Metal Gear Solid Collectibles

[Snake Plissken]

Fortune boss fight was disapointing/worse, i rememberd watching footage and trailers before the game out, and it looked so cool, looked like u had to fight her instead of avoiding her

In and of itself she was a good character, but the whole bullets not hitting her completely ruined the point of even fighting her.

 

[WellCQCaboutthat]

Says the guy who loves bullets.............

probably OMW to do something great, again.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Huh?

......

 

[WellCQCaboutthat]

I feel bad, you weren't able to shoot her even though you really wanted to, ya know?

probably OMW to do something great, again.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Well Ocelot busted a cap in dat ***.

 

[WellCQCaboutthat]

he used the baby powder on that *****.

probably OMW to do something great, again.

 

[Jameson Rook]

I feel bad, you weren't able to shoot her even though you really wanted to, ya know?

probably OMW to do something great, again.

It's compelling how Snake Plissken and Solid Snake are both cold hearted tough guys on the outside and it takes awhile to see their compassionate side. That's what I feel is missing from BB right now, he's just not that cold hearted snake after his prequel drags on for so long.

 

[Snake Plissken]

It's compelling how Snake Plissken and Solid Snake are both cold hearted tough guys on the outside and it takes awhile to see their compassionate side. That's what I feel is missing from BB right now, he's just not that cold hearted snake after his prequel drags on for so long.

He's a poor retroactive clone of Solid Snake. The more games about him, the more uninteresting he becomes... at least to some people. He was better as MGS1 artwork and stories from other people.

 

[Jameson Rook]

He's a poor retroactive clone of Solid Snake. The more games about him, the more uninteresting he becomes... at least to some people. He was better as MGS1 artwork and stories from other people.

BB seems to be going trough the motions in the MGS universe as of now. He's a reactive character rather than the proactive leader we were led to believe in the old games. I don't see him having the strong, independent or smart@$$ qualities Solid Snake had in MGS1/2.

Kojima making BB the main protagonist in MGS3 was a masterstroke back then, but now I'm kinda wishing he had left it to the fans to fill in the blanks instead. I'm just saying I miss the times when Snake would say stuff like "Must have been a real threat in the muktuk eating contest". That sounds like what Solid/Plissken would say.

Then again, Solid Snake lost his personality in MGS4 so I guess they're even.

 

[FSLAR]

MGS2 probably had the worst boss fights, easily. I like the Dead Cell music but beyond it, meh. Solidus was good though, both times. That Metal Gear endurance can go screw itself though.

I'm kind of one of the few who has not many problems with Big Boss. I wish we saw more of Solid Snake being a smartass, and less of that in Big Boss. More to separate them, the better as we've pointed out. Both of them went through different things after all. I do agree with Ryan though on MGS4.

 

[Snake Plissken]

BB seems to be going trough the motions in the MGS universe as of now. He's a reactive character rather than the proactive leader we were led to believe in the old games. I don't see him having the strong, independent or smart@$$ qualities Solid Snake had in MGS1/2.

Kojima making BB the main protagonist in MGS3 was a masterstroke back then, but now I'm kinda wishing he had left it to the fans to fill in the blanks instead. I'm just saying I miss the times when Snake would say stuff like "Must have been a real threat in the muktuk eating contest". That sounds like what Solid/Plissken would say.

Then again, Solid Snake lost his personality in MGS4 so I guess they're even.

As usual you bang on sizing up this debacle. Snake had such a great personality. Had too many great one liners that I can't even count He very much had Plissken's personality and sense of humor.

Old Snake didn't even seem like the same character in the least.

 

[Solidus]

I think Big Boss was well suited to being a mysterious legend (and villain) of the series. In fact, I'd respect his character a lot more if I knew less about him, because in every single post MGS 3 game, he was always shown to be depressed and lamenting over his dead mentor. I mean, I get it; he's sad that The Boss died. But, there's no need to drag out the same narrative for the whole damn series.

Kojima has seriously mishandled both Solid Snake and Big Boss. Snake lost his personality in MGS 4 (as you said Ryan), while Big Boss is completely lacking character development; he still cries for The Boss up to the end of MGS 4 .

 

[Solidus]

As usual you bang on sizing up this debacle. Snake had such a great personality. Had too many great one liners that I can't even count He very much had Plissken's personality and sense of humor.

Old Snake didn't even seem like the same character in the least.

Old Snake was like a completely different character. There's nothing memorable about him, other than back pains, and allowing Johnny (the pants shi*ter) to one-up him and take his girl.

 

[Snake Plissken]

I think Big Boss was well suited to being a mysterious legend (and villain) of the series. In fact, I'd respect his character a lot more if I knew less about him, because in every single post MGS 3 game, he was always shown to be depressed and lamenting over his dead mentor. I mean, I get it; he's sad that The Boss died. But, there's no need to drag out the same narrative for the whole damn series.

Kojima has seriously mishandled both Solid Snake and Big Boss. Snake lost his personality in MGS 4 (as you said Ryan), while Big Boss is completely lacking character development; he still cries for The Boss up to the end of MGS 4 .

Character development for Big Boss funny.

MPO, PW and MGSV all seem remakes of each other. The Boss was an integral character to the franchise, but she didn't need to be the main plot device with Big Boss's mood for every sequel.

Old Snake was like a completely different. There's nothing memorable about him, other than back pains, and allowing Johnny (the pants shi*ter) to one-up him and take his girl.

He was just a depressing mummy with a very sad end to his story, nothing uplifting whatsoever.

 

[Dylan]

I love Old Snake. His whole life was taken from him and everyone he ever saved hated his guts for it. He had a hard life and his PTSD riddled self only found solace in cigarettes, only now he couldn't even smoke those without choking. Solid Snake is the best and MGS4 solidified my love for him.

 

[Solidus]

I love Old Snake. His whole life was taken from him and everyone he ever saved hated his guts for it. He had a hard life and his PTSD riddled self only found solace in cigarettes, only now he couldn't even smoke those without choking. Solid Snake is the best and MGS4 solidified my love for him.

Snake was a well-versed linguist of wisdom in MGS 1 and 2, and everything about him was cool and confident. But, then he suddenly became depressed and at the butt of everyone's jokes in MGS 4. I hated the change.

But, my biggest issue with MGS 4 happens to be "Old" Snake. There was no reason for Kojima to kill off Solid Snake so fast, if he was still going to continue the series. Everything about Kojima's handling of Snake has been blatantly premature. He tried to replace him with Raiden in MGS 2 - just one short game after his reintroduction to the gaming world. And then in the next game that features Snake (MGS 4), he suddenly turns into this old man who has practically given up on life.

Big Boss gets five game (with more to come), but Snake grows old and dies after three games, because Kojima has always been trying to get rid of him. So, all things considered, I absolutely refuse to say, "huzzah for Old Snake" .

 

[ZombieRepublican]

MGS2 was so ridiculous with the worst boss characters. Fatman, a fat bald guy on roller blades skating around planting bombs? Fortune, who can deflect bullets and missiles with her good luck (only to find out it was a little gadget)?? Vamp, a homosexual vampire who cannot die and can walk or float on water (only to find out in MGS4 that it was all nanomachines)?? When I was playing at the time, I didn't think much of it, but looking back, wtf was Kojima thinking?

I'm sorry but that all sounds awesome. I didn't like the Vamp fight but MGS2 had amazing boss battles. All of them were fun. MGS3s were worse for the most part but the good were more impactful (The End).

 

[Snake Plissken]

I'm sorry but that all sounds awesome. I didn't like the Vamp fight but MGS2 had amazing boss battles. All of them were fun. MGS3s were worse for the most part but the good were more impactful (The End).

Outside of the End and the Boss, MGS3 did have mediocre boss battles. Especially the Pain.

 

[ZombieRepublican]

A lot of people loved the fury who h I don't get at all. I played the game on hard and all I had to do was stay at one end of the map and shoot him in the face over and over

 

[Henry Morgan*]

I think Big Boss was well suited to being a mysterious legend (and villain) of the series. In fact, I'd respect his character a lot more if I knew less about him, because in every single post MGS 3 game, he was always shown to be depressed and lamenting over his dead mentor. I mean, I get it; he's sad that The Boss died. But, there's no need to drag out the same narrative for the whole damn series.

Kojima has seriously mishandled both Solid Snake and Big Boss. Snake lost his personality in MGS 4 (as you said Ryan), while Big Boss is completely lacking character development; he still cries for The Boss up to the end of MGS 4 .

If Big Boss is lacking character development then Solid Snake is like a white piece of paper... Big Boss came in the middle of the series with a game that is about camp and nostalgia, he smiles a laughs he exhibits a variety of human emotions that the old one doesn't and I like that, they are different. He is full of dramatic irony, its stronger characterization in general IMHO

MGS4 ruined many things for me, but Solid Snake was the biggest problem. And Zero, I don't want that guy to be a big deal, but oh well...

A lot of people loved the fury who h I don't get at all. I played the game on hard and all I had to do was stay at one end of the map and shoot him in the face over and over

It was kind of annoying yeah, I don't remember to be bored or have a bat time, ever while playing MGS3, MGS2 is really a failure if we compare it to MGS3 wich is my favourite by far, because its like the first one but reimagined in a different time and place and yet it felt original and new

And Big Boss was a great character in that game, but the Boss made that game awesome, every boss fight was good or at least it wasn't that bad

It's compelling how Snake Plissken and Solid Snake are both cold hearted tough guys on the outside and it takes awhile to see their compassionate side. That's what I feel is missing from BB right now, he's just not that cold hearted snake after his prequel drags on for so long.

And yet he seems willing to kill enslaved people in MGSV, I hope he does he need to start turning into the guy we all heard about