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Kinda sad how they iron man was supposed to connect with the other marvel films out during that time but studios started getting greedy and playing keep away. But then again that was due to the Disney buyout and fox and Sony didn’t want to work with Disney during that time.
 
Anybody see those namor pics 👀.
Those black panther movie photos kinda disappointed me tbh
 
Anybody see those namor pics 👀.
Those black panther movie photos kinda disappointed me tbh

@Victor

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All I see is Aztec. Not even Atlantean.
 
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I'm rooting for Surfer myself. He'd nail the slightly detached, somber, alien style, then be able to go on a Wick-style freakout when Norrid's pushed too far.
I too am hoping for this will be the case. Despite hoping he gets signed for a role such as Surfer, which should be a multi picture deal, I wouldn't be surprised if they cast him as a villain and waste him in one film. As you know, the MCU does this a lot. We are likely to see this trend play out yet again this week with Thor with Bale as Gorr..

Jude Law
Mads Mikkelson
Cate Blanchett
Micheal B. Jordon
Lee Pace
Etc

Too many wasted roles filled with actors and actresses that could have offered more.
 
@Victor

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All I see is Aztec. Not even Atlantean.
It's exactly what I feared. This isn't Namor, it's an OC. It's White Tiger by way of trashing Atlantis and Namor. As an OC it could've been cool, sure. But this is a moronic decision made just to counter the more "classic" Aquaman version of Atlantis, made even worse by subpar casting. What is this design? What is that hair? What is that sorry excuse for a "beard"? This isn't Namor, this is literally an Aztec-inspired OC played by a homely guy from down the street, with nothing that makes him "Namor". Even the wings make no sense considering Namor had them because of the Hermes motif. And now "Namor" gets his powers from a literal god. A jaguar god at that, when the Aztec god of rain is entirely different, all so that they can have a literal god catfight between Wakanda and MesoAmerican Wakanda. Hell, how does "Namor" even work as a name when it has no linguistic connection to the Aztec bit? It's literally just branding, nothing more. It's all so corporate and soulless.

According to the leaks that keep coming, there's even a flashback where MesoAmerican Wakan-I mean "Namor's Nation" battles the Conquistadors. So, let me get this straight. An entire continent, the Eternals and a race of super-powered underwater people backed by literal gods, couldn't take on... 200 Spaniards? I guess baseline Meds in the MCU have higher power stats. Maybe Zeus ****** everyone's mum and they're all demigods...

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"Aaaaand... flick!"

Whatever. Honestly, at this point, I don't care. I genuinely have stopped caring. I'm tired of poor adaptations, I'm tired of awful MCU designs, and I dislike the flicks themselves too much to keep being invested in any of these beyond some childhood nostalgia. As long as I get my Vaders, my Dooms and Stranges, a Spock here, a Lantern there and so on, I'll be satisfied. Even my Illuminati display I've cut down to 6 figures, one for each Gem as intended. The original team was Stark, Reed, Xavier, Strange, Bolt and Namor. Namor's now out and I'll be replacing him with Captain Britain, who, let's be honest, makes more sense and he's a tie-in with the Hickman era in my mind. And I like Brian more than Namor; honestly I liked the latter more because of aesthetics than anything else, as base Namor was more often than not an annoying little ****... Wow, I'm making strides. Frost & Namor used to be some of my favourites and in recent years I find myself disliking them more and more. Next thing you know I'll be reading Superman...

All that said, in a way it's freeing. If I can cut out someone like Namor that simply, then I really am less of a completionist than I thought. My new rule is that unless the figure is 80% soft goods, there's a headsculpt, and the actor/actress is handsome/beautiful, I'm not even thinking about buying it. I'm not paying 300€ for no-names with pudgy faces and the pleather messes that are MCU "designs".

Miller would genuinely be a much better comic accurate Namor. Handsome with refined features, built, over 6ft and naturally crazy. Damn, now I find myself wishing for EzraMor...

The only thing that I'm interested in from this dumpster fire is seeing if the Doom rumors are true, which I expect they are. I doubt they'll have the two POC EthnoNations fight and not part in ammicable terms, with the real culprit being a Euro to make some colonial allegory or whatever (current Black Panther comics literally have a villain called "The Colonialist"). I don't care, I just hope it gives me a proper DoomWar adaptation next so that I can see Doom wrecking entire nations. The rumor is that this lady is playing Lucia Von Bardas:

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Bendis' OC IronGirl discovers some Vibranium and she's part of her University faculty or something, war between MesoAmerican Wakanda and Wakanda breaks out over Vibranium, blablablabla, Doom's revealed to be behind it in the post credits. That's the current rumour at least, but it sounds plausible enough. Honestly, I never bought Doom and Namor as friends, and Stark is dead, so I'm hoping we'll at least get his bromance with Strange. It was always his best and most realistic friendship.

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I too am hoping for this will be the case. Despite hoping he gets signed for a role such as Surfer, which should be a multi picture deal, I wouldn't be surprised if they cast him as a villain and waste him in one film. As you know, the MCU does this a lot. We are likely to see this trend play out yet again this week with Thor with Bale as Gorr..

Jude Law
Mads Mikkelson
Cate Blanchett
Micheal B. Jordon
Lee Pace
Etc

Too many wasted roles filled with actors and actresses that could have offered more.
The MCU sure knows how to utterly waste brilliant actors and then make due with Z-Listers. What they did with Ronan, a very interesting and classic Marvel character played by a brilliant actor like Pace, was downright criminal. I get that someone such as Bale would want a one-and-done nothing role for the paycheck, but Mikkelsen and Law being throwaway mooks when Kang is played by a goofy Z-Lister infuriates me to no end. I hate this casting choice like I have hated nothing else. Even AztecMor bothers me less. At least I'll just swap a head on top of the doll, since he's clothed from the neck down, and call it a day. If they waste someone like Fassbender and McAvoy in the future too I'll be beyond mad.

I'm hoping Mads at least will return in DS3 as Dormammu's avatar or something to that effect, since they're bringing in Clea. Maybe Eva Green as Umar too. I'd buy those figures in an instant.

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Keanu's been in talks with Marvel for ages now, so I think he'll ultimately grab a role he likes. Surfer would work the best, but I'm willing to see what they cook up. He wanted GR IIRC, but the popular rumor these days is that it's Norman Reedus who got it. However they can have both Johnny and Danny, with one more "grungy" and the other more horror inspired like in the Zadkiel era. I could see Reedus as Johnny, and Keanu as a JonCon-esque tortured type Danny with the blue flames and everything. They could bring in Robbie too, but unless he's got the anime skull I'm not interested.
 
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It's exactly what I feared. This isn't Namor, it's an OC. It's White Tiger by way of trashing Atlantis and Namor. As an OC it could've been cool, sure. But this is a moronic decision made just to counter the more "classic" Aquaman version of Atlantis, made even worse by subpar casting. What is this design? What is that hair? What is that sorry excuse for a "beard"? This isn't Namor, this is literally an Aztec-inspired OC played by a homely guy from down the street, with nothing that makes him "Namor". Even the wings make no sense considering Namor had them because of the Hermes motif. And now "Namor" gets his powers from a literal god. A jaguar god at that, when the Aztec god of rain is entirely different, all so that they can have a literal god catfight between Wakanda and MesoAmerican Wakanda. Hell, how does "Namor" even work as a name when it has no linguistic connection to the Aztec bit? It's literally just branding, nothing more. It's all so corporate and soulless.

According to the leaks that keep coming, there's even a flashback where MesoAmerican Wakan-I mean "Namor's Nation" battles the Conquistadors. So, let me get this straight. An entire continent, the Eternals and a race of super-powered underwater people backed by literal gods, couldn't take on... 200 Spaniards? I guess baseline Meds in the MCU have higher power stats. Maybe Zeus ****** everyone's mum and they're all demigods...

thor-love-thunder-russell-crowe-zeus.png


"Aaaaand... flick!"

Whatever. Honestly, at this point, I don't care. I genuinely have stopped caring. I'm tired of poor adaptations, I'm tired of awful MCU designs, and I dislike the flicks themselves too much to keep being invested in any of these beyond some childhood nostalgia. As long as I get my Vaders, my Dooms and Stranges, a Spock here, a Lantern there and so on, I'll be satisfied. Even my Illuminati display I've cut down to 6 figures, one for each Gem as intended. The original team was Stark, Reed, Xavier, Strange, Bolt and Namor. Namor's now out and I'll be replacing him with Captain Britain, who, let's be honest, makes more sense and he's a tie-in with the Hickman era in my mind. And I like Brian more than Namor; honestly I liked the latter more because of aesthetics than anything else, as base Namor was more often than not an annoying little ****... Wow, I'm making strides. Frost & Namor used to be some of my favourites and in recent years I find myself disliking them more and more. Next thing you know I'll be reading Superman...

All that said, in a way it's freeing. If I can cut out someone like Namor that simply, then I really am less of a completionist than I thought. My new rule is that unless the figure is 80% soft goods, there's a headsculpt, and the actor/actress is handsome/beautiful, I'm not even thinking about buying it. I'm not paying 300€ for no-names with pudgy faces and the pleather messes that are MCU "designs".


Miller would genuinely be a much better comic accurate Namor. Handsome with refined features, built, over 6ft and naturally crazy. Damn, now I find myself wishing for EzraMor...


The only thing that I'm interested in from this dumpster fire is seeing if the Doom rumors are true, which I expect they are. I doubt they'll have the two POC EthnoNations fight and not part in ammicable terms, with the real culprit being a Euro to make some colonial allegory or whatever (current Black Panther comics literally have a villain called "The Colonialist"). I don't care, I just hope it gives me a proper DoomWar adaptation next so that I can see Doom wrecking entire nations. The rumor is that this lady is playing Lucia Von Bardas:

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Bendis' OC IronGirl discovers some Vibranium and she's part of her University faculty or something, war between MesoAmerican Wakanda and Wakanda breaks out over Vibranium, blablablabla, Doom's revealed to be behind it in the post credits. That's the current rumour at least, but it sounds plausible enough. Honestly, I never bought Doom and Namor as friends, and Stark is dead, so I'm hoping we'll at least get his bromance with Strange. It was always his best and most realistic friendship.

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The MCU sure knows how to utterly waste brilliant actors and then make due with Z-Listers. What they did with Ronan, a very interesting and classic Marvel character played by a brilliant actor like Pace, was downright criminal. I get that someone such as Bale would want a one-and-done nothing role for the paycheck, but Mikkelsen and Law being throwaway mooks when Kang is played by a goofy Z-Lister infuriates me to no end. I hate this casting choice like I have hated nothing else. Even AztecMor bothers me less. At least I'll just swap a head on top of the doll, since he's clothed from the neck down, and call it a day. If they waste someone like Fassbender and McAvoy in the future too I'll be beyond mad.

I'm hoping Mads at least will return in DS3 as Dormammu's avatar or something to that effect, since they're bringing in Clea. Maybe Eva Green as Umar too. I'd buy those figures in an instant.

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Keanu's been in talks with Marvel for ages now, so I think he'll ultimately grab a role he likes. Surfer would work the best, but I'm willing to see what they cook up. He wanted GR IIRC, but the popular rumor these days is that it's Norman Reedus who got it. However they can have both Johnny and Danny, with one more "grungy" and the other more horror inspired like in the Zadkiel era. I could see Reedus as Johnny, and Keanu as a JonCon-esque tortured type Danny with the blue flames and everything. They could bring in Robbie too, but unless he's got the anime skull I'm not interested.

Hmm, I must say, you should be the head casting director for all these superhero flicks, I feel you'd try do the characters justice.
 
Micheal B. Jordan
Lee Pace
Etc

Too many wasted roles filled with actors and actresses that could have offered more.

I'm still a believer that Jordan will become the new Black Panther. He's the only person from the first film that has shown he can carry a movie franchise by himself. The MCU will find some way to bring him back. The Multi-Verse situation kind of opens up the option to bring anyone back at any time.
 
Again HUGE mistake not recasting tchalla. They seemed almost proud of not doing it. Chadwick would want that. And further more that wasn’t his character. We finally get arguably the most iconic black superhero on screen and you won’t recast him? Huge no and if they leak is true the movie is gonna lose a ton of money. Sheesh besides no way home and mom and some of the d plus shows phase 4 is sinking into very dangerous waters of crap.

Imagine a captain America movie with his side characters as the main focus and it’s called America forever. That’s what this feels like.
 
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Again HUGE mistake not recasting tchalla. They seemed almost proud of not doing it. Chadwick would want that. And further more that wasn’t his character. We finally get arguably the most iconic black superhero on screen and you won’t recast him? Huge no and if they leak is true the movie is gonna lose a ton of money. Sheesh besides no way home and mom and some of the d plus shows phase 4 is sinking into very dangerous waters of crap.

Imagine a captain America movie with his side characters as the main focus and it’s called America forever. That’s what this feels like.
It's okay. There is one who can save it.

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Clown Kang baby!
 
Again HUGE mistake not recasting tchalla. They seemed almost proud of not doing it. Chadwick would want that. And further more that wasn’t his character. We finally get arguably the most iconic black superhero on screen and you won’t recast him? Huge no and if they leak is true the movie is gonna lose a ton of money. Sheesh besides no way home and mom and some of the d plus shows phase 4 is sinking into very dangerous waters of crap.

Imagine a captain America movie with his side characters as the main focus and it’s called America forever. That’s what this feels like.
While I agree with your sentiments wasn’t there a big outcry to not recast soon after his death!
 
Again HUGE mistake not recasting tchalla. They seemed almost proud of not doing it. Chadwick would want that. And further more that wasn’t his character. We finally get arguably the most iconic black superhero on screen and you won’t recast him? Huge no and if they leak is true the movie is gonna lose a ton of money. Sheesh besides no way home and mom and some of the d plus shows phase 4 is sinking into very dangerous waters of crap.

Imagine a captain America movie with his side characters as the main focus and it’s called America forever. That’s what this feels like.
While I agree with your sentiments wasn’t there a big outcry to not recast soon after his death!
Yeah, I 100% agree that they should have recast T'Challa but in the wake of CB's death Marvel would have been bombarded with negative press. The ironic thing is that there was universal love for Black Panther from the Black community as they finally had proper representation in the MCU's superhero pantheon, and T'Challa was at the forefront of that representation. But then CB died and the majority of those same people didn't want him recast, and that effectively eliminates the franchise's most important character and limits the storytelling options going forward. Another example of why people shouldn't make important decisions when they're emotional.
 
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