McCain Shocker!

[barbelith]

Actually, it is the truth.

I'm sorry, but it's not. The GAO report revealed 25% of the companies paying no taxes topped $50 million in receipts or $250 million in assets. And we may differ on this, but even a $5 million business is hardly a mom-n-pop operation.

 

[RoboDad]

She's been governor for less than two years.

Which, technically, gives her 18 more months of executive branch experience than Obama has.

But I still won't vote for her.

 

[Spartan Rex]

She's been governor for less than two years.

Obama has been a senator for 140 days....thats it!

 

[pixletwin]

Good comeback....not.
Her conservative bonafides are in order.
Toss a reason out.

RoboDad has already expressed his ideas on this if you read back a bit.

 

[barbelith]

Which, technically, gives her 18 more months of executive branch experience than Obama has.

Yep. But considerably less government service and no foreign experience.

 

[ENDO-HUNTER]

McCain just lost. :chew

Don't be so sure man. She is a FIRECRACKER and has amazing appeal. Very well spoken. Has an energy plan beyond just oil. She's an NRA member!!! I am down for this ticket. Great choice for McCain. Women will take notice!! Can't wait for the debates.:chew

 

[Darklord Dave]

If we can keep this civil this might be a worthwhile thread.

In the next couple of months they have to spin Palin as the next Hillary so that they can get the anti-Obamites to cross the line. But they also have to spin her as a conservative balance to McCain's more centrist leanings.

I'm glad I'm not working for the Republican party's PR firm.

 

[Spartan Rex]

RoboDad has already expressed his ideas on this if you read back a bit.

Sorry, I dont care that much.

 

[RoboDad]

I'm glad I'm not working for the Republican party's PR firm.

You and me, both!

I feel sorry for the people who are tasked with bringing people like me back into the fold. It ain't gonna happen.

 

[Spartan Rex]

Obama has been a senator for 140 days....thats it!

...and most of his votes were recorded as "Present."
What a pillar of conviction.

 

[ProgMatinee]

Whatever the government tries to do to help middleclass jobs probably isn't enough. Its got to be a cultural thing. Specifically an economic cultural thing.

If you can earn 7% returns by investing in a company that hires Americans, maybe thats better than a 9% return from a company that hires Chinese.

Unfortunately, the majority of owners of stocks funnel through corporations themselves (mutual funds, banks, etc) so its corportations making decisions on corporations. Its all statistics and no soul.

Whats unfortunate is if I invented the greatest new product but wanted to build the factory here and hire 10,000 employees at a decent wage all my potential investors will freak and go invest in some cheaply made Chinese built product.

 

[barbelith]

Obama has been a senator for 140 days....thats it!

More like four years.

 

[barbelith]

Whatever the government tries to do to help middleclass jobs probably isn't enough. Its got to be a cultural thing. Specifically an economic cultural thing.

I agree. Basically it requires business owners to put country before greed. With all the talk of patriotism you'd think this would already be on the agenda.

 

[sirrobert]

Socialized health care (i.e., no health care at all), rampant illegal immigration, no school choice for parents who want their children to get a real education (as opposed to the tripe that passes for public education), $10/gallon gasoline, a much-too-soft approach to the war on terror, expansion of abortion "rights" laws to new obscene levels, significant tax increases. And those are just the things that spring immediately to mind.

Despite what democrats seem to believe, Obama is a very divisive candidate. Of course, the press (judging by Chris Matthews' orgasmic reaction to Obama's speech last night) will spin all of these things into wonderful positives.

Robodad,

I know that Dems are usually pegged as the tax hikers but didn't Obama mention last night that he would give tax cuts to 95% of Americans? He also stated that he would elimanate the Capitla Gains Tax. To me Obama speaks more of a pro business platform than most Dems and many Republicans do.

In addition He seems to want to shift focus on "The War on Terror" from Iraq to Afghanistan and Pakistan. I know that some Hawks wouldn't deign to talk to Iran face to face as Biden suggests but it could be a start. Bill Kristol himself said on Fox News that he loved Obama's speech.

 

[barbelith]

Very well spoken.

I like much about Palin on paper but I must admit she felt like a PTA chapter head speaking this morning. She's really going to have to step up on that score if she wants to compete.

 

[ENDO-HUNTER]

I like much about Palin on paper but I must admit she felt like a PTA chapter head speaking this morning. She's really going to have to step up on that score if she wants to compete.

She will. Wait and see. This just got really interesting

 

[hoodonit00]

Anyone that votes for 4 more years of the same ol' last 8 years is............................

(Not that obama is that much better but C'mon)

Smart? Has the best interest of the country? Realizes that Obama is not what this country needs? Or were you just gonna put an ignorant ol name in there in this basically civilized thread.

 

[sirrobert]

If we can keep this civil this might be a worthwhile thread.

In the next couple of months they have to spin Palin as the next Hillary so that they can get the anti-Obamites to cross the line. But they also have to spin her as a conservative balance to McCain's more centrist leanings.

I'm glad I'm not working for the Republican party's PR firm.

Totally agree Darklord dave on the potential for thoughtful discussion on this thread.

 

[barbelith]

Smart? Has the best interest of the country?

How is the country better today than under the last Democratic president?

 

[ProgMatinee]

Can someone tell me McCain's basic domestic plan?