Masters of the Universe Classics

[Kuzeh]

Please don't use Mr. Norem's death to advance your agenda. It's in poor taste. Have a little respect, please.

Agenda? WTF?... You're crazy dude!
If anybody has an agenda it's you dude, out of nearly 60 posts half of them are about your conspiracy theories... just sayin'!

 

[Kuwahara]

A lot of our theories are based on fact though. We may be monotonous, but at least we don't take low blow jabs at other people when we get tired of reading their posts, Perhaps we should leave that kind of BS for the .org.

"But the sad part is some fans are more interested in the drama, yet this man who was a legend is ignored blatantly by the conspiracy theorists..."

So basically we should dwell on the death of an artist instead of talking about things that don't meet your approval?

 

[DPrime]

That's not a real vintage He-Man head. That's the 2000-ish commemorative reissue. Yeah, they messed up the head on that one.

This is the real deal:

I gotta get me one of those one day...

I wonder if we'll see a resurgence in vintage collecting once this line finally ends? I don't think I'd be up for a full line, but definitely a vintage He-Man and Skeletor, along with their respective mounts.

 

[Battle Ram Man]

Agenda? WTF?... You're crazy dude!
If anybody has an agenda it's you dude, out of nearly 60 posts half of them are about your conspiracy theories... just sayin'!

You can think what you like, just don't use the death of a great artist to score points on other people. It's ghoulish.

 

[Kuwahara]

That's not a real vintage He-Man head. That's the 2000-ish commemorative reissue. Yeah, they messed up the head on that one.

This is the real deal:

I gotta say, the original He-Man head from 1982 is pretty damn detailed for it's time. That's one of the things I always liked about him. I can't think of any other figure in the entire vintage line that has his level of detail (on the head/face).

 

[FatHotei]

Any other head on he-man just doesn't look right.

 

[FatHotei]

That's not a real vintage He-Man head. That's the 2000-ish commemorative reissue. Yeah, they messed up the head on that one.

Boy yeah they did! Sometimes misplaced creativity can lead to odd design choices. The vintage head IS he-man.

 

[Zodach]

Going back as far as I could:

SDCC 2014 - MOTU Discussion • Despondos: The Unofficial MOTU Toy Board • The Fwoosh Forums

This appears to be the original source. No idea if accurate or not.

"Mattel is making sweeping layoffs across the entire company. They brought back people to run the lines they felt were worth keeping, but since they are consultants they have limited contracts and no benefits. It was a corporate money saving measure and had nothing to do with how he ran MOTUC."

So maybe the story we are hearing is only HALF the story. We still don't know for sure if he was reduced to a contractor just so Mattel wont have to pay into his benefits, especially if he, and I quote "was the hardest worker at Mattel"

So the source said directly that Scott's job was reduced to a consultant and had nothing to do with his performance on MOTUC, yet here you are making up more theories that contradict the source. If the source isn't credible then that defeats your whole argument here. You're just injecting the story with whatever you want to believe to make him out to be this terrible employee that was fired.

The source clearly states that this was a corporate wide cost savings measure. Mattel's performance the last couple years has not been good, their stock prices are down, and their CEO was fired. It makes sense why they would be cutting back or restructuring jobs, especially for those working on Matty Collector products since those lines are small change money makers for Mattel.

 

[teemu]

I know right?...
But the sad part is some fans are more interested in the drama, yet this man who was a legend is ignored blatantly by the conspiracy theorists... oh well...

yes it's sad he died and it's always sad anyone dies,but did you personally know him???? We saw the pictures and yes he made great MOTU Art...but what is there continually to be said??? I think the worship of people and entertainer's and then not ackowledging them to your standard's is pathetic

Please don't use Mr. Norem's death to advance your agenda. It's in poor taste. Have a little respect, please.

you naughty "conspiracy theorist"


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[Kuwahara]

So the source said directly that Scott's job was reduced to a consultant and had nothing to do with his performance on MOTUC, yet here you are making up more theories that contradict the source. If the source isn't credible then that defeats your whole argument here. You're just injecting the story with whatever you want to believe to make him out to be this terrible employee that was fired.

The source clearly states that this was a corporate wide cost savings measure. Mattel's performance the last couple years has not been good, their stock prices are down, and their CEO was fired. It makes sense why they would be cutting back or restructuring jobs, especially for those working on Matty Collector products since those lines are small change money makers for Mattel.

LOL! So were supposed to just believe what some dude on the Fwoosh says? Really?

"You're just injecting the story with whatever you want to believe to make him out to be this terrible employee that was fired."

No. I'm adding to it my own speculation into what is still not a confirmed fact, but more of an opinion or something a Fwoosh member happened to hear as to why Neitlich was really fired. Just because someone over at Fwoosh says something doesn't mean it's correct either, and since many of them are pro Mattel/Neitlich, I don't put much stock in what they have to say. I said before that ONLY Neitlich and Mattel and a few others know why he was really fired. Your trying to spin this around as us being disgruntled haters trying to shine a negative light on Neitlich, which is laughable since Neitlich does that well enough on his own.

 

[Zodach]

Well from what we know Scott didn't leave Mattel until he had a job at JAKKS and this source indicated that there were company wide layoffs with him being brought back as a consultant and it had nothing to do with his performance. Your "speculation" is that he was demoted or terminated based on your personal opinion of the man and nothing else. You have no basis for this other than what you perceived to have gone on behind the scenes at a company which you have no experience, source, or insight into. I understand the reasons why Scott isn't looked on favorably around here, but you keep saying that he was fired and you have nothing to back that up. People leave companies all the time and look for other opportunities especially when the outlook isn't so good, which is the case at Mattel right now.

 

[Kuwahara]

Well from what we know Scott didn't leave Mattel until he had a job at JAKKS and this source indicated that there were company wide layoffs with him being brought back as a consultant and it had nothing to do with his performance. Your "speculation" is that he was demoted or terminated based on your personal opinion of the man and nothing else. You have no basis for this other than what you perceived to have gone on behind the scenes at a company which you have no experience, source, or insight into. I understand the reasons why Scott isn't looked on favorably around here, but you keep saying that he was fired and you have nothing to back that up. People leave companies all the time and look for other opportunities especially when the outlook isn't so good, which is the case at Mattel right now.

Correct, I have nothing to back up my speculations, that is why they are called SPECULATIONS. LOL!

"Well from what we know Scott didn't leave Mattel until he had a job at JAKKS"

This might be true, but only Neitlich and Mattel and maybe a few others know for sure.

"this source indicated that there were company wide layoffs with him being brought back as a consultant and it had nothing to do with his performance."

This "source" may not be 100% accurate, which is what my previous posts have been trying to convey but, alas.

"Your "speculation" is that he was demoted or terminated based on your personal opinion of the man and nothing else."

Wrong, my speculations are based on known facts about the man. My opinion of him is irrelevant. I know this doesn't exist in your revised history, but Neitlich does have a track record (which has already been discussed MANY times on this very thread) and because of the things he did in the unrevised history, I use them as the basis for my speculations.

 

[karamazov80]

This thread is always so pleasant. . .

My daughter is getting into She-Ra now, so I tracked down one of the new Matty figures for her. Was going to get her pretty flying unicorn pony, but it's going for $100+ on eBay. Outrageous! . . .or is that Jem's catchphrase?

 

[Kuzeh]

A lot of our theories are based on fact though. We may be monotonous, but at least we don't take low blow jabs at other people when we get tired of reading their posts, Perhaps we should leave that kind of BS for the .org.

"But the sad part is some fans are more interested in the drama, yet this man who was a legend is ignored blatantly by the conspiracy theorists..."

So basically we should dwell on the death of an artist instead of talking about things that don't meet your approval?

You are the one taking low jabs going on and on and on about something that doesn't serve any purpose but perpetuate nonsensical whining...
Maybe talk about productive things regarding MOTU for a change, I was really hoping people would get over Scott once he left, but some people seem to love the drama and pointless bickering... the man has left MOTU, time to move on!

You can think what you like, just don't use the death of a great artist to score points on other people. It's ghoulish.

Score points? What are you talking about? I'm here to talk MOTU... not score points...

Boy yeah they did! Sometimes misplaced creativity can lead to odd design choices. The vintage head IS he-man.

I actually can say that of all the He-Man heads we've seen over the years, my favorite is Mini-Comics He-Man, that to me is the ultimate He-Man look! Followed by the vintage one of course!

yes it's sad he died and it's always sad anyone dies,but did you personally know him???? We saw the pictures and yes he made great MOTU Art...but what is there continually to be said??? I think the worship of people and entertainer's and then not ackowledging them to your standard's is pathetic



you naughty "conspiracy theorist"


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Let's not bring worshipping to the table teemu, you're quite the expert on blind worshipping so, don't... I do not worship him, I think his legacy on MOTU is much more important than Scott's, but you guys don't seem to agree on that...

This thread is always so pleasant. . .

My daughter is getting into She-Ra now, so I tracked down one of the new Matty figures for her. Was going to get her pretty flying unicorn pony, but it's going for $100+ on eBay. Outrageous! . . .or is that Jem's catchphrase?

I know right?

Yep, I should've held onto mine to resell at a later date!! Ha!!

 

[teemu]

This thread is always so pleasant. . .

My daughter is getting into She-Ra now, so I tracked down one of the new Matty figures for her. Was going to get her pretty flying unicorn pony, but it's going for $100+ on eBay. Outrageous! . . .or is that Jem's catchphrase?

Alot of these figures (especially the heavy hitters) will likely stay that price too.There are not that many figures out there and there are not many collectors willing to give up certain pieces which is why the command in price

 

[teemu]

As if your "standards" of worship apply to me.....I am a Christian and I believe in the God of the Bible as if I should be condemned for that by you? You Call it blind faith all you want,but that is the difference between a believer in Christ and unbeliever...

Heb 11:1 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen"

and that faith to believe has been granted to me by God which is why I believe.

Phil 1:29 "For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;"

You're complaining because nobody is really acknowledging Earl Norem as if he is one of your god's...you made your point about him,now let it go!

 

[Kuzeh]

As if your "standards" of worship apply to me.....I am a Christian and I believe in the God of the Bible as if I should be condemned for that by you? You Call it blind faith all you want,but that is the difference between a believer in Christ and unbeliever...

Heb 11:1 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen"

and that faith to believe has been granted to me by God which is why I believe.

Phil 1:29 "For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;"

You're complaining because nobody is really acknowledging Earl Norem as if he is one of your god's...you made your point about him,now let it go!

Thanks for proving my point...
No, Norem's not "one of my god's"
I am saying his legacy is more important than the Scott ranting... as usual, you missed the point...

Again, you're the one who brought up "worshipping" to the conversation...

 

[FatHotei]

This thread thrives more on drama than motu. Kind of exhausting.

 

[Kuzeh]

This thread thrives more on drama than motu. Kind of exhausting.

Unfortunately it does... oh well...

 

[teemu]

Thanks for proving my point...
No, Norem's not "one of my god's"
I am saying his legacy is more important than the Scott ranting... as usual, you missed the point...

Again, you're the one who brought up "worshipping" to the conversation...

That's right! I forgot...Michael Jackson is your god

Kuzeh you have ALWAYS attacked me for my beliefs from the beginning which is why I will defend them..

and it's "your opinion" to what is more important here in discussion,but you continue to whine about what's more important to YOU!