Masters of the Universe Classics

[RyanSD]

What gets me the most is the lying. I don't mind them having a sale, even at 50% off what I originally paid for it. What does bother me is the fact that these things were supposedly 'sold out' and now they have thousands of them to sell at discounted prices.

This coupled with the way they marketed the subs this year - 'we're cutting production to keep secondary market prices high'. Its crap like this that I'm sick of. Just sell us the goddamned toys, is that so difficult?

I think Ex-Parrot summed it up quite nicely, I'm not sick of MOTU, but I am sick of Mattel, MattyCollector, Toyguru, and any other stupid pseudonym they have Mattel at this point.

I'm in for 2012, at least for now. We'll see what the 2nd half of the year's releases looks like, or I may just bail after SW comes in.

 

[teemu]

I got my bubble boring She-ra today....the new body is great,but the head swap has "another" design flaw.Her head continually tilts down like she would be staring at someone's chest or lower section.Its not terrible,but this buy was suppose to make your perfect she-ra right? She-ra 3.0???

 

[Badvermin]

I got my bubble boring She-ra today....the new body is great,but the head swap has "another" design flaw.Her head continually tilts down like she would be staring at someone's chest or lower section.Its not terrible,but this buy was suppose to make your perfect she-ra right? She-ra 3.0???

On that note...

I'm not a fan of the angle of the neck plugs. The only figure to get it close to right is Beastman. The ability to look up is far more important to me than looking down, particularly in figures such as He-Man, Stratos, Optik and presumably Buzz-Off. Most of figures can't look up at all (RP Guards, Zodak, King & Queen, Scareglow, Clawful, etc.) and they don't even have hard hair to restrict movement.

The chin/jaw typically impedes forward motion, so it doesn't even make sense to center the hole at a 90º angle as shown in Fig 1. This is how 95% of the figures have been produced.

Instead the hole should be around 75º allowing the figures the ability to look up while still allowing the figures a slight amount of forward movement.

 

[The Craw]

Speaking of neck posts. I recently was futzing my beastman, who has been in the same pose for a couple years. And his head became really loose when i repositioned it. I mean really loose. Like you can shake the figure and the head goes swinging around with no resistance what so ever. When i first got him, I remember posing him with his head looking straight up for a pic i took. There is no way he could achieve that pose anymore. I examined the head to make sure the neck wasn't cracked or anything but it looked fine. Makes me wonder if the plastic on these figures is breaking down over time or something. Kinda like how the Goddess' hip joints just disentegrate on their own after time. Makes me worried for my other figures now.

 

[Skiman]

Speaking of neck posts. I recently was futzing my beastman, who has been in the same pose for a couple years. And his head became really loose when i repositioned it. I mean really loose. Like you can shake the figure and the head goes swinging around with no resistance what so ever. When i first got him, I remember posing him with his head looking straight up for a pic i took. There is no way he could achieve that pose anymore. I examined the head to make sure the neck wasn't cracked or anything but it looked fine. Makes me wonder if the plastic on these figures is breaking down over time or something. Kinda like how the Goddess' hip joints just disentegrate on their own after time. Makes me worried for my other figures now.

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[dedguy]

What gets me the most is the lying. I don't mind them having a sale, even at 50% off what I originally paid for it. What does bother me is the fact that these things were supposedly 'sold out' and now they have thousands of them to sell at discounted prices.

This coupled with the way they marketed the subs this year - 'we're cutting production to keep secondary market prices high'. Its crap like this that I'm sick of. Just sell us the goddamned toys, is that so difficult?

I think Ex-Parrot summed it up quite nicely, I'm not sick of MOTU, but I am sick of Mattel, MattyCollector, Toyguru, and any other stupid pseudonym they have Mattel at this point.

I'm in for 2012, at least for now. We'll see what the 2nd half of the year's releases looks like, or I may just bail after SW comes in.

Again, I agree with all of this. The lie you mention is a somewhat indirect one but they have also been way more blatant with lies. Nothing specific comes to mind at the moment though.

That keeping secondary prices high thing really ____ing pissed me off. That is literally the same exact mind set that killed the 200x line. They where so worried about keeping speculators interested with making 90% of the characters as rare as possible that they ended up screwing over retailers and collectors alike.

With collectables as with art, when you start selling to the speculator market it's game over imo. That's really bad practice and especially with collectable items we have seen it kill markets over and over and over.

 

[teemu]

Speaking of neck posts. I recently was futzing my beastman, who has been in the same pose for a couple years. And his head became really loose when i repositioned it. I mean really loose. Like you can shake the figure and the head goes swinging around with no resistance what so ever. When i first got him, I remember posing him with his head looking straight up for a pic i took. There is no way he could achieve that pose anymore. I examined the head to make sure the neck wasn't cracked or anything but it looked fine. Makes me wonder if the plastic on these figures is breaking down over time or something. Kinda like how the Goddess' hip joints just disentegrate on their own after time. Makes me worried for my other figures now.

so with Mattel using CHEAP plastic and lead filled paint,We can expect our collections to crumble and fall apart like the goddess?...nothing is made like it used to be it seems...( Toyguru laughing all the way to the Bank)

 

[Deak Starkiller]

and here's the latest custom heads i got from the .org. sorry for the bluriness of some of the pics. i can't hold a camera steady.


Zodak without helmet from the MYP cartoon:

MYP style Crawful head:

and finally a helmet-less MAA head that will be going on the snake MAA when i get him:

Holy ____balls Craw, you paint these up? GREAT work brother, glad to see you still going strong with the MOTUC. Thom, how's my collection?

 

[The Craw]

so with Mattel using CHEAP plastic and lead filled paint,We can expect our collections to crumble and fall apart like the goddess?...nothing is made like it used to be it seems...( Toyguru laughing all the way to the Bank)

If i flick the head with my fingertips it will spin around freely about 5 times like something out of The Exorcist.

Holy ____balls Craw, you paint these up? GREAT work brother, glad to see you still going strong with the MOTUC. Thom, how's my collection?

No, they were pre-painted.

 

[YoNoSe]

Thom, how's my collection?

Not a scratch.

 

[warmachine]

buy it because you like it, not because you want to turn a quick buck.

I think you took what I said out of context and no matter how "eloquently" you make your posts to explain your position it is still just that...YOUR position.

If you are a collector of a high end ANYTHING...I don't care if it's figures, cars, paintings, fine china, lamps etc...you buy it OF COURSE BECAUSE YOU LIKE IT...but you do also hope that if in the future you HAD TO or just WANTED TO sell these items you would hopefully get more or AT LEAST what you paid for it back.

Hey if it only killed you for 10 seconds that you paid $36 for some figures and the next week it went down to $20 that's YOU. Maybe you are some super enlightened individual that doesn't let things as trivial as that bother you up on your mountain but it bothers ME and it bothers the hell out of ALOT of people.

If you are some person who buys boxes and boxes of figures just to flip them on ebay and try and turn a profit then you are bad for this hobby. Plain and simple. If you have a high end toy collection and don't care if the value of it is $0 after a few years then I'm sure you also sit happily surrounded by a collection of Hasbro Phantom Menace figures because you loved that movie.

But just because you would like to think that you could get something for your prized collectibles a few years from now doesn't make you a "VILLIAN" of this hobby and you or anyone else won't convince me of that.

 

[teemu]

I know I am not a 'flipper'...I just want my extra double figures to be worth something " if " I ever needed to rid of them...at least worth enough to get my money back.Matty's $10 sale kills the collectibility of the line for me...

 

[warmachine]

I know I am not a 'flipper'...I just want my extra double figures to be worth something " if " I ever needed to rid of them...at least worth enough to get my money back.Matty's $10 sale kills the collectibility of the line for me...

teemu..I don't even usually buy doubles but hoping that my purchases one day rise in value is no crime.

 

[teemu]

teemu..I don't even usually buy doubles but hoping that my purchases one day rise in value is no crime.

I don't disagree with you...

 

[lerath666]

I think you took what I said out of context and no matter how "eloquently" you make your posts to explain your position it is still just that...YOUR position.

If you are a collector of a high end ANYTHING...I don't care if it's figures, cars, paintings, fine china, lamps etc...you buy it OF COURSE BECAUSE YOU LIKE IT...but you do also hope that if in the future you HAD TO or just WANTED TO sell these items you would hopefully get more or AT LEAST what you paid for it back.

Hey if it only killed you for 10 seconds that you paid $36 for some figures and the next week it went down to $20 that's YOU. Maybe you are some super enlightened individual that doesn't let things as trivial as that bother you up on your mountain but it bothers ME and it bothers the hell out of ALOT of people.

If you are some person who buys boxes and boxes of figures just to flip them on ebay and try and turn a profit then you are bad for this hobby. Plain and simple. If you have a high end toy collection and don't care if the value of it is $0 after a few years then I'm sure you also sit happily surrounded by a collection of Hasbro Phantom Menace figures because you loved that movie.

But just because you would like to think that you could get something for your prized collectibles a few years from now doesn't make you a "VILLIAN" of this hobby and you or anyone else won't convince me of that.

you seem to have taken my opinion as something other than that. I appologise if you felt it to be some sort of an attack.
It was not targeted at you, nor anyone in this thread. they're both opinions and generalizations.

some days i think we all need to take a step back and realise this is the Internet. There are NO facts here.

and lastly, there is a difference in being a speculator, and a scalper ( which IS the "villain" in this hobby) and being pleased that you can resell if you need.

It's just not something that I care about.

 

[teemu]

you seem to have taken my opinion as something other than that. I appologise if you felt it to be some sort of an attack.
It was not targeted at you, nor anyone in this thread. they're both opinions and generalizations.

some days i think we all need to take a step back and realise this is the Internet. There are NO facts here.

and lastly, there is a difference in being a speculator, and a scalper ( which IS the "villain" in this hobby) and being pleased that you can resell if you need.

It's just not something that I care about.

So if I am struggling to make ends meet,and I need to sell things in my collection to keep up for actual needs...I should only take a loss (which I usually do) only? and then not get my money back or even make a few bucks on certain rarer pieces?? it doesn't make sense to me ...it just sounds to me that a buyer expects to get something for much less,which the $10 Matty sale didn't really help there IMO.It just Seems the line that was marketed as a 'niche' Collector line,seems quite over produced now,which does hurt the collectability overall for MOC collecting.

 

[lerath666]

So if I am struggling to make ends meet,and I need to sell things in my collection to keep up for actual needs...I should only take a loss (which I usually do) only? and then not get my money back or even make a few bucks on certain rarer pieces?? it doesn't make sense to me ...it just sounds to me that a buyer expects to get something for much less,which the $10 Matty sale didn't really help there IMO.It just Seems the line that was marketed as a 'niche' Collector line,seems quite over produced now,which does hurt the collectability overall for MOC collecting.

no, I'm saying that buying toys ( of the collector variety, or retail), and EXPECTING to be able to sit on and and resell it later for a profit is folly.

Getting MAD at the manufacturer when this doesn't happen is also folly.

Yes, Mattel is marketing that as a selling point of the subscription. which is further folly on their part.

If you Want/ need to resell it later on, and can make a profit from the sale, Great. but getting pissy about not being able to do it just makes people look stupid.

TL;DR My point is ONLY buying with the intention of reselling it because you EXPECT it to go up in value is dumb.

 

[teemu]

no, I'm saying that buying toys ( of the collector variety, or retail), and EXPECTING to be able to sit on and and resell it later for a profit is folly.

Getting MAD at the manufacturer when this doesn't happen is also folly.

Yes, Mattel is marketing that as a selling point of the subscription. which is further folly on their part.

If you Want/ need to resell it later on, and can make a profit from the sale, Great. but getting pissy about not being able to do it just makes people look stupid.

TL;DR My point is ONLY buying with the intention of reselling it because you EXPECT it to go up in value is dumb.

I do agree with that

 

[Eamon]

I bought a Trap Jaw and stratos thinking I never bought them for my nephew. I was being a stoner and forgot he already had them.
Tried to cancel but no joy.
Bought a Moss Man though. I know he doesn't have that!

New He-man.org podcast up now to lads! Go listen, be enlightened!
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[Skiman]

My last lot and I'm out...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2708603074...LX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_506wt_1171