All the hate really comes from Raiden taking over the starring role unfortunately. I was on the hate train too, we all were.
It's funny, because I can't think of a better successor to Solid Snake's legacy than Raiden. He's a complete badass, and he's not even living in Snake's shadow. It got me to thinking, that Kojima must have had some incredible things prepared post MGS 2, but we never even gave him a chance. Instead, we clamored for more Snake, so he followed up with the Solid Snake clone known as Big Boss >__>.
In hindsight yes, but his feminine voice and girl body were the big problems with it. But when you take into account where and what his character would become, he's definitely a good successor. But still no one tops Solido Snakuu.
I nearly spat and smashed my newly bought PS2 way back in November 2001. I HATED MGS2. All the hype for this piece of crap? I remember in an issue of OPM, Kojima said that he was waiting all his life to include the themes of MGS2 in a game but since he's forced to make more and more MGS games, that statement got buried somewhere.
MGR to me represents what you can do to salvage such a bloated series and just have fun. Raiden has an infinite amount of possibilities and I'm all for that.
Well, for my money, Raiden's a much more compelling character than Big Bloated Boss.
In hindsight yes, but his feminine voice and girl body were the big problems with it. But when you take into account where and what his character would become, he's definitely a good successor. But still no one tops Solido Snakuu.
I nearly spat and smashed my newly bought PS2 way back in November 2001. I HATED MGS2. All the hype for this piece of crap? I remember in an issue of OPM, Kojima said that he was waiting all his life to include the themes of MGS2 in a game but since he's forced to make more and more MGS games, that statement got buried somewhere.
MGR to me represents what you can do to salvage such a bloated series and just have fun. Raiden has an infinite amount of possibilities and I'm all for that.
So the rumours been debunked, it's just a trailer produced by SCE
Metal Gear Rising 2 teased at the Taipei Game Show? [Update: No] | Metal Gear Informer
That being said who knows with Kojima..
I don't know what passes for a decent physique to you, but I wish I was still in this kind of shape
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MGS2 is a masterpiece, albeit one you have to be reasonably mature and informed to understand - I remember loving it from a gameplay perspective when I was younger, but not enjoying the story as much as the first. Then a few years ago I got bored one summer between university years and dug out my old copy - and was blown away by the subtleties of the story, the metanarrative, the themes and ideas being thrown around. It's also terrifying just how prescient some of Kojima's predictions for the direction society would head in have proven to be.
MGS2 was way ahead of its time. I wonder if one day we'll look back on MGS4 the same way?
Yeah, yeah. "Phantom Pain" wasn't MGS either.
Fool me once.
Yeah, yeah. "Phantom Pain" wasn't MGS either.
Fool me once.
And now look at where that got us. Granted...considering what MGS 2 seemed like at first, it does make sense how all of us acted the way we did. No one really knew about the subtext, or the messages behind it all, along with how ahead of its time some of the gameplay was like. Enemies knowing something was wrong and always checking on things, non-lethal routes, cqc, improved aiming...all since we didn't like Raiden, and how at first the game seemed like MGS1 from a story point, but with Raiden in place of Snake (Who was in the background the whole time)It's funny, because I can't think of a better successor to Solid Snake's legacy than Raiden. He's a complete badass, and he's not even living in Snake's shadow. It got me to thinking, that Kojima must have had some incredible things prepared post MGS 2, but we never even gave him a chance. Instead, we clamored for more Snake, so he followed up with the Solid Snake clone known as Big Boss >__>.
Along with problems with his actual character such as Rose, and I totally hated Raiden at first too. I only really found out in 2008 but I Was like "pfft what, no. get out". There's rumors that Raiden was put in some some girls hated playing MGS1 since they didn't want to play as some "old man" (in MGS4, this is justifable) in MGS1 so if that's true...well, ******* it.In hindsight yes, but his feminine voice and girl body were the big problems with it. But when you take into account where and what his character would become, he's definitely a good successor. But still no one tops Solido Snakuu.
If Kojima and/or his associates are at a convention near any of us, we should all come to that convention and have a long talk with them about our problems MGS4 was just so bad honestly. I still like MGS3 though, it's great to see from Big Boss's perspective for once, to learn a lot about him. It would have been superb as a one off, it really would have been.If by the slim chance, Kojima or one of his associates finds SSF, I hope they register an account so we can have a long chat with them about our grievances .
MGS 4 should have never happened, it really demoralized Snake's character in the worst possible way. The only games I'm really looking forward to now are the Rising ones.
I was probably one of the few that never really hated Raiden even all those years ago. I was too caught up with all the WTF revelations and the Evangelion-esque tech imagery that it barely crossed my mind that he ended up stealing the protagonist chair from Snake.At one point in time, I think all of us hated MGS 2 because we were too young and immature at the time, to really appreciate it. The storyline had so much intrigue, and mystery, it's certainly the most original work in the series.
I only got a problem with the story, the game itself was fine.
Didn't Koji Pro veto some of Kojima's ideas? I wonder what we would of gotten if he didn't come up to any resistance.
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