NECA: Predator Movie Franchise Figures

[MaulFan]

Exactly, am I willing to shell out up to $20 more for an 18" Predator, sure, but I'm also in a market of Sideshow and Cinemaquette pieces where $70 for a decent 18" Predator is a bargain, but I don't consider myself or anyone here to be a large percentage of NECA's customer base, I'd wager 50% at the most. For a lot of their market, $50 is probably pushing it for one thing. When I first got into McFarlane type figures, those were a pretty big deal, the most I could and did spend on a single item was like $50 for Gentle Giant mini busts, as I got older and worked more and increased in income I came to buy other things, but NECA's a high end collector startup product, it's a great transition from Hasbro kids toys to adult companies like Hot Toys and Sideshow and Bowen and Gentle Giant.

 

[The Rider]

Thank God, I thought I was the only one who likes using "Fook" .

@The Rider: Someone went to business school... Perhaps if you wish to see NECA have a monopoly power, that's something you should take up with management and not the creative department?

In any case, you say "If the prices are slightly higher and people do not buy it, they [NECA] have nothing."
Well, adding those features you want will increase those prices. And not just slightly. So in the end, we agree that adding such things can have an impact.
True, NECA is the only one producing such figures in this price range now, but if they change the price range, their success is lowered.

Have you any contacts with the management?
Where could I discuss it?

Now the is all just a theory.
For me and for you.
We se it when neva make it.
As I said.
The 7" figures remain the same.

Yes, it is essentially only the 18" figures.
What's it all for a good quality.
That depends on where Neca can produce the things.
The T2 line had no such good quality (bad eye painting by the Figures, Arnold looks like little cartoony).

And it's about the functions.

A real netting.
This indeed is planning Tankman itself.

3 interchangeable heads.
Why not, who had 12" Leonidas 2 Heads. How to do it because otherwise, in 18" no one buys 3 versions.

The Light-Up fuction.
Ists not a Must-Have, but would be cool.
But certain characters have a Light-up Feature.

And the opening Fuction on the Control Panel on the arm.
This would be no problem.
Or do you mean?
The is a very simple feature, you must not even sculpter much new, it's really just a painting operation.

Neca has done a huge Balrog.
This has also sold well.
A 18" Predator must not be so expensive, but it shows that there are such things from Neca and has sold well.

 

[The Rider]

Sabres is far from uncritical, get into any discussion of products based on the Alien. Sabres is a very passionate fan that brings to the table a lot of reference and insight into the accurracies of things.

And Sabres, I mean that as a good thing.

Why then was ver offensive, just because I have the desire of the Elder Predator as Movie accurate is like the original Predator.
This includes soas little like which hand is the weapon.
The problem is indeed the one hand is closed, but it would not matter and you could put the machete in his hand wants to be.

 

[MaulFan]

A real netting.
This indeed is planning Tankman itself.

3 interchangeable heads.
Why not, who had 12" Leonidas 2 Heads. How to do it because otherwise, in 18" no one buys 3 versions.

The Light-Up fuction.
Ists not a Must-Have, but would be cool.
But certain characters have a Light-up Feature.

And the opening Fuction on the Control Panel on the arm.
This would be no problem.

-Real netting on an 18" figure would likely be more because it's easier than sculpting and hand painting netting like the small figures, a rare moment where something better for the figure could also be cheaper.

-3 heads could be too costly overall with 3 molds, we'd probably get 2 in the end, masked and unmasked roaring. Depending on how they do the dreads and things, these figures could cost a lot for all the molds and construction it takes to do them compared to a more basic design like Michael Myers.

-Electronics comes down to how costly it would be to add in. They've done them before, T2 light up eye, but doesn't mean to do it on the Predator would be cost feasible and deemed a worthwhile expense.

-Working control panel on the gauntlet would likely be deemed not worth the extra costs. I believe the 12" sculpts Tankmans produced do not feature this ability so to add it, means now sculpting the interior designs on the cover an the gauntlet side and added bits to allow the opening and closing functions.

These may not seem like that big of a deal, but for the market NECA caters too, I'm sure a lot of it is deemed unnecessary costs. They'd likely decide they'll sell more 18" figures without those features at $50 than they would with them and costing $70 or more.

 

[CelticPredator]

The reason they dont make a lot of 18 inch figures is because the stores DONT HAVE ENOUGH ROOM. Simple as that.

 

[The Rider]

I understand your point. So you're asking, why not shell out a bit more money to get a nicer 18" Pred?

Well, I'd be happy to. A lot of us would be. But NECA, being mainstream, wants consistency. Their usual prices and amounts of features for the different sizes must remain consistent.
Their usual 18" lineup may have a sound chip and maybe lights, for $35-$40.
They're not going to change that system.

@Sabres: I'M SO JEALOUS OF YOUR GIGER STATUES! I didn't even know they made those, sniffle, sniffle...

Only where the problem is none of the features I want are completely Neca atypical.

Lighting functions are available and interchangeable heads, too.

The flap of the arm is a Must Have, especially in size.
Looks stupid, so many characters (McFarlane AVP 7 "and 12" Original 12 "have AVP, Hot Toys) only Neca not. :-(

 

[Batfreak]

could we expect the Neca Predator 1 and 2 figures to be out around the same time as the neca T1000 figs??

 

[MaulFan]

Probably not, pretty sure the first released figures will be from the new Rodriguez movie PREDATORS, around the July release of the movie, my guess is P1 and P2 Elder in the fall sometime.

 

[The Rider]

The reason they dont make a lot of 18 inch figures is because the stores DONT HAVE ENOUGH ROOM. Simple as that.

But the stores have the room for a star Wars AT AT Walker, a big Millennium Falscon, 12 "Action Man and 3 different 18" Jason ?

Apart from that, there are large online stores like Amazon have the huge warehouse.

 

[CelticPredator]

Yeah well, they dont. They do not have room for something that does not appel to the masses.

Star Wars appels to the masses.

Michael Myers, and Jason Voorhees, do not.

 

[The Rider]

Exactly, am I willing to shell out up to $20 more for an 18" Predator, sure, but I'm also in a market of Sideshow and Cinemaquette pieces where $70 for a decent 18" Predator is a bargain, but I don't consider myself or anyone here to be a large percentage of NECA's customer base, I'd wager 50% at the most. For a lot of their market, $50 is probably pushing it for one thing. When I first got into McFarlane type figures, those were a pretty big deal, the most I could and did spend on a single item was like $50 for Gentle Giant mini busts, as I got older and worked more and increased in income I came to buy other things, but NECA's a high end collector startup product, it's a great transition from Hasbro kids toys to adult companies like Hot Toys and Sideshow and Bowen and Gentle Giant.

I know what you mean.
Where Neca also makes replicas statues and busts.
You might incidentally make T2, Alien and Predator also busts.
Of which I have spoken before.
They already have the Sculpts and could easily make busts.

Now, the irony in this case, that is the Neca Predator sculptmuch better than the Hot Toys.
Neca must therefore make use of this and a little more than usual
Would be a shame to sculpt the fine.

I just think it's also a money thing.
Hot Toys and Sidesow many is too expensive.
The money goes to if you collect more of these figures.

For many, however, is caused by a gap.
The Neca figures are too simple and Hot Toys too expensive.

A well-implemented at 18 "Predator would be as ideal.

And the big collectors who have everything to resort to such a 18" Predator also because of the size.
I know any from another forum to have already the 12" Hot Toys have, but would be still interested in a 18" Predator.

But as already seen a 18" Predator from when he was not all 3 great Faces and lack the folding function on the arm, when a figure simply bulges something.

Your arguments are all consistent.
But after before I think for a 20" Predator from Neca with these 2 features(interchangebles Heads an opening Function on Controlpanel) would really be a place on the market.

Finally Neca has also made a 22" big alien.
From the rubber volume comes out the same thing as a Predator with 3 heads.

 

[Rotfish]

Siiiiiiigggghhhhhh.........

This is advanced marketing and economics, we just like the NECA Preds so far, because they look cool .

 

[The Rider]

Probably not, pretty sure the first released figures will be from the new Rodriguez movie PREDATORS, around the July release of the movie, my guess is P1 and P2 Elder in the fall sometime.

P1 ant the T-1000s(not Chrome Version) listened on space-figuren.de for July.

 

[The Rider]

-Real netting on an 18" figure would likely be more because it's easier than sculpting and hand painting netting like the small figures, a rare moment where something better for the figure could also be cheaper.

A real netting is entirely possible and could be cheaper as you say.
In addition, it enhances the figure.
-3 heads could be too costly overall with 3 molds, we'd probably get 2 in the end, masked and unmasked roaring. Depending on how they do the dreads and things, these figures could cost a lot for all the molds and construction it takes to do them compared to a more basic design like Michael Myers.

Neca has already the 3 different Sculpts and they differ only in the face, the rest of the head is identical.
I think in the factory will be put together just the 2 parts (the front head and the head backside).

But there is a risk the 3 heads are too expensive.
One can an exclusive version with 3 heads and make something else.
And the 7 "Comic-Con exclusives Leonidas with Base and arrows.-

Electronics comes down to how costly it would be to add in. They've done them before, T2 light up eye, but doesn't mean to do it on the Predator would be cost feasible and deemed a worthwhile expense.

Neca can 3 LEDs on the Helmet for the 3 scanning lights for the Plasmacanon.
It is difficult, but make the mechanic could be similar to the 18" Endoskeletton.-Working control panel on the gauntlet would likely be deemed not worth the extra costs. I believe the 12" sculpts Tankmans produced do not feature this ability so to add it, means now sculpting the interior designs on the cover an the gauntlet side and added bits to allow the opening and closing functions.

Look the 12" McFarlane Scar Predator.
This is a easy Function.

One would not do much.
Tankman has sculptet the Controlpanerl outside already and inside there are almost 2 smooth surfaces.
The Predator symbols are only paintet.
You'd have to cut only mice on the point and the 2 tabs as holder.
Such things are toys made for years, and since it is not very expensive or complicated.
You could still do that now when Sculpt.
These may not seem like that big of a deal, but for the market NECA caters too, I'm sure a lot of it is deemed unnecessary costs. They'd likely decide they'll sell more 18" figures without those features at $50 than they would with them and costing $70 or more.

This is the Question.
But the Fans were missing a Function.
I think with my wanted Functions the 20" Predator coast 60 not 70$.
But 70 $ not bad, too.

 

[The Rider]

Yeah well, they dont. They do not have room for something that does not appel to the masses.

Star Wars appels to the masses.

Michael Myers, and Jason Voorhees, do not.

But Predator apple the masses

 

[Sabres21768]

Sabres is far from uncritical, get into any discussion of products based on the Alien. Sabres is a very passionate fan that brings to the table a lot of reference and insight into the accurracies of things.

And Sabres, I mean that as a good thing.

Thanks dude.

Yeah, I'm pretty critical.
More so of an Alien piece than a Predator piece to be sure.

But Rider, I can still appreciate a great sculpt when I see it.
I know it's not a HIGH END collectible, but to be honest...it's a better sculpt than most of those. DEFINATELY a better sculpt (on both the P1 and Elder) than Hot Toys did for FAR less money.

I appreciate the price that NECA is trying to keep these at, even after they've said they're far more expensive for them to produce than their other figures.

What you're asking NECA to do is to add more insignificant things to a great affordable piece, KNOWING that this would increase the cost for NECA and increase the cost for the casual collector.

Can some of us afford more expensive pieces, sure.
But what you're trying to do is cut out the casual consumer.
MaulFan has already explained that to you and yet you still fail to understand.

All of this is moot as I'm quite sure NECA has a specific budget for each of their lines. They've worked very hard to give us as good a figure as they can and stay within that budget.
You, as a casual, foreign consumer, cannot in any way assume you know how NECA does business. You cannot, in any way, know whether adding these things you want AND increasing the price would be a sound business decision for them. And yet, here you are...post after post trying to tell us and them that they're NOT making a sound business decision if they don't do what you ask. RI-DAMN-DICULOUS!

NECA is out to appeal to collectors with great sculpts and VERY fair prices.
That's what they've managed to do so far, and I'm quite happy to add their figures to my collection.

I can tell you this...I'd get rid of all of my Hot Toys Preds before I got rid of my NECA Preds.

...@Sabres: I'M SO JEALOUS OF YOUR GIGER STATUES! I didn't even know they made those, sniffle, sniffle...

If it's Alien...I gotsta have it.

 

[Rotfish]

I can tell you this...I'd get rid of all of my Hot Toys Preds before I got rid of my NECA Preds.

Does this mean you can sell me a Celtic or a Chopper ? Assuming you have it, of course.

 

[Sabres21768]

Does this mean you can sell me a Celtic or a Chopper ? Assuming you have it, of course.

That was a rhetorical statement...let me clarify that.

 

[The Rider]

Thanks dude.

Yeah, I'm pretty critical.
More so of an Alien piece than a Predator piece to be sure.

But Rider, I can still appreciate a great sculpt when I see it.
I know it's not a HIGH END collectible, but to be honest...it's a better sculpt than most of those. DEFINATELY a better sculpt (on both the P1 and Elder) than Hot Toys did for FAR less money.

I appreciate the price that NECA is trying to keep these at, even after they've said they're far more expensive for them to produce than their other figures.

What you're asking NECA to do is to add more insignificant things to a great affordable piece, KNOWING that this would increase the cost for NECA and increase the cost for the casual collector.

Can some of us afford more expensive pieces, sure.
But what you're trying to do is cut out the casual consumer.
MaulFan has already explained that to you and yet you still fail to understand.

All of this is moot as I'm quite sure NECA has a specific budget for each of their lines. They've worked very hard to give us as good a figure as they can and stay within that budget.
You, as a casual, foreign consumer, cannot in any way assume you know how NECA does business. You cannot, in any way, know whether adding these things you want AND increasing the price would be a sound business decision for them. And yet, here you are...post after post trying to tell us and them that they're NOT making a sound business decision if they don't do what you ask. RI-DAMN-DICULOUS!

NECA is out to appeal to collectors with great sculpts and VERY fair prices.
That's what they've managed to do so far, and I'm quite happy to add their figures to my collection.

I can tell you this...I'd get rid of all of my Hot Toys Preds before I got rid of my NECA Preds.

Elder sculpt is good.
The failure of the Elder are usually only in the paint.
But it is well known that the Elder is not final yet and Tankman it has improved things.
Now I hope the worst mistakes are improved because some threaten Likeness.
Yes, Neca is favorable.
But they make much too little.
There is so much missing.
E.g
Predator Dutch
Predator Dutch final Battle
Predator 2 City Hunter
Predator 2 City Hunter Battle Damages
Predator 2 Trophy Wall
Predator 2 Lost Predator
Aliens Alien Queen
Galen Power Loader
Terminator 1 Line
And much more.

I want no unnecessary features.
These things are important.

Or you interssieren not all Predator 3 different heads?
Someone here also want ne sound function.
And as for the Control Panel open function, which is like the 2nd Jaw in Alien.

I also hope that the Predator has move-on blades as the Wolf Predator.

If the figures are slightly more expensive, the fact is not so bad.
Neca then sold the property a little more expensive.
My god, we're talking about a few dollars more . Not 100 $, not 50$. We're talking about 2 $ more for the 7" and one-time 10-15 $ more for a large Predator.
What is most important to you than Predator ?

The fact that one to an existing 18 " Endoskeletton a 12" T-800 Arnold has made already proves that the management is weak.

I do not have to know the American market to know that this is stupid.

 

[Rotfish]

That was a rhetorical statement...let me clarify that.

I know... just wondering... lol