IronLungs31
Super Freak
...I'm pretty sure that you're not alone in this type of thinking. I'll take our chances being that we are at home tonight...
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...I'm pretty sure that you're not alone in this type of thinking. I'll take our chances being that we are at home tonight...
IronLungs31
Super Freak
...Can't even believe that you made a Kobe & Melo comparison...
Doesn't even warrant a meaningful response.
IronLungs31
Super Freak
I'm a Heat fans all the way until the finals...1000 reward points is riding on me being a fan until then...
Shatterer of Dreams
Super Freak
well to be fair Kobe was a selfish player but so was Jordan. What do the two of them have in common? Phil. You need a great coach that can tear down some of that ego and teach them that they will not win anything by themselves. Now Melo played for a great coach but obviously didn't want to listen.
denger4000
Super Freak
So you'll just post a bunch of smileys? I'm saying they are both selfish. Melo is a great player and so is Kobe. Stop acting like Kobe Rapist, I mean Bryant is some god while Melo is lucky to be in an NBA team. Kobe has always had better supporting players then Melo. To be honest I'm not fans of either one.
Shatterer of Dreams
Super Freak
Ugh, a rapist joke.......
Kobe's first run was different as he was second fiddle and wasnt the main component on that championship team, Shaq was. So he deferred a lot in those early years to his team.
His second championship run was after he he put ego aside and became much more trusting of his teammates. He got the whole, Im gonna be a "selfish Kobe" out of his system. That was probably due to two big factors. Welcoming Phil back once he saw he couldnt win his way (selfish Kobe) and acquiring Pau. Those two factors lead to him become much more unselfish.
First, Spurs havent choked. Second, they wont choke. All the big guns are coming back for the stretch run.There's no way they give up 3.5 with the big guns playing.
Third, lets face it, any team would "choke" as you put it, not having four starters. If they were full strength and losing I would be VERY worried. But theyre not, so Im not.
denger4000
Super Freak
Exactly
IronLungs31
Super Freak
Whoa bro', whoa you are TRIPPIN'. Don't even understand what you mean by saying something like that nor will I ask you to explain, but the comment says enough.
IronLungs31
Super Freak
I will have to agree with this statement whole heartedly. He was second fiddle for that first run, but that man won a lot of games for us during that run being the #1 fiddle in the crunch time. Shaq was the first option for the first 3 or 3 1/2 qtr., but the 4th was always and have been Kobe time no matter what fiddle he was playing.
I just wonder how healthy Timmy D will be come that time when games are being played every other day...
That's the same problem they ran into a few years ago, and I don't even you trust that T. Parker can shoulder a whole team during a playoff push.
denger4000
Super Freak
A woman said Kobe Raped her...did you not hear about this?
..and showed up for the investgation w/ another mans sperm in her underwerar you moron.. did you hear about this?..
I forgot that every man accused of a crime is actually guilty.. Especially when the guy has lots of money for the other to gain from.. GUILTY!!!
Save it turd boy...
Save it turd boy...
after the spurs lose tonight and the lakers win.. it will be a 2 1/2 game lead.. Lakers play the spurs, ofcourse we'll win so make that 1 1/2.. Not that the Lakers need it but I think they have a good chance of taking the Pacific. ARRRRGGG THE PRESSURE!!! *CHOKE* *giggles*
IronLungs31
Super Freak
Ok bro, it's your world and I still don't see the need for that comment. Has nothing to do with Kobe the basketball player or the Lakers.
Super Freak!!! Looking for a pay day...
ProgMatinee
circlesendwheretheybegin
I don't know if there is anything wrong with "sefish". The difference between Kobe, Jordan, etc and a guy like Melo isn't selfishness, its leadership. I don't think Melo cares if he's the best player on the court, the second best or whatever. He doesn't tell teammates to get better. He doesn't demand perfection. This doesn't make him evil or a bad player, just don't look for Melo to do anything besides do what we already know he can do. He is a great player, but offers no intangibles at all. Then again when players leave school early before they learn the difference between talent and hard work, and get paid max dollars for their skill and potential instead of for their leadership and ethic, what else do you expect?
NosferatuBill36
Super Freak
There are so many contradicting statements in this thread, it actually made my head hurt.
No offense.
ProgMatinee
circlesendwheretheybegin
like what? maybe its my writing. otherwise, it seems you justsaying that because you don't like what you heard.
point I'm making is theres a difference between selfishness and leadership. if you have both as Kobe and Jordan had, then you become an all time great and no one cares how selfish you were.
point I'm making is theres a difference between selfishness and leadership. if you have both as Kobe and Jordan had, then you become an all time great and no one cares how selfish you were.
NosferatuBill36
Super Freak
No, no. I'm quite positive you contradicting yourself in your statements. When I'm home(and not on a cell) I'll explain.
No big deal. But kinda hard to take you seriously when you talk about players lacking leadership abilities(i.e. Melo) for leaving COLLEGE early, yet praise Kobe(who made the jump straight from high school).
Perhaps you could clarify a bit more...
ProgMatinee
circlesendwheretheybegin
Fair enough about Kobe, though he's learned his leadership over the years. 10 years ago would he have been calling guys like Pao out? Maybe Melo will learn it, maybe not. I would say probably not. I don't remember seeing Melo ever confront JR Smith for stupid play while he was here in Denver.
Leadership, work ethic, etc is pretty much gone these days with only a few exceptions. The trend of players jumping to teams trying to stack talent instead of taking on the challenges supports that.
Leadership, work ethic, etc is pretty much gone these days with only a few exceptions. The trend of players jumping to teams trying to stack talent instead of taking on the challenges supports that.
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