Her grandmother is arguably the real hybrid, but she never showed those powers. So whatever she inherited, skipped 2 generations.
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And punisher 2004. Don’t forget that movie. It’s a great early 00s marvel film.
Rewatched a bunch of Infinity Saga movies this past week. Cap trilogy, GotG 1 and 2, Thor TDW and Ragnarok, IW/EG.
Man does it all continue to hold up. It truly is astounding just how many solid films are in Phases 1-3. That's not even counting IM1, Avengers 1, etc. Thor TDW is even surprisingly watchable compared to what we're getting now.
And I'm continued to be convinced that everything really does end with EG (though I don't mind adding FFH and NWH for fun Spidey goodness.) I mean we had 23 freaking movies that all feel like they're on the same road map and adhering to a unifying super-narrative.
My kids and I finished Ms. Marvel prior to revisiting the IS and while her character has some appeal it just cannot compare to what came before. In fact after going through the Infinity Saga and ending with IW/EG back to back with it's super powerful and satisfying ending we're sitting there just taking in the closing credits of EG and then Disney+ throws up that big screen "Because you watched Avengers Endgame" with a huge thumbnail for Ms. Marvel. All three of us spontaneously burst out laughing at the absurdity that MM would in any way be a satisfying follow-up to IW/EG, lol.
As I said NWH was fun (as was MOM) and I'm looking forward to Wakanda Forever but I'm so grateful that EG ends with such a satisfying and definitive curtain call making it very easy to compartmentalize everything that follows.
Man does it all continue to hold up. It truly is astounding just how many solid films are in Phases 1-3. That's not even counting IM1, Avengers 1, etc. Thor TDW is even surprisingly watchable compared to what we're getting now.
And I'm continued to be convinced that everything really does end with EG (though I don't mind adding FFH and NWH for fun Spidey goodness.) I mean we had 23 freaking movies that all feel like they're on the same road map and adhering to a unifying super-narrative.
My kids and I finished Ms. Marvel prior to revisiting the IS and while her character has some appeal it just cannot compare to what came before. In fact after going through the Infinity Saga and ending with IW/EG back to back with it's super powerful and satisfying ending we're sitting there just taking in the closing credits of EG and then Disney+ throws up that big screen "Because you watched Avengers Endgame" with a huge thumbnail for Ms. Marvel. All three of us spontaneously burst out laughing at the absurdity that MM would in any way be a satisfying follow-up to IW/EG, lol.
As I said NWH was fun (as was MOM) and I'm looking forward to Wakanda Forever but I'm so grateful that EG ends with such a satisfying and definitive curtain call making it very easy to compartmentalize everything that follows.
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It was great closure, that's for sure. Coincidentally, it also helped with my figure collecting/financial habits. Limiting my MCU Hot Toys collection to figures solely from Phase I-III has helped keep me sane these last few years.
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Every time I sit down and Watch the IW/EG combo I am excited all over again. It's incredible how those two films combined together tell such an amazing story. Sure, Hulk got nerfed but nothing is perfect...Ok, ESB is perfect, but that's it. IW/EG was six hours of mastery and I enjoyed every minute of it! This Phase 4-6 has me "meh" right now, but maybe they'll pull off something decent with it, but it will never surpass Phases 1-3.
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Yikes.
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I thought he did well with Shang-Chi. Not sure how that will translate to a film of this size, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
I enjoyed Shang-Chi as well but not because it was particularly epic or poignant. He seemed capable of turning in two decent hours of visually appealing fluff but I didn't get any indication that he'd be the right man to helm something important like the culmination of a Phase. But this Phase is already meh at best so what harm can he really do at this point, lol.
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Neal136
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Hahaha ... right. And you never know ... he just might surprise us.
I can't say I expected ahead of time what we ended up getting out of the Russo Brothers.
Agreed but that all changed after their very first MCU film and Shang-Chi is no TWS.
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Agreed but that all changed after their very first MCU film and Shang-Chi is no TWS.
Correct ... but not much is.
I don't think it's possible to think things will always continue to improve/get better. If film history has taught us anything, it's that this is almost never the case.
And that's OK. I can (and will) still be entertained by these movies and this shared universe knowing full well that they will likely never top Endgame/The Infinity Saga.
No kidding! A 23 film Saga of mostly good/great films that somehow peaked right at the end when it mattered most!
(And I agree with those who find IW superior to EG but EG was still rock solid IMO and delivered one of the single most amazing theatrical experiences of my life.)So yeah that's why I'm not really sweating the lackluster new stuff. If anything is good like NWH or MOM then great and if not no big since the Infinity Saga doesn't need anything added on to it to be enjoyed as a self-contained mega-Saga with many different tonal offerings (TWS vs. Ragnarok, etc.) depending on your mood.
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No kidding! A 23 film Saga of mostly good/great films that somehow peaked right at the end when it mattered most!
Yup ... exactly. If I'm ranking the MCU, I put Endgame ahead of Infinity War, but they're really 1 and 1A to me. I see them as one long movie. I'll also admit that IW is a better-made film, but I still like Endgame a bit more. There are just more emotional beats in there for me, and other than a few nitpicks here and there, I could not have hoped for a better culmination to TIS.
thought visually and the vibe of Shang-chi was great..so something with the idealism of Kang could work with this director
I think the plot of Shang -chi was too simple . If Kang Dynasty involves a war…this director can do it
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I wished the plot for Shang-Chi was more simplistic. The final third was just visual noise for me, if it stuck closer to the first hour I think I would have liked the movie far more. As it was it kind of fades into mediocrity for me, but I don’t know if they have an easy slot in because most of Phase 4 has been mediocre to me. Doesn’t mean it’s the wrong choice, but I honestly probably would have preferred a new director who hasn’t been involved with this Phase.
In comparison, The Winter Soldier is still my Number 1 MCU movie and it may always retain that spot because it was the moment where this became so much more. As much as I enjoyed the first Avengers, looking back, a lot of it looks very TV movie in its production values. The Russos stepped the entire franchise up in my eyes with Winter Soldier and thus were the easy choices to helm the biggest MCU movies and, to me at least, basically knocked them out of the park. That’s a high bar, probably the highest in blockbuster entertainment this century. So it’ll be interesting to see how these movies compare. Does this mean he’ll also do Secret Wars given that it’s releasing only 6 months later?
In comparison, The Winter Soldier is still my Number 1 MCU movie and it may always retain that spot because it was the moment where this became so much more. As much as I enjoyed the first Avengers, looking back, a lot of it looks very TV movie in its production values. The Russos stepped the entire franchise up in my eyes with Winter Soldier and thus were the easy choices to helm the biggest MCU movies and, to me at least, basically knocked them out of the park. That’s a high bar, probably the highest in blockbuster entertainment this century. So it’ll be interesting to see how these movies compare. Does this mean he’ll also do Secret Wars given that it’s releasing only 6 months later?
That’s why everyone was pining for the Russos to do Kang and Secret Wars so much but Feige has took them out of the equation completely and they don’t want to come back…
But never say never..the russos can balance a climatic war based storyline and at the same time, bring everyone together
Feige is still pissed that the Russos outed him as wanting to have a bland, vanilla-style MCU before they convinced him to let them make Civil War, lol.
Then the other day they said that Phase 4 sucks so yeah, I can't imagine that they'll be be back--ever.
I'm glad though, what they achieved can never be matched and with the characters they'd be left with they'd have no choice but to deliver something far, far below what we enjoyed in the IS.
Then the other day they said that Phase 4 sucks so yeah, I can't imagine that they'll be be back--ever.
I'm glad though, what they achieved can never be matched and with the characters they'd be left with they'd have no choice but to deliver something far, far below what we enjoyed in the IS.
I’m an avid fan of the Infinity Saga from the comics…some of best writing in Marvel..that being said ..I was a huge fan of the original Secret Wars saga….so if they can duplicate that great series I think it could top EG…but that’s a tall order IMOFeige is still pissed that the Russos outed him as wanting to have a bland, vanilla-style MCU before they convinced him to let them make Civil War, lol.
Then the other day they said that Phase 4 sucks so yeah, I can't imagine that they'll be be back--ever.
I'm glad though, what they achieved can never be matched and with the characters they'd be left with they'd have no choice but to deliver something far, far below what we enjoyed in the IS.
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