his girlfriend.

 

[Wor-Gar]

No one else has seen this tonight? Just the one review so far?

EDIT: no, one other review, sorry.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Feige did all of that via FILMMAKERS. Some dense people up in here tonight.

Of course, but those filmmakers are making those films using the studio's notes, the studio Feige controls, while answering directly to Disney's Alan Horne.

Remember, the MCU is formulaic.

 

[SNIKT1950]

No one else has seen this tonight? Just the one review so far?

The Feige disciples didn't bother watching it opening night lol

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Now you're gettin' all Black Panther and sheet.

The effects of seeing BP once.

 

[ironwez20]

The Feige disciples didn't bother watching it opening night lol

But you saw it. A feige movie on opening night. So who is the disciple?

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

The Feige disciples didn't bother watching it opening night lol

No, just the new member. I'll send you the t shirt and member ID card tomorrow.

You will be lobotomized too.

 

[SNIKT1950]

But you saw it. A Coogler movie on opening night. So who is the disciple?

#CooglerDiscipleForever

 

[Wor-Gar]

I need more empirical evidence that its a good movie. They may have put something in SNIKT's popcorn. Or he simply received a contact high after 2 hours in that closed room.

 

[Ropen]

The market speaks for itself,
The fanbase speaks for itself
The word of mouth from the normal audiences speak for itself

Feige has created what no other studio has even been possible to accomplish.

Not even disney has been able to accomplish what Feige did.

No other studio has created this kind of franchise. Not even star wars.

Let.Me.Stop.You.Right.There.

James Bond surpasses everything and adapts to changing times, the mcu might keep up with it but even then it has like 54 years to catch up as a franchise.


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[crows]

You sound stupid right now. Just saying.

Explain the failure in star wars then.

What you are saying is the equivalent of a ship without a captain....
Ir a symphony without a conductor

Saying that each crew member or each musician is responsible for success........

You understand how insane that makes you right?
Like an army without a general..... you not only sound crazy, you sound strange

 

[crows]

Let.Me.Stop.You.Right.There.

James Bond surpasses everything and adapts to changing times, the mcu might keep up with it but even then it has like 54 years to catch up as a franchise.


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James bond changed too much over the years to count.
It is a"franchise" in name only. Is not connected like the marvel universe is connected....
You cant count it as a straight connected franchise

Besides who produced those movies???

 

[ironwez20]

#CooglerDiscipleForever

Yea he directed it but who produced it? Who made sure it could fit into the universe?

 

[Wor-Gar]

As much as I'd rather watch a good Bond movie over anything the MCU has to offer, Bond is a single hero with continuing adventures. More appropriate to say Bond is like Iron Man or Capt American than the entire MCU... which has multiple crisscrossing stories.

World-building has become so hip that everyone is doing it. Star Wars. Universal Monsters. Hell, even M. Night.

But Feige has one thing they all don't. Marvel. A very deep well to draw from with 50+ years worth of material and a universe of established characters.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Besides who produced those movies???

Barbara Broccoli, since Goldeneye.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

As much as I'd rather watch a good Bond movie over anything the MCU has to offer, Bond is a single hero with continuing adventures. More appropriate to say Bond is like Iron Man or Capt American than the entire MCU... which has multiple crisscrossing stories.

World-building has become so hip that everyone is doing it. Star Wars. Universal Monsters. Hell, even M. Night.

But Feige has one thing they all don't. Marvel. A very deep well to draw from with 50+ years worth of material and a universe of established characters.

Back in 1996 or 97, Kevin Smith was offered to be in charge of ALL DC films for WB, and he said no. He could have been Feige.

 

[SNIKT1950]

I need more empirical evidence that its a good movie. They may have put something in SNIKT's popcorn. Or he simply received a contact high after 2 hours in that closed room.

5 things that elevated it over Feige's usual safe dreck:

1. Tone. The biggest problem with most MCU entries is that they feel like melodramatic bull**** aimed at kids and really immature adults. They tend to patronize their audience. BP doesn't so this. In fact it does the opposite. It's not afraid to just let loose and act like a REAL ****ing movie. Naturally those moments are at this point shocking in an MCU movie but they're all over the place in Coogler's story. You never feel like you're watching a kids movie and that in itself is a massive win (there's some segments set in the inner city that I was shocked to see).

2. The Politics. The film speaks volumes on the never-ending cycle of cause and effect that has plagued African tribes for centuries as well as Blacks everywhere. It's not Liberal propaganda. It's Coogler's blatantly honest view of his ancestry. A shockingly unsafe plot point for an MCU movie.

3. Michael B. Jordan. The guy's just talented as ****. Naturally Coogler uses him in everything. He EATS the movie with superb tenacity. His character embodies the opposing view of Boseman's. Their rivalry is one of the most pivotal and engaging aspects of the film.

4. Wakanda. It's rare to see a fully realized vision of a world that doesn't exist. Coogler masterfully achieves this thematically and visually. It's very much everything it needs to be and as a member of the real world you almost wish this fake world existed. The color, the rituals, the people...it completely obliterates the forgettable cardboard Asgard the MCU presented via 3 mediocre films.

5. The Cast. Aside from Michael B., Boseman, Kaluuya, Nyongo, Serkis, Freeman and the other showstealer - Danai Gurira (TWD) simply do a fantastic job from start to finish. They all work and feel like genuine parts of this proposed society. It's really a superb gathering of gifted actors.

All in all, Coogler just made a great film that could have easily just been another forgettable MCU movie of the week.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Back in 1996 or 97, Kevin Smith was offered to be in charge of ALL DC films for WB, and he said no. He could have been Feige.

Blech! Kevin Smith. All those contacts, all those friends, and he still couldn't do anything with it except college tours of his dumb anecdotes.

 

[Wor-Gar]

5 things that elevated it over Feige's usual safe dreck:

1. Tone. The biggest problem with most MCU entries is that they feel like melodramatic bull**** aimed at kids and really immature adults. They tend to patronize their audience. BP doesn't so this. In fact it does the opposite. It's not afraid to just let loose and act like a REAL ****ing movie. Naturally those moments are at this point shocking in an MCU movie but they're all over the place in Coogler's story. You never feel like you're watching a kids movie and that in itself is a massive win (there's some segments set in the inner city that I was shocked to see).

2. The Politics. The film speaks volumes on the never-ending cycle of cause and effect that has plagued African tribes for centuries as well as Blacks everywhere. It's not Liberal propaganda. It's Coogler's blatantly honest view of his ancestry. A shockingly unsafe plot point for an MCU movie.

3. Michael B. Jordan. The guy's just talented as ****. Naturally Coogler uses him in everything. He EATS the movie with superb tenacity. His character embodies the opposing view of Boseman's. Their rivalry is one of the most pivotal and engaging aspects of the film.

4. Wakanda. It's rare to see a fully realized vision of a world that doesn't exist. Coogler masterfully achieves this thematically and visually. It's very much everything it needs to be and as a member of the real world you almost wish this fake world existed. The color, the rituals, the people...it completely obliterates the forgettable cardboard Asgard the MCU presented via 3 mediocre films.

5. The Cast. Aside from Michael B., Boseman, Kaluuya, Nyongo, Serkis, Freeman and the other showstealer - Danai Gurira (TWD) simply do a fantastic job from start to finish. They all work and feel like genuine parts of this proposed society. It's really a superb gathering of gifted actors.

All in all, Coogler just made a great film that could have easily just been another forgettable MCU movie of the week.

Wow... I'm not sure I'm with you on the "tone" -- as its still guys in silly costumes to me (source material issue I'll never get past) and to me the more serious it gets the more improbable the outfits become -- but the rest sounds very good. I'm curious.