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Why a Super Young team like The thunder has never won it all. Everyone these days is obsessed with youth but having an entire team full of under 25 year olds isn't a good thing. the series isn't over yet but we'll see. Also I find funny that people here think it's just me who has these theories on the refs, meanwhile every other message board I go to that has an NBA sections generally accepts these things.

It is just you, fouls are fouls man, they have missed calls on both sides

Bottom line is LBJ is to big to guard and will always get fouled

Is it the refs fault the Thunder missed free throws in Game 3??? Some of you are justing reaching for excuses. I also love the whole bought a championship, how did Boston get all those guys?? Malone and Payton just showed up in LA?? How did Shaq get there?? So what LBJ joined an ideal scenario, no one here would? Please

I dont even care for the Heat, but will enjoying watching them win, just to see teh excuses line up in here
 
OKC won 4 straight against the Spurs. Stranger things have happened.

If any team can overcome a 3:1 deficit, it's probably OKC. But the odds are stacked against them and it's going to be be hard to overcome the momentum Miami have built up.
 
lol @ ignorant fans who think people are gonna stfu about a champion. You guys must have been born yesterday. EVERY CHAMPION, Lakers, Yankees, Steelers, Patriots, Spurs etc have haters whether they win OR lose. Here's a thought, why don't you put the haters on ignore?

I mean, if you can't take people hating on your team, I don't know what to say, you're just too damn sensitive and maybe shouldn't be in a sports thread, ya think? Not everyone is gonna buy in to headband's hype and bow down to your team. LeBron has always been and will always be a fraud no matter how try and justify it. People who aren't naive can see through his BS. Put your big boy pants on take it like a man LIKE EVERYONE ELSE HERE HAS :lol
 
By the way, if you think I'm the only hater out there, here is an article that was just published today on CBC hours after my earlier sentiment how LeBron will still be hated, if not more so post-championship. It goes on say how the writer polled his followers on Twitter and he asked: If you dislike LeBron, would winning a title change your opinion? Out of the 404 people who voted, 82 percent said no.

https://www.cnbc.com/id/47892143

Fans: LeBron’s Image Won’t Be Repaired With A Title

Following “The Decision,” where LeBron James declared he’d take his talents from Cleveland to Miami, he went from being hero to a villain in the eyes of many.

People who once rooted for his greatness started cheering for his downfall. They clapped at his inability to make the big shots at the end and reveled in his disappointment of losing to the Mavericks in last year’s NBA Finals.

With the Heat up 3 games to 1, and LeBron on the cusp of hoisting the Larry O’Brien Trophy for the first time in his nine-year NBA career, the question is, does finally winning the big one change how people think of the NBA’s “King.”

The answer seems to be a resounding no, and it’s not just coming from spurned Cavaliers fans.

I asked this question to my Twitter followers: If you dislike LeBron, would winning a title change your opinion? Out of the 404 people who voted, 82 percent said no, with 4.4 percent saying yes, while the other 13.6 percent said it depends on how he celebrates. Does he go down on one knee and get emotional or does he play the “me against the world” card?

“Winning helps, but you have to be perceived in a way that you’ve convinced people you’re different than what caused the perception to happen and that’s the hurdle that he is challenged with,” said Henry Schafer, executive vice president of Marketing Evaluations, which conducts the Q Scores.

Schafer said that among sports fans age 13 and older who know of LeBron, 19 percent consider him one of their favorite personalities, but 27 percent of those that know him rank him among their least favorite personalities.

“The negative side is where he’s hurting,” Schafer said. “His negative score is almost twice the average.”

On Twitter, Schafer’s sentiment was echoed.

Brad (@Texas_Cyn) said LeBron winning a title wouldn’t change his negative opinion of him because he came off as “universally arrogant.” “It was obvious in last year’s Finals press conference how much better he thinks he is than everyone,” he tweeted.
Jermaine (@jermaine611) tweeted, “He can win five titles and I wouldn’t like him. Dances, posing and entitlement has turned me off.”
Andrew (@AndrewGreth) said LeBron set himself up for more lofty goals that compromises how people should think about his first title.
“He said he would win not 4, not 5, not 6,” Greth tweeted. “so one (title) is not backing up bravado.”

In a separate Twitter poll taken at the start of the NBA Finals, I asked my followers what endorser would most get you to buy a product? I gave them Kevin Durant, LeBron James and Dwyane Wade as choices. Durant got 71.4 percent of the vote, LeBron got 21.3 percent and Wade finished last with 7.3 percent of the vote.

While LeBron is known by 85 percent of the population, Kevin Durant is known by 61 percent of the population, according to the Q Scores. But 23 percent of those that know him call him their favorite athlete, while only 9 percent list him as one of their least favorite athletes.
 
It is just you, fouls are fouls man, they have missed calls on both sides

Bottom line is LBJ is to big to guard and will always get fouled

Is it the refs fault the Thunder missed free throws in Game 3??? Some of you are justing reaching for excuses. I also love the whole bought a championship, how did Boston get all those guys?? Malone and Payton just showed up in LA?? How did Shaq get there?? So what LBJ joined an ideal scenario, no one here would? Please

I dont even care for the Heat, but will enjoying watching them win, just to see teh excuses line up in here

I wasn't even talking about the heat/thunder series, I actually agree, the Heat are owning the thunder at the moment.
 
Why a Super Young team like The thunder has never won it all. Everyone these days is obsessed with youth but having an entire team full of under 25 year olds isn't a good thing. the series isn't over yet but we'll see. Also I find funny that people here think it's just me who has these theories on the refs, meanwhile every other message board I go to that has an NBA sections generally accepts these things.

Really good article on how FACTUALLY the refs are favoring the Heat in these Finals. I wish someone would have done something like this on the Spurs/OKC match up but, some good food for thought here via the bleacher report...
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...are-the-refs-favoring-miami?search_query=refs favoring miami

2012 NBA Finals: Breaking Down the Officiating, Are the Refs Favoring Miami?
The world's hatred for LeBron James and the Miami Heat has led many fans to blame the refs for all of their big wins. I'm obviously guilty of this, and while sometimes it's wrong, lately, it seems like the Heat are getting more and more preferential treatment.

So far in the series, the Heat are shooting 2.5 more free throws per game than the Thunder, not a massive disparity. It seems a bit odd that Miami would have the edge, considering Oklahoma City shot an average of 1.1 more free throws per game during the regular season, but that is understandable.

What seems fishy is where those fouls are being called.

Let's start with Kevin Durant. By now, you've all seen the infamous non-call on LeBron on Durant's game tying attempt. The general consensus is that it was a foul. If you need video evidence, check out this video. Nobody has posted a very clear angle on the foul, but you can see contact if you pause it at around the 26-27-second mark.

Then there are the fouls being called on Durant. He isn't a particularly physical defender, and he's very disciplined on offense, so it makes sense that during the regular season he only average 2 personal fouls per game.

In the finals, that number has shot up to 3.75.
He spent good portions of Games 2 and 3 on the bench in foul trouble. This doesn't make any sense. While he has spent some time guarding LeBron, Durant has guarded physical players before and his numbers don't change so dramatically.

This isn't a trend either. He averaged 2.08 fouls per game in the three preceding rounds of the playoffs. He has never averaged more than 2.09 fouls per game over the course of a season and had reached five fouls only twice in his last 23 games before having it happen in back-to-back finals games.

You can't even argue that defending LeBron James is causing these extra fouls. In nine head to head match ups before these finals, Durant actually only averaged 1.8 fouls per game, less than his career average of 1.89.

In other words, there is no statistical reason that Kevin Durant is getting called for so many fouls. It's a complete statistical anomaly.

Russell Westbrook is getting similarly odd treatment on the other end. So far in the series, he is averaging 5.25 free throw attempts per game, less than his season average of 6.3.

That in itself is not a massive disparity, but consider his total shot attempts. In the regular season, he averaged 19.2 field goal attempts per game, but in the finals that number has jumped to 25.

His total shot attempts have jumped by almost 25 percent, but his free throw attempts have dropped by nearly 17 percent. Doesn't that seem odd?

Let's examine Westbrook's excellent Game 4 performance. Despite taking 32 shots from the field, Westbrook only shot a grand total of three free throws. Westbrook wasn't just shooting jumpers; according to his shot chart, 15 of his 32 attempts were within 10 feet of the basket. He was driving to the hoop at a pretty normal rate.

The only similar performance that I can think of to judge this against—in terms of shot attempts—is Dwyane Wade in the 2006 Finals. Wade took no less than 19 shots in each game, yet despite never topping Westbrook's 32, he never shot less than 10 free throws in any single game. In Game 5, he took 28 field goals and 25 free throws.

For the series, Wade averaged 23.6 field goal attempts per game and 16.2 free throw attempts per game. Neither are close to Westbrook's 32 and three. Considering the similarity between the two players, it seems odd that Wade wouldn't have one game in that series similar to Westbrook's Game 4.

One argument people have made as to why the Thunder aren't drawing as many fouls is that the Heat are a very disciplined defensive team. That is just not true. They were seventeenth in the league this season in personal fouls. That means they're essentially middle of the pack.

There are some smaller oddities in the officiating we need to look at as well. Both LeBron and Wade are averaging at least a full free throw per game more in the finals than they did in the regular season (LeBron is up from 8.1 to 9.75; Wade is up from 6.1 to 7.75). If Wade is injured, as many fans claim, then his free throw attempts should be down, as he would be driving less.

This is the case for Shane Battier, who is up from .6 attempts per game to 1.75. The only Heat regular to see a significant drop in their free throw attempts is Chris Bosh, but that can be explained by his overall drop in shot attempts due to recovery from injury.

The Thunder are not blameless for being behind in this series. They've blown three winnable games by turning the ball over and making bad decisions.

However, stats don't lie. Whether you think the league is actually trying to affect the outcome of the series or you simply believe the refs are doing a horrible job is up to you, but what the numbers show is that this series has not been officiated equally. The Heat have taken advantage of that fact, and considering how close these games have been, it may have changed the outcome of the series.
 
I have no doubt the refs probably are probably favoring the Heat, just like thunder were favored vs the Spurs. i'm just not complaining as much because I'd rather have the Thunder win but I'm not a fan of either team so I don't really care as much
 
Really good article on how FACTUALLY the refs are favoring the Heat in these Finals. I wish someone would have done something like this on the Spurs/OKC match up but, some good food for thought here via the bleacher report...
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...are-the-refs-favoring-miami?search_query=refs favoring miami

You do know that bleacherreport is a blog site with bias bloggers and NOT a reputable news site?

Honestly, why would the NBA benefit from having this series (or any series) end early?! More games is more revenue and more sold advertising. Its beyond counterproductive to "fix" it so that the heat win.

And the fact is that becuz the thunder are a jump shooting team, and Miami is a paint team that there would be obvious free throw disparity. OKCs style of play (jump shooting, high turnover, avg defense, no post scoring) plays perfectly into miamis style.
 
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You do know that bleacherreport is a blog site with bias bloggers and NOT a reputable news site?
Honestly, why would the NBA benefit from having this series (or any series) end early?! More games is more revenue and more sold advertising. Its beyond counterproductive to "fix" it so that the heat win.

And the fact is that becuz the thunder are a jump shooting team, and Miami is a paint team that there would be obvious free throw disparity. OKCs style of play (jump shooting, high turnover, avg defense, no post scoring) plays perfectly into miamis style.

Correct, but do you understand that he is blogging about facts? He's not pulling stats out of his behind, the numbers he he's writing about are factual. I mean if you want to blog or can find a different blogger that can retrieve stats that say otherwise, I'm all ears. But for now it's CLEAR that there have been more calls given to Miami with the most agregious being the ridculous game 2 no-call.
 
home court calls have been a staple in the league for decades.. heat def had more go their way, yes some pretty questionable.. thats life i guess

hoping okc can bring it back home for some home cooking
 
Correct, but do you understand that he is blogging about facts? He's not pulling stats out of his behind, the numbers he he's writing about are factual. I mean if you want to blog or can find a different blogger that can retrieve stats that say otherwise, I'm all ears. But for now it's CLEAR that there have been more calls given to Miami with the most agregious being the ridculous game 2 no-call.


From sports illustrated...


MIAMI -- LeBron James and the Heat are going to win the NBA championship, but wait! This is not all bad. Really.
Seven reasons why you should appreciate this impending Heat title, even if you don't like it:
1. Michael Jordan was not perfect.
Jordan was the best player ever, and I understand why we measure LeBron against Jordan. I do it, too. But how come we only measure everything LeBron does against Jordan's best?
Do you realize that in Game 6 of the 1993 Eastern Conference Finals, Jordan shot 8 for 24? Or that in the 1996 Finals, he shot 41.5 percent from the field, and in the 1998 Finals, he shot 42.7 percent from the field?
In Jordan's era, newspapers and magazines were the primary source of information, and those had barriers to entry for writers. Now anybody can write, tweet or post anything to Facebook. This is a wonderful development in many ways -- so many more people have an opportunity to express themselves. But sometimes the least reasonable opinions flood the landscape. And so we crush James for the ghastly crime of playing a mediocre game, and we forget that this is what humans do.
Jordan was unbelievable. He was usually great. But he was not perfect.
And pre-emptively: If the Heat lose Game 5, please, please, PLEASE, in the name of intellectual honesty, do NOT say "MJ would have finished them off! He had the killer instinct that LeBron will never have."
That would be utter nonsense. In the 1993 Finals, Jordan's Bulls took a 3-1 series lead on Phoenix, lost Game 5 at home and needed a John Paxson three-pointer at the end to win Game 6 by a point. In the 1996 Finals, the 72-win Bulls took a 3-0 lead over Seattle, got blown out on the road in Game 4, lost Game 5 by 11 points, then came home and won Game 6. And in the 1998 Finals, Jordan's Bulls took a 3-1 series lead over Utah, lost Game 5 at home and then wrapped it up with the famous Jordan shot over Bryon Russell in Utah.
Yes, in three of Jordan's six championship runs, his team blew a chance to win clinching games -- twice at home. This happens, even to the best players in history. It is not a character flaw.
2. This Heat team overachieved.
That sounds preposterous. Overachieve? LeBron said they'd win eight titles!
But Miami has an undersized lineup (6-foot-2, 6-4, 6-8, 6-8, 6-11) and lacks depth. The Heat also overcame injuries to at least two of their stars (James and Chris Bosh) and possibly a third (if Dwyane Wade is hurt).
This is a very good team that is playing great because of unselfish play and tenacious, trapping defense. The Heat offense has stagnated a lot in the last two years because of the odd roster configuration and because James and Wade are used to dominating the ball. They have both adjusted, especially James, and at times in this series the Heat offense has almost reached the level of art. The ball movement has been beautiful.
3. We are witnessing the greatest achievement in the history of basketball.
By which I mean: Shane Battier played for Duke AND the Heat ... and people still like him!
You would too, if you met him. The guy is brilliant without being arrogant about it, engaging but not a self-promoter. Battier is such a good talker that before the Finals end, I plan to ask him about a college football playoff, Michael Phelps, Usain Bolt, the World Series and the presidential election, so I don't have to interview anybody else for the rest of 2012.
Wednesday, I asked him if he will view his career differently if he wins a title. He said no. I loved his reasoning.
"It's not about the results," Battier said. "It's about the process. If you give yourself a chance and pour your heart and soul into preparation and the games, and you let it fly, you can live with the results ...
"I've played 10 years and I've made the playoffs most years. I'm proud of every one of those playoff teams, because I thought I helped maximize what that team was able to accomplish. That's all you can ask for. In free agency, I had a chance to come to a team whose maximum level had a chance to be at the top of the mountain. At this point, that really excited me."
4. This is not about officiating.
If I hear one more person complain that officials are deciding this series, I'm going to scream so loud that somebody will give me my own TV show.
Sure, Oklahoma City has been on the bad end of some calls. But so has Miami. In Game 4, Nick Collison got away with a blatant goaltend, and one of Kevin Durant's fouls went to a teammate. Miami is leading 3-1 because the Heat have made the plays at crucial times and played smarter.
For the series, Miami has been whistled for 77 fouls and Oklahoma City has been whistled for 83. That is an admittedly rudimentary way of analyzing the officiating, but it's better than anecdotal complaints. And by the way, in the regular season, Oklahoma City committed 0.46 more fouls per game than its opponents, while the Heat committed 1.13 fewer. So the 1.5-foul per game disparity is in line with how these teams played all year.
Also, in last year's Finals, Miami was called for 10 more fouls than Dallas. Was that a conspiracy because the league loves Mark Cuban so much?
5. April 6, 1992, at approximately 10:30 p.m.
The date and time probably mean nothing to you. So why do I bring them up? At that moment, five University of Michigan freshmen sat in their locker room in the Metrodome in Minneapolis. They led Duke 31-30. The group included Chris Webber, Juwan Howard and Jalen Rose -- all future lottery picks who would combine to start almost 2,300 NBA games and make more than $400 million in salaries.
If you had told those freshmen, that 20 years later, they would not have won a single NCAA, NBA or Big Ten title, they would have laughed. But here they are. Howard has a chance to win the group's first ring, as an NBA benchwarmer.
"I was very concerned that at the end of my career, would I ever get an opportunity to win a title?" Howard said. "And I haven't yet. I'm still waiting, still striving to win one."
The point? Winning championships is really, really hard. And that's why championships should be respected. If we don't respect championships, why are we watching?
6. This is the end.
You will never have to hear pundits make the specious argument that LeBron James is not man enough to win a title again. They will replace this with other specious arguments. You are welcome.
7. This is not the end.
The NBA is scheduled play games again next season, which means we get more Heat, more Thunder, more Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook, and maybe a healthy Chicago Bulls team that would have had a chance to beat Miami AND Oklahoma City. With the title pressure off, will James take his game to unprecedented heights? Or will he worry more about being a league power broker than an all-time great? Will Wade's body hold up? Will Durant average 35 points a game?
Good news, folks: You can root against the Heat again next year, all you want. One title doesn't change that.
From SI.com


Read more: https://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2...ron-james-nba-finals/index.html#ixzz1yRY1ZXIu
 
From sports illustrated...



4. This is not about officiating.
If I hear one more person complain that officials are deciding this series, I'm going to scream so loud that somebody will give me my own TV show.
Sure, Oklahoma City has been on the bad end of some calls. But so has Miami. In Game 4, Nick Collison got away with a blatant goaltend, and one of Kevin Durant's fouls went to a teammate. Miami is leading 3-1 because the Heat have made the plays at crucial times and played smarter.
For the series, Miami has been whistled for 77 fouls and Oklahoma City has been whistled for 83. That is an admittedly rudimentary way of analyzing the officiating, but it's better than anecdotal complaints. And by the way, in the regular season, Oklahoma City committed 0.46 more fouls per game than its opponents, while the Heat committed 1.13 fewer. So the 1.5-foul per game disparity is in line with how these teams played all year.
Also, in last year's Finals, Miami was called for 10 more fouls than Dallas. Was that a conspiracy because the league loves Mark Cuban so much?
at? Will Wade's body hold up? Will Durant average 35 points a game?
Good news, folks: You can root against the Heat again next year, all you want. One title doesn't change that.

It's a nice attempt but it doesn't address the fact that it's not how many calls there are but WHO is being called for what which is what my article intelligently pointed out. You can give a relatively even number of fouls to both teams but if the stars of Team A (OKC) are given a disproportionate amount fouls than the stars of Team B (Miami) then that is going to adversely affect the series. Who cares if the scubs are being called for fouls?

I'll break it down for you like this, for the entire series, games 1-4, here are how many fouls have been called for each team's big 3:

LeBron 8 fouls
Wade 11 fouls
Bosh 8 fouls
total = 27
No Heat big 3 has had any 5 foul games

Westbrook 9 fouls
Durant 15 fouls (including two 5 foul games this series when he had only three 5-foul games the entire regular season)
Harden 16 fouls (including one 5 foul game and again only only three 5-foul games the entire regular season)
total = 39

And remember, it's not just how many fouls have been called but when they are called. If a player gets too many fouls early, they have to sit. And they all play similar games (outside-in games) so it's not like OKC's big 3 are bangers in the paint so they are naturally going to be called for more fouls.

And it's also when fouls are conveniently NOT being called. Because if you don't think this is foul (look especially where LeBron's left hand is) which could have made the series 2-2 at this point, I don't know what to tell you...

nofoul.jpg
 
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It's a nice attempt but it doesn't address the fact that it's not how many calls there are but WHO is being called for what which is what my article intelligently pointed out. You can give a relatively even number of fouls to both teams but if the stars of Team A (OKC) are given a disproportionate amount fouls than the stars of Team B (Miami) then that is going to adversely affect the series. Who cares if the scubs are being called for fouls?

I'll break it down for you like this, for the entire series, games 1-4, here are how many fouls have been called for each team's big 3:

LeBron 8 fouls
Wade 11 fouls
Bosh 8 fouls
total = 27
No Heat big 3 has had any 5 foul games

Westbrook 9 fouls
Durant 15 fouls (including two 5 foul games this series when he had only three 5-foul games the entire regular season)
Harden 16 fouls (including one 5 foul game and again only only three 5-foul games the entire regular season)
total = 39

And remember, it's not just how many fouls have been called but when they are called. If a player gets too many fouls early, they have to sit. And they all play similar games (outside-in games) so it's not like OKC's big 3 are bangers in the paint so they are naturally going to be called for more fouls.

And it's also when fouls are conveniently NOT being called. Because if you don't think this is foul (look especially where LeBron's left hand is) which could have made the series 2-2 at this point, I don't know what to tell you...

nofoul.jpg


You're mistake is to assume that both teams stars are on equal footing...

Lebron > Durant. FACT
Bosh > Harden FACT

I'll give you that wade and Westbrook (who was epic in gm 4 but a goat in gm 3) are a wash. Even if Westbrook is better and "wins" that matchup the heat still have the advantage.
 
It's a nice attempt but it doesn't address the fact that it's not how many calls there are but WHO is being called for what which is what my article intelligently pointed out. You can give a relatively even number of fouls to both teams but if the stars of Team A (OKC) are given a disproportionate amount fouls than the stars of Team B (Miami) then that is going to adversely affect the series. Who cares if the scubs are being called for fouls?

I'll break it down for you like this, for the entire series, games 1-4, here are how many fouls have been called for each team's big 3:

LeBron 8 fouls
Wade 11 fouls
Bosh 8 fouls
total = 27
No Heat big 3 has had any 5 foul games

Westbrook 9 fouls
Durant 15 fouls (including two 5 foul games this series when he had only three 5-foul games the entire regular season)
Harden 16 fouls (including one 5 foul game and again only only three 5-foul games the entire regular season)
total = 39

And remember, it's not just how many fouls have been called but when they are called. If a player gets too many fouls early, they have to sit. And they all play similar games (outside-in games) so it's not like OKC's big 3 are bangers in the paint so they are naturally going to be called for more fouls.

And it's also when fouls are conveniently NOT being called. Because if you don't think this is foul (look especially where LeBron's left hand is) which could have made the series 2-2 at this point, I don't know what to tell you...

nofoul.jpg


Let the excuses begin! :rock
 
It's a nice attempt but it doesn't address the fact that it's not how many calls there are but WHO is being called for what which is what my article intelligently pointed out. You can give a relatively even number of fouls to both teams but if the stars of Team A (OKC) are given a disproportionate amount fouls than the stars of Team B (Miami) then that is going to adversely affect the series. Who cares if the scubs are being called for fouls?

I'll break it down for you like this, for the entire series, games 1-4, here are how many fouls have been called for each team's big 3:

LeBron 8 fouls
Wade 11 fouls
Bosh 8 fouls
total = 27
No Heat big 3 has had any 5 foul games

Westbrook 9 fouls
Durant 15 fouls (including two 5 foul games this series when he had only three 5-foul games the entire regular season)
Harden 16 fouls (including one 5 foul game and again only only three 5-foul games the entire regular season)
total = 39

And remember, it's not just how many fouls have been called but when they are called. If a player gets too many fouls early, they have to sit. And they all play similar games (outside-in games) so it's not like OKC's big 3 are bangers in the paint so they are naturally going to be called for more fouls.

And it's also when fouls are conveniently NOT being called. Because if you don't think this is foul (look especially where LeBron's left hand is) which could have made the series 2-2 at this point, I don't know what to tell you...

nofoul.jpg


Dude, even you know those facts are slewed for teh sake of the argument. Yes that was a foul that was missed, but lets throw together the youtube shots of the fouls Durant get called for. They are fouls, the Thunder are forced to play a stronger bigger team and commit more fouls. Along with the size discrepancy= more jumps shots = more fouls

The true stats against your original article, would be FT per game, against percent of lay ups to jump shots. IF those numbers were very comparable to the numbers in the final then the argument would be valid.
 
Dude, even you know those facts are slewed for teh sake of the argument. Yes that was a foul that was missed, but lets throw together the youtube shots of the fouls Durant get called for. They are fouls, the Thunder are forced to play a stronger bigger team and commit more fouls. Along with the size discrepancy= more jumps shots = more fouls

The true stats against your original article, would be FT per game, against percent of lay ups to jump shots. IF those numbers were very comparable to the numbers in the final then the argument would be valid.

You can't bother to debate irrational people. :lol
 
lol @ refs calling D Fish flagrant foul. I give up. The NBA has gotten ridiculous. Congrats I guess to LeBron, the guy that had to coattail his way to a championship in his prime. Sadly most NBA players wait until the end of their career, but not LeBron. He'll always have that * next to him with fans for the rest of his life :lol
 
Dude, even you know those facts are slewed for teh sake of the argument. Yes that was a foul that was missed, but lets throw together the youtube shots of the fouls Durant get called for. They are fouls, the Thunder are forced to play a stronger bigger team and commit more fouls. Along with the size discrepancy= more jumps shots = more fouls

The true stats against your original article, would be FT per game, against percent of lay ups to jump shots. IF those numbers were very comparable to the numbers in the final then the argument would be valid.

lol so go ahead and find that Youtube video and put together your FT per game, against percent of lay ups to jump shots ratio that supports your theory. I dare you to find that info that proves me wrong. I'll be waiting with baited breath...
 
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