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I am siding with Scott on this whole King Hiss torso. They should be honoring it and we should be getting it as part of the sub.

The Power-Con exclusives are over priced but its the extra 25.00 + shipping thats killer.
 
I think your right....the fact Brandon said they had something special planned for it means they had it planned all along...Secondly, here Scott admits the torso was costed in which means Mattel should HONOR what was promised by giving every subscriber a polybagged Snake Torso- PERIOD!


So you are cool taking his word now, since he left Mattel? We have zero proof he costed it in. And even if he did, if that was actually approved by the people in charge. There is no chance Mattel takes this big a PR hit if the price was already covered. No way. And his build a figure solution rings especially hollow given all his previous statements about how it was really not an option, for 7 years. But suddenly to cover his mistake it's ok? Come on. Take off the Mattel blinders and think.
 
As far as I'm concerned, they are all liars.

Then you shouldn't expect or hold them to the snake torso. If you don't believe them then problem solved. If they lied about including it, lied about it costed in ect..no reason to expect it or anything else.

Which isn't what you meant. What you meant is, you only think they lie about stuff you don't like. Otherwise you never would expect anything till it arrives at your home.
 
Regardless of truth or lies I think leaving a job and then being openly hostile on a public forum towards the people that replaced you is really unprofessional.
 
Then you shouldn't expect or hold them to the snake torso. If you don't believe them then problem solved. If they lied about including it, lied about it costed in ect..no reason to expect it or anything else.

Which isn't what you meant. What you meant is, you only think they lie about stuff you don't like. Otherwise you never would expect anything till it arrives at your home.

Grasping at straws again I see.

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So you are cool taking his word now, since he left Mattel? We have zero proof he costed it in. And even if he did, if that was actually approved by the people in charge. There is no chance Mattel takes this big a PR hit if the price was already covered. No way. And his build a figure solution rings especially hollow given all his previous statements about how it was really not an option, for 7 years. But suddenly to cover his mistake it's ok? Come on. Take off the Mattel blinders and think.

:lol mattel blinders? it's you who is defending Mattel,not me...It's you who is okay with that they told us we were getting the torso if we subscribed during the sub sale period and now we aren't as if what they are doing is perfectly okay and what Toyguru said is now invalid.

Not too sure why your in here defending Mattel and the lies they told us :dunno
 
I now see that there is a $25 charge just for the privilege of being allowed to but the exclusive figures. So for anyone not attending, that's $70 for a mere repainted Beast man!

I wish any MOTU convention all the success in the world but I don't believe in taking advantage of folks' fandom to squeeze even more money from them. A trip to LA is expensive enough for folks.
 
$70 doesn't even include whatever shipping fees they intend to charge people, Shipping would normally be irrelevant in this case, but since I think they will overcharge for shipping, It's that much more of a screwing.

I love how they are pretending to be doing non attendees a favor, while simultaneously showing they really aren't. Val is making it very clear with this "lead time" crap that if you are not going to PowerCon, you aren't a priority, but he will OFFER the chance for non attendees to get figures JUST to say that it was offered.
 
Well I am right now having a big barney on Facebook with some .org folks who are defending this with great passion.

However it does look like things like Bot Con and Joe Con charge you a premium one way or another for con exclusives or the privilege of being able to buy exclusives like a membership fee and such.

I had to be given the facts to be sure as all i was getting was the usual noise until some less noisey dudes presented the figures.

I still think it's bit mercenary but this seems to be standard practice with many specialist cons like this.
 
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I really dont mind the extra fee. Also the silly high prices wiuld be acceptable. The only thing I really dont want, is spending 25 just to learn that everything is already sold out. Also I fear the higher shipping costs for international shipping.
Rediculously, I will buy my ticket and try to get my set of 3 nevertheless. What the hell is wrong with me?! :lol
 
For the price of the figures, They should at least come in packaging for all the MOC collectors. This is apparently still up in the air.
 
For the price of the figures, They should at least come in packaging for all the MOC collectors. This is apparently still up in the air.

I believe in the announcement they say the figures will have standard motuc packaging.

I really dont mind the extra fee. Also the silly high prices wiuld be acceptable. The only thing I really dont want, is spending 25 just to learn that everything is already sold out. Also I fear the higher shipping costs for international shipping.
Rediculously, I will buy my ticket and try to get my set of 3 nevertheless. What the hell is wrong with me?! :lol

Ya, that was my worry too, but it sounds like you pay the $25 at the same time as buying the figure(s). So, I don't think we'll be spending $25 to learn everything is sold out.
 
Yeah, my understanding is it's all happening in one go. Since I'll be paying about a good $1000 to go to PowerCon all told between flight/hotel/tickets I don't think $25 and shipping is too bad at all. I mean, I'll get the experience of actually going TO the Con, which has been a blast every year I've gone. Without PowerCon I wouldn't have met a group of friends who have made my toy-collecting and personal life so much richer for knowing them. I wouldn't have had a chance to meet Earl Norem, shake his hand, and tell him what an inspiration he's been... it's amazing what a family atmosphere there is there. So much of the drama that exists online... it's just not there. Thank goodness. Or, at least, not with the people I hang out with. LOL. So, in that sense I'm getting a lot more for my money. But, if I were purely down for the toys, the $25 isn't bad. Of course, it's all relative. I always thought people buying Joe/BotCon stuff were suckers. LOL. But now that it's MOTU, my desire for them overrides my sense that I'm probably paying too much for it. :D

Exclusives are always a dicey prospect. Almost always, someone is going to be locked out of something. Do I LOVE them as a concept? No. Because I'm not really one of those people who needs to have something purely because it's rare or someone else doesn't have it. At the same time, it's a bit of a double-edged sword because you often get companies to make things they might not have otherwise. It's like the beautiful Book of the Vashanti set from Hasbro. Hasbro is taking it's sweet time shipping it out, but I nabbed one from HTS during the sale. That set would not exist at retail, but thanks to SDCC it does. Same with the phasing USS Defiant from Diamond Select.

These three seem to be following the same mold. Camo Khan and Red Beast-Man might have worked in the TRU DC/MOTU 2-packs before that lined was canned. They might have even worked out as one of the traveling Con exclusives one year. But at the rate of one per year, it could have been a long time before we saw them, if Mattel ever planned them. So... I'm torn because I totally understand why people get annoyed with them... but I really do like that they exist to get.

We were told that they should have full packaging. It'll be interesting to see what they did for Granamyr. It seems like photshopping the Red artwork green is the likeliest solution.
 
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People are way overreacting about the PowerCon exclusives... That's why they are called "exclusives" you know? Like, some people will be excluded from them... There's several exclusives I've missed out on from Conventions I cannot attend to... You either get them overpriced or through a friend or suck it up...
Such is life...
 
People are way overreacting about the PowerCon exclusives... That's why they are called "exclusives" you know? Like, some people will be excluded from them... There's several exclusives I've missed out on from Conventions I cannot attend to... You either get them overpriced or through a friend or suck it up...
Such is life...

MOTUC is a subscription based toy line unlike Transformers and GI Joe. It also has a much smaller customer base. Eroding the subscription model seems like a poor decision since Mattel plans to continue to rely on it for future toy lines. Upsetting loyal customers for the benefit of a ridiculously small convention doesn't seem like a good idea.

Affordability and low hassle are vital in today's marketplace. Most companies recognize this and convention exclusives are typically much easier and cheaper to obtain than they were ten years ago. Up until this decision, Mattel had been part of this growing trend.
 
But these exclusives were requested by PowerCon, they are footing the bill, not Mattel...
Obtaining certain exclusives is anything but easy... Have you ever tried to get a SDCC Funko exclusive?
How about Hasbro?
People are just drowning in a cup of water...
 
"But these exclusives were requested by PowerCon, they are footing the bill, not Mattel... "

I seriously doubt this.

Isn't Val always crying poverty over at the .borg?

I think Mattel is footing the bill for these.
 
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