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Excuse me, but are you attempting to provoke me? You are taking my verb out of context...I was referring specifically to his having had this atmosphere of open hatred pop up at his rallies in support of his candidacy -- a development I truly don't think he foresaw getting this far out of hand. And a development that will be an awful legacy for him unless he can make a positive out of it.

Maybe I shouldn't have posted here in your personal thread?

It isn't McCain's fault that some inbreds show up at his rallies. Nothing for him to be ashamed of. It will not be his legacy. Gotta expect the bigots to show up on the side of who ever is against the black guy. He does not need to redeem for them.
 
I haven't heard him denounce the tactics employed by the "anchors" on MSNBC.

Which tactics are these?

And, previous Democrat AND Republican campaigns have been just as dirty as anything McCain has done this time.

I'm not so sure. Don't get me wrong - the Democrats are no saints. But this is the first election in living memory where a candidate is essentially inciting violence through inflammatory lies and hateful rhetoric. It's been reported the Secret Service has gotten involved to some degree. I honestly cannot remember a presidential or vice presidential campaign ever comparing the opposition to terrorists or standing idly by while their supporters openly call for their deaths.
 
Kudos to McCain for saying the right then and trying to clean up some of the mess that Palin has made for him.
 
I was following you pretty well until you tossed this bit in. There is a (subtle) implication in your tone that the Democrats are never guilty of such tactics. We all need to be willing to acknowledge that both parties have been doing this for decades, and it needs to stop. FROM BOTH SIDES.

Is McCain more guilty of it this time? Absolutely. And it will cost him the election. But Obama is no saint. I haven't heard him denounce the tactics employed by the "anchors" on MSNBC. And, previous Democrat AND Republican campaigns have been just as dirty as anything McCain has done this time.

The swift boat stuff, the Willie Horton, the infamous Jesse Helms "white hands" ad, etc. a long line of vile, hate-filled personal smears. All the dirty tricks the Lee Atwaters of the world helped to usher in.

I certainly don't think the Dems, or any politicians for that matter, are saints. lol. But I can't recall any ad or statement from the Democratic campaign implying McCain is a pedophile, terrorist, drug addict, hates America, "not one of us" or whathaveyou. Have the anchors on MSNBC said such lies about McCain's character? examples? I'm not saying you're wrong, but simply stating or believing that both sides conduct equally dirty campaigns doesn't make it so.

If I heard Obama or Biden say such disgusting personal, untrue things about McCain, I'd denounce them also. If you'd like to point about the personal lies the Dems have told about McCain's character then be my guest. I've only heard Obama and Biden say good things about McCain as a American and a war hero and attack the man's judgment and record and not the man himself. I'm glad McCain finally came out and defended Obama and called him a good man, which he was booed for by frightened, angry, misinformed supporters.

It seems like every time one points out how underhanded and vile one side is behaving, the retort is "well, the other guys are saying it also". That comes across as a bit juvenile and childish to me, as if it condones bad behavior if others do it too. As teachers and parents point out to children making that argument, "I'm not talking about what Jimmy down the street does, I'm talking about your behavior."
 
I think you need to calm down a bit. I never accused Obama of any of those things, so I really don't know where this sudden venom is coming from. If anything I pointed out that Obama is not guilty of the same level of personal attacks that McCain is. But to say that he has run a flawlessly issue-based campaign would be disingenuous.

Childish? No. Disappointed with all parties involved (for a period much longer than just this election cycle)? Yes.
 
I think you need to calm down a bit. I never accused Obama of any of those things, so I really don't know where this sudden venom is coming from. If anything I pointed out that Obama is not guilty of the same level of personal attacks that McCain is. But to say that he has run a flawlessly issue-based campaign would be disingenuous.

Childish? No. Disappointed with all parties involved (for a period much longer than just this election cycle)? Yes.

Ha. I'm very calm. :D sorry if it came across otherwise. Should've thrown in more wookies or bananas. :chew :banana

Just looking for specific examples of character assassination perpetuated by the dem candidates themselves or the Obama campaign.

Also, what are these tactics the MSNBC anchors have engaged in that you think Obama should denounce?
 
But I can't recall any ad or statement from the Democratic campaign implying McCain is a pedophile, terrorist, drug addict, hates America, "not one of us" or whathaveyou.

Also, what are these tactics the MSNBC anchors have engaged in that you think Obama should denounce?

Entropy Chicken: Doing my dirty work since 2008.
 
Entropy Chicken: Doing my dirty work since 2008.

Heh. You're gonna get me on ignore lists too with that kinda talk. :lol

Personally, I don't think Obama or McCain should have to denounce anything that's been said by pundits on MSNBC or FOX. Now stuff that's said by their staff, tv ads or supporters at rallies is a different story, IMO.
 
I believe McCain does regret listening to his handlers about using this negative tact and his campaign will pay for it. I don't think this strategy could possibly work at this late stage unless they found something new and true the seriously impugned Obama's character.

In the clip when someone yells out "terrorist!" about Obama, you can see McCain flinch and scowl. I can't really blame him for not denouncing the person - why call attention to it when it's possible that not everyone heard it?
 
lmao check this out
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I commend McCain for responding to the stupid attacks about Obama being a A-RAB or being a terrorist or being the anti-Christ or whatever, but its not his job either and its really not the normal republican's duty to shout down every extremist.

Is Obama and the rest of the dems out there denouncing the extremist leftists that call the republican party "warmongers"?

That said, the Republicans should have been destroying Obama based on his socialist ideas.
 
Damn, that's some great stuff... "I just can't trust him, He's an Arab". WTF!

I can't trust you lady, you are a moron :lol
 
Damn, that's some great stuff... "I just can't trust him, He's an Arab". WTF!

I can't trust you lady, you are a moron :lol

You can't make this stuff up:


Lady: "I can't trust him...he's...he's an Arab."

McCain: "No...no he's not." (takes the mic from her hand)

Lady: "No?"

McCain: "No."

Lady sits back down quietly.
 
lmao check this out
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Obama likes the Jonas Brothers. Well, we know who Brodie is voting for! :lol
 
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